Has anyone compared or used both products and have a preference of one over the other?

I've been using the Klasse AIO for a while now and have been supremely happy with the results. I have been curious about the Autoglym though and with my AIO bottle getting low, I might have to give this stuff a try. It's a cleaner, polish and protectant like the AIO, but slightly milder (cleaner wise). The AIO does leave a nice bright look, but I've got a black car and think that the Autoglym might be better suited for it, giving it a darker, deeper look. I dunno though seen as I haven't tried it yet. As a side note, I use Poorboys Natty's Blue as my topper.

So what do y'all think. This Super Resin Polish pretty good stuff (better than the Klasse?) and better suited for my black Max?

Thanks for your inputs.

 

Would it be safe to assume then that nobody has tried the Autoglym in comparison to the Klasse AIO then?

 

That may be the case. I have been a fan of AIO for years. Never tried the Autoglym. Check autopia. I'm sure there are comparisons there.

 

Yup, I've looked on there and read the review the guy on Proper Auto Care gave it and I get the feeling that it might be worth a try. I was just hoping that some folks on here have tried it so I can see if it's consistent with what I've been reading. From what I gather, it has very similar properties to the AIO, just the British version of it (and perhaps a darker, deeper, less bright version) Sounds like it would make sense on my black car. I wonder if the protection is similar too? Guess I'll have to score a bottle and see for myself.

 

I use Autoglym SRP. Its a really good product, especially considering the price and ease of use. There are better products, but this being an all in one saves time. I think the best route for a black car is claybar>zaino zpc>s100 caranuba wax.

 

I usually only apply an AIO about twice a year, so it's not a part of my normal regimen, just something I like to add to give the paint a little extra protection. It also good for getting the last of the swirls out that I may have missed. It also looks good too. I was just wondering if the Autoglym was a comparable product to the Klasse and to see if it wasn't as bright as the Klasse. Essentially I'm looking for products that are better suited for darker colored cars like the Natty's Blue and Red Moose Machine Glaze are. Don't get me wrong, the Klasse is a phenomenal product, I just wanna see if the Autoglym looks better on my black car.

As far as my full detail goes, every spring and fall I:
Clay bar
Compound using Menzerna Power Gloss or Intensive Polish (depending on the condition of the paint)
Polish using their Final Polish II
Add my AIO It's been Klasse, but I'd like to try the Auto Glym stuff to see if it looks better
Wax with Natty's Blue

Depending on how gung ho I am, I will add a glaze (either Menzerna's Finishing Touch Glaze or Clearkote's Red Moose Machine glaze before I put my final layer(s) of wax on.

Between full details, I usually wash---->glaze ---->wax or just wash and wax till it's time to do a full detail job again.

 

I physically used Autoglym EGP, AIO, and Souveran on aliti19's Max and the results were literally jawdropping.

 

Hey Prinz! Nice to see a post. Hope all's well in AZ.

Now, back on topic....I ordered some SRP after first reading this thread. I had been an AIO user. I was very impressed with the Autoglym. IMO the shine was a bit deeper and wetter than with the AIO.....not much, but a bit. I wouldn't hesitate to use it again. Great product.

 

Curious: what color was aliti's car?

 

Ah very good then. Deeper and wetter is exactly what I'm looking for. With that being said, does the SRP push the Klasse AIO out of your detailing mix given its slight cosmetic edge?

 

Nah, it won't replace the AIO - for now. (I've got a lot left, and it is still an excellent product) I'll probably keep both on hand.

Alti's car is black.

 

Do you use a PC or rotary to apply the Menzerna PG and IP? I was considering purchasing both to go along with my Ultima PP+ and PGP, but I heard the PG doesn't work with a PC. I bought the UDM btw...

 

Where are you guys picking up this Autoglym? Seems like a good product to try on darker cars.

 

I'm using a PC (7336). The Power Gloss works fine with a PC, but is better suited for a rotary. With you having the UDM, the results will be even better for you than they are for me since your machine has a few more ***** than mine does. Honestly, I'd rather get good results using it with the PC or UDM and not roast my paint, than get potentially great results with it on a rotary but run the risk of burning it up.

As for the IP, the PC works great with it. Matched with an orange Lake Country pad, it seems to be a perfect match as both are rated for 2000 grit imperfections.

 

You might have to hustle, but Proper Auto Care is having a 15% sale on everything until sometime Monday, so you can get it there. I do believe it's elsewhere, but I really only shop with them and a handful of others and they are the only ones I know carry it.

http://www.properautocare.com/autsuprespol.html

 

So you think the IP is better suited for the UDM than the PG? I'm debating whether I want to risk using something as harsh as the PG, especially if it's not really suited for the PC/UDM. What do you think about getting the IP and the IP made for the hard clear coats on the new cars? This way I would have a medium polish for regular cars and for cars with the new clear coat....

I'm using the DAS pads with the UDM. I'm a little confused as to which pad I should use with each grade of polish. Should I use the harshest pad with the harshest polish, or is there another way to do it?

 

With the Porter Cable's slower speed, the Power Gloss can't quite reach its potential. The PG can be used with a PC but was made for a rotary. It's worked good for me so far though (and I have a PC). Since you have the UDM, I have a feeling that it will work even better. If it's true that the UDM can get pretty dag gum close to the rotary (without the risk), then I have a feeling that the Power Gloss could reach it's true potential with your UDM, giving you outstanding compounding abilities and still not burn your clear up or scare the beejezus out of you. Honestly, the PG isn't that scary. If I have spots the Intensive Polish can't get out, I'll have a go at it with the PG. Just as long as I don't overly beat on spots with it, I'll be just dandy, as you'll be even more dandy using it with your UDM.

Intensive Polish for hard clears: I haven't heard about that yet. Is that a new IP product? The regular ole IP I use is jackpot money with the PC/UDM. I like to follow that up with their Final Polish II.

As far as pads go, I like to match the purpose and aggressiveness of the pad to the purpose and aggressiveness of the product.

From the looks of it, it seems that your White pad is the most aggressive (which could go well with the PG), then the Orange (Intensive Polish), then the Green (insert your finishing polish, prewax cleaner or AIO here) then the Blue (for your glaze or liquid wax.)

Not knowing much about your pads or Ultima products though and not wanting to mismatch you up, perhaps you could call the place where you got your stuff and ask them for their opinions & recommendations. I like to do that and also like to look on the web to see who else sells my stuff and get their opinions too. Helps me get an educated consensus on what goes with what. Good way to dial in those sometimes elusive combos.

 

Here's the Menzerna chart
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/autog...chartpopup.jpg

So have you ever had to do an entire car with the PG, or do you usually just start with the IP unless there's a real rough spot?

 

Super Black, like Bluesbrekr's.

 

Nope. With my Max, it wasn't necessary. With most cars, it's won't be necessary.

Even if it was a real shyt box in seriously rough shape, I'd do the whole car up with the IP first to see what I had going on. If some spots need to be done again, I'd have another go at it with the IP just to see if it needed a little more work or needed something with a little more bite. If it needed a little more bite, I'd then rock it with the PG. Honestly, the only thing I really need to bust the PG out for is those lovely deep scratches and bird poop/leaf etchings. IMO, it's better to start mild then go up in aggressiveness if need be.

 

That sounds about right. BTW, are you using the US version of the IP or the German version? I want to buy some IP here:
http://detailersdomain.com/index.asp...PROD&ProdID=13

But I don't know which version it is. I heard the US version has some oils in it to allow for more work in time. Do you have any idea about this?

 

That's a good question. Our bottles do look significantly different, so one of us looks to have the German vs. US one, but I dunno which one is which. It does mention something about having Petroleum Distillate in it which acts as a lubricant (which could be the oil you're talking about) in my product description, but again, I dunno. If I were to hazard a guess though, it looks like the stuff you are checking out is the German version and mine the US, but with no descriptions on yours, I still can't be for sure.

Here is the stuff I use
http://www.properautocare.com/meninpol.html

 

I finally got to try out the UDM and Menzerna IP with a medium pad and I really liked the results. I'm just curious about the harshness of PG vs IP....is it safer to use PG for one pass, or would two passes of IP be safer? Pics coming later....

 

Don't be afraid of it, it'll be o.k, go for it. Take a few passes with the PG and see what you think. If there is some micro marring (which there could/should be because it's a compound) follow it up with the IP next, then some final polish of some sort and your good to go for your LSP. Should look great.

 

Well I only bought the IP so far...I'm gonna wait on the PG.

BTW, what does LSP mean? I see it everywhere but can't find the definition of it...

 

It's the final layer you put on your car, usually the wax. I believe it stands for Last Stage Protection

 

....or Last Step Product.

 

FYI - Autopia is having a sale on Autoglym since they are no longer going to carry it.