race worthy cars (long post)
because i feel it would be wise to know your competitor before racing...
while i admit there are plenty of flaws in the following list, it is a good rough estimate of which (newer) cars, in their stock format have the potential to spank a 5 speed maxima. all info comes from manufacturer, car & driver, road & track, etc.
after the make & model i have a range of numbers, where the first represents 0-60 times, and the second is 1/4 mile times. then comes the model years represented and finally in some cases, the msrp
any cars omitted are done so because they didn't show 0-60 times under 7 seconds. any older models that are now discontinued or have been 'slowed down' also are not on the list (yet)
NEW car comparison
2000 MAX stock 5 speed 6.6-6.8 / 15.0-15.2? (21k, 27k)
Acura: Integra type R = 6.2 / 14.8 (2000) (24.3k)
NSX = 4.8-5.8 / 13.3 14.4 (93-97) (84k)
3.2 CLtypeS auto = 6.4-6.7 /14.8-15.1 (2001) (30.3k)
Audi: A6 2.7T, 4.2 auto=6.0 / 14.7-15.1 (2000) (39k-49k)
A8 4.2 auto = 6.7-6.8 / 14.2 15 (2001) (62k)
S4 = 5.5-5.6 / 14.1-14.2 (2000) (38k)
TT 225 = 6.2-6.6 / 1.6-14.9 (2001) (37k)
BMW: All Ms
Z3 3.0s, 2.8s are close, 2.3s suck
750 V12?
540 (not 528)
330 series w/man, 328 man close, 323 no problem
Cadillac: Seville STS auto /touring auto = 6.4-6.9 /
14.7-15.9 (93-98)
Eldorado ETC auto / touring auto = 6.4-7.1 /
14.8-15.4 (93-98)
Chevrolet: Corvettte (dont bother)
Camaro Z28 = 5.2-5.5 / 13.7-14 (98-2000)
Chrysler: None
Daiwoo: None
Dodge: Viper (dont bother)
Ford: Mustang GT (a good race?)
Cobra (dont bother)
Honda: S2000 = 5.2-6.4 / 13.8-14.6 (2000) (32K)
Jaguar: Some, but not all
Lexus
anything with a 4 in it but 2000s are slower?)
GS400 auto / 430 auto = 5.8-7.5? / 14.3-15.8?
( 98-2000) (46k)
LS400 auto = 6.3 7.5 / 14.8-15.7 (97-2000) (54k)
SC400 auto = 6.8 / 15.3 should be faster (56k)
Lincoln: None
Mazda: None
Mercedes
any AMG & most anything with a 4 or better)
S-class 5 & up = 5.7-6.5 / ? (2000-2001) (75k+)
E-class 430? = 6.28.2? / 14.6-16.2? (98-2000)(52k)
All AMGs (maybe even the ML/SUV)
CLK 430 = 6.1-6.9 / ? (2000) (49k+)
CL-class = 5.9-6.1 / 14.4-14.6 (2000-01) (85k+)
Mercury: None
Mitsubishi: None
Oldsmobile: None
Plymouth: Prowler? 250hp / 2800lbs (44k)
Pontiac: Trans Am
Grand Prix GTP auto = 6.6-6.8 / 15.0-15.2 (97-00)(24k)
Porshe: 911 ( )
Boxter S (man) = 5.7-5.8 / ? (50k)
Boxter S (auto) = 6.3-6.4 / ? (50k)
Boxter (man) = 6.1-6.7 / 14.7-15.0 (40k)
Saab: 9.3(turbo & Viggen)= 6.4-7.2/ 15.0-15.3(99-00) (37k+)
9.5 (aeros w/ manual)= 6.5-6.8 / 15.2 (99-00)(40k)
Toyota: None
VW: None
Volvo: S80 T6 auto = 6.6-6.7 / 14.9-15.0 (2000) (40k)
S70 T5 = 6.4 / 14.9 (98) (33k)
C70 high p turbo(non conv)=6.4-7.6 /14.9-15.9(98-00)
while i admit there are plenty of flaws in the following list, it is a good rough estimate of which (newer) cars, in their stock format have the potential to spank a 5 speed maxima. all info comes from manufacturer, car & driver, road & track, etc.
after the make & model i have a range of numbers, where the first represents 0-60 times, and the second is 1/4 mile times. then comes the model years represented and finally in some cases, the msrp
any cars omitted are done so because they didn't show 0-60 times under 7 seconds. any older models that are now discontinued or have been 'slowed down' also are not on the list (yet)
NEW car comparison
2000 MAX stock 5 speed 6.6-6.8 / 15.0-15.2? (21k, 27k)
Acura: Integra type R = 6.2 / 14.8 (2000) (24.3k)
NSX = 4.8-5.8 / 13.3 14.4 (93-97) (84k)
3.2 CLtypeS auto = 6.4-6.7 /14.8-15.1 (2001) (30.3k)
Audi: A6 2.7T, 4.2 auto=6.0 / 14.7-15.1 (2000) (39k-49k)
A8 4.2 auto = 6.7-6.8 / 14.2 15 (2001) (62k)
S4 = 5.5-5.6 / 14.1-14.2 (2000) (38k)
TT 225 = 6.2-6.6 / 1.6-14.9 (2001) (37k)
BMW: All Ms
Z3 3.0s, 2.8s are close, 2.3s suck
750 V12?
540 (not 528)
330 series w/man, 328 man close, 323 no problem
Cadillac: Seville STS auto /touring auto = 6.4-6.9 /
14.7-15.9 (93-98)
Eldorado ETC auto / touring auto = 6.4-7.1 /
14.8-15.4 (93-98)
Chevrolet: Corvettte (dont bother)
Camaro Z28 = 5.2-5.5 / 13.7-14 (98-2000)
Chrysler: None
Daiwoo: None
Dodge: Viper (dont bother)
Ford: Mustang GT (a good race?)
Cobra (dont bother)
Honda: S2000 = 5.2-6.4 / 13.8-14.6 (2000) (32K)
Jaguar: Some, but not all
Lexus
anything with a 4 in it but 2000s are slower?)GS400 auto / 430 auto = 5.8-7.5? / 14.3-15.8?
( 98-2000) (46k)
LS400 auto = 6.3 7.5 / 14.8-15.7 (97-2000) (54k)
SC400 auto = 6.8 / 15.3 should be faster (56k)
Lincoln: None
Mazda: None
Mercedes
any AMG & most anything with a 4 or better)S-class 5 & up = 5.7-6.5 / ? (2000-2001) (75k+)
E-class 430? = 6.28.2? / 14.6-16.2? (98-2000)(52k)
All AMGs (maybe even the ML/SUV)
CLK 430 = 6.1-6.9 / ? (2000) (49k+)
CL-class = 5.9-6.1 / 14.4-14.6 (2000-01) (85k+)
Mercury: None
Mitsubishi: None
Oldsmobile: None
Plymouth: Prowler? 250hp / 2800lbs (44k)
Pontiac: Trans Am
Grand Prix GTP auto = 6.6-6.8 / 15.0-15.2 (97-00)(24k)
Porshe: 911 ( )
Boxter S (man) = 5.7-5.8 / ? (50k)
Boxter S (auto) = 6.3-6.4 / ? (50k)
Boxter (man) = 6.1-6.7 / 14.7-15.0 (40k)
Saab: 9.3(turbo & Viggen)= 6.4-7.2/ 15.0-15.3(99-00) (37k+)
9.5 (aeros w/ manual)= 6.5-6.8 / 15.2 (99-00)(40k)
Toyota: None
VW: None
Volvo: S80 T6 auto = 6.6-6.7 / 14.9-15.0 (2000) (40k)
S70 T5 = 6.4 / 14.9 (98) (33k)
C70 high p turbo(non conv)=6.4-7.6 /14.9-15.9(98-00)
Good List. Raced a guy with a Audi A8 on saturday going uphill from a stop light. His front was at my front doors when the race begun and it stayed that way. Next Light "WHAT U DO TO MAKE THAT **** SO FAST" "AN INTAKE" "THATS IT" "FOR NOW"
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Interesting...
Comparing 0-60 times for a typical street race can be tricky because some of those cars you listed have very peaky motors (read:Type R Integra), so unless that owner is willing to launch on the street at a high rpm, you could probably take him easy with 5-speed max from the typical stop light roll.
I own a 99 Mustang GT 5-spd and a 96 Maxima SE 5-spd and the Mustang will hand the Maxima its *** on a platter at any speed, so you may want to cross that one off your list as a "good race".
The VW GTI VR6 can keep up with a Maxima and usually has 0-60 times below 7 seconds. Plus the Toyota Celica GT-S is pretty fast, although most of its power is on the top end.
I own a 99 Mustang GT 5-spd and a 96 Maxima SE 5-spd and the Mustang will hand the Maxima its *** on a platter at any speed, so you may want to cross that one off your list as a "good race".
The VW GTI VR6 can keep up with a Maxima and usually has 0-60 times below 7 seconds. Plus the Toyota Celica GT-S is pretty fast, although most of its power is on the top end.
also
To my understanding cobra's and gt's arent THAT different, or am I wrong? I thought they had the same engine (4.6&5.0)
my ford dealer has a 98 Roush mustang cobra.. oh man, I'll snap some pics sometime, thing looks like a hot rod.
my ford dealer has a 98 Roush mustang cobra.. oh man, I'll snap some pics sometime, thing looks like a hot rod.
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Bingo...
don't mess the the new gen mustang GT... it's got 260 HP and a short geared 5sp.. it will kill you... (1/4 mi- @over 99mph) and the Cobra... don't even think about it... it's got 320hp.. and unless you got the SC.. maybe...it's 1/4 time is over 103mph... Reality check..
umm
bmw's are a no go - well actually depends and the 750 has a v12 -
if they have mods which most m owners do - think about it hard!! - stock m3's can do 14's but you have to launch perfectly - so depending on your mods that would be good ---- corners forget about it !!
if they have mods which most m owners do - think about it hard!! - stock m3's can do 14's but you have to launch perfectly - so depending on your mods that would be good ---- corners forget about it !!
Originally posted by tb420
because i feel it would be wise to know your competitor before racing...
while i admit there are plenty of flaws in the following list, it is a good rough estimate of which (newer) cars, in their stock format have the potential to spank a 5 speed maxima. all info comes from manufacturer, car & driver, road & track, etc.
after the make & model i have a range of numbers, where the first represents 0-60 times, and the second is 1/4 mile times. then comes the model years represented and finally in some cases, the msrp
any cars omitted are done so because they didn't show 0-60 times under 7 seconds. any older models that are now discontinued or have been 'slowed down' also are not on the list (yet)
NEW car comparison
2000 MAX stock 5 speed 6.6-6.8 / 15.0-15.2? (21k, 27k)
Acura: Integra type R = 6.2 / 14.8 (2000) (24.3k)
NSX = 4.8-5.8 / 13.3 14.4 (93-97) (84k)
3.2 CLtypeS auto = 6.4-6.7 /14.8-15.1 (2001) (30.3k)
Audi: A6 2.7T, 4.2 auto=6.0 / 14.7-15.1 (2000) (39k-49k)
A8 4.2 auto = 6.7-6.8 / 14.2 15 (2001) (62k)
S4 = 5.5-5.6 / 14.1-14.2 (2000) (38k)
TT 225 = 6.2-6.6 / 1.6-14.9 (2001) (37k)
BMW: All Ms
Z3 3.0s, 2.8s are close, 2.3s suck
750 V12?
540 (not 528)
330 series w/man, 328 man close, 323 no problem
Cadillac: Seville STS auto /touring auto = 6.4-6.9 /
14.7-15.9 (93-98)
Eldorado ETC auto / touring auto = 6.4-7.1 /
14.8-15.4 (93-98)
Chevrolet: Corvettte (dont bother)
Camaro Z28 = 5.2-5.5 / 13.7-14 (98-2000)
Chrysler: None
Daiwoo: None
Dodge: Viper (dont bother)
Ford: Mustang GT (a good race?)
Cobra (dont bother)
Honda: S2000 = 5.2-6.4 / 13.8-14.6 (2000) (32K)
Jaguar: Some, but not all
Lexus
anything with a 4 in it but 2000s are slower?)
GS400 auto / 430 auto = 5.8-7.5? / 14.3-15.8?
( 98-2000) (46k)
LS400 auto = 6.3 7.5 / 14.8-15.7 (97-2000) (54k)
SC400 auto = 6.8 / 15.3 should be faster (56k)
Lincoln: None
Mazda: None
Mercedes
any AMG & most anything with a 4 or better)
S-class 5 & up = 5.7-6.5 / ? (2000-2001) (75k+)
E-class 430? = 6.28.2? / 14.6-16.2? (98-2000)(52k)
All AMGs (maybe even the ML/SUV)
CLK 430 = 6.1-6.9 / ? (2000) (49k+)
CL-class = 5.9-6.1 / 14.4-14.6 (2000-01) (85k+)
Mercury: None
Mitsubishi: None
Oldsmobile: None
Plymouth: Prowler? 250hp / 2800lbs (44k)
Pontiac: Trans Am
Grand Prix GTP auto = 6.6-6.8 / 15.0-15.2 (97-00)(24k)
Porshe: 911 ( )
Boxter S (man) = 5.7-5.8 / ? (50k)
Boxter S (auto) = 6.3-6.4 / ? (50k)
Boxter (man) = 6.1-6.7 / 14.7-15.0 (40k)
Saab: 9.3(turbo & Viggen)= 6.4-7.2/ 15.0-15.3(99-00) (37k+)
9.5 (aeros w/ manual)= 6.5-6.8 / 15.2 (99-00)(40k)
Toyota: None
VW: None
Volvo: S80 T6 auto = 6.6-6.7 / 14.9-15.0 (2000) (40k)
S70 T5 = 6.4 / 14.9 (98) (33k)
C70 high p turbo(non conv)=6.4-7.6 /14.9-15.9(98-00)
because i feel it would be wise to know your competitor before racing...
while i admit there are plenty of flaws in the following list, it is a good rough estimate of which (newer) cars, in their stock format have the potential to spank a 5 speed maxima. all info comes from manufacturer, car & driver, road & track, etc.
after the make & model i have a range of numbers, where the first represents 0-60 times, and the second is 1/4 mile times. then comes the model years represented and finally in some cases, the msrp
any cars omitted are done so because they didn't show 0-60 times under 7 seconds. any older models that are now discontinued or have been 'slowed down' also are not on the list (yet)
NEW car comparison
2000 MAX stock 5 speed 6.6-6.8 / 15.0-15.2? (21k, 27k)
Acura: Integra type R = 6.2 / 14.8 (2000) (24.3k)
NSX = 4.8-5.8 / 13.3 14.4 (93-97) (84k)
3.2 CLtypeS auto = 6.4-6.7 /14.8-15.1 (2001) (30.3k)
Audi: A6 2.7T, 4.2 auto=6.0 / 14.7-15.1 (2000) (39k-49k)
A8 4.2 auto = 6.7-6.8 / 14.2 15 (2001) (62k)
S4 = 5.5-5.6 / 14.1-14.2 (2000) (38k)
TT 225 = 6.2-6.6 / 1.6-14.9 (2001) (37k)
BMW: All Ms
Z3 3.0s, 2.8s are close, 2.3s suck
750 V12?
540 (not 528)
330 series w/man, 328 man close, 323 no problem
Cadillac: Seville STS auto /touring auto = 6.4-6.9 /
14.7-15.9 (93-98)
Eldorado ETC auto / touring auto = 6.4-7.1 /
14.8-15.4 (93-98)
Chevrolet: Corvettte (dont bother)
Camaro Z28 = 5.2-5.5 / 13.7-14 (98-2000)
Chrysler: None
Daiwoo: None
Dodge: Viper (dont bother)
Ford: Mustang GT (a good race?)
Cobra (dont bother)
Honda: S2000 = 5.2-6.4 / 13.8-14.6 (2000) (32K)
Jaguar: Some, but not all
Lexus
anything with a 4 in it but 2000s are slower?)GS400 auto / 430 auto = 5.8-7.5? / 14.3-15.8?
( 98-2000) (46k)
LS400 auto = 6.3 7.5 / 14.8-15.7 (97-2000) (54k)
SC400 auto = 6.8 / 15.3 should be faster (56k)
Lincoln: None
Mazda: None
Mercedes
any AMG & most anything with a 4 or better)S-class 5 & up = 5.7-6.5 / ? (2000-2001) (75k+)
E-class 430? = 6.28.2? / 14.6-16.2? (98-2000)(52k)
All AMGs (maybe even the ML/SUV)
CLK 430 = 6.1-6.9 / ? (2000) (49k+)
CL-class = 5.9-6.1 / 14.4-14.6 (2000-01) (85k+)
Mercury: None
Mitsubishi: None
Oldsmobile: None
Plymouth: Prowler? 250hp / 2800lbs (44k)
Pontiac: Trans Am
Grand Prix GTP auto = 6.6-6.8 / 15.0-15.2 (97-00)(24k)
Porshe: 911 ( )
Boxter S (man) = 5.7-5.8 / ? (50k)
Boxter S (auto) = 6.3-6.4 / ? (50k)
Boxter (man) = 6.1-6.7 / 14.7-15.0 (40k)
Saab: 9.3(turbo & Viggen)= 6.4-7.2/ 15.0-15.3(99-00) (37k+)
9.5 (aeros w/ manual)= 6.5-6.8 / 15.2 (99-00)(40k)
Toyota: None
VW: None
Volvo: S80 T6 auto = 6.6-6.7 / 14.9-15.0 (2000) (40k)
S70 T5 = 6.4 / 14.9 (98) (33k)
C70 high p turbo(non conv)=6.4-7.6 /14.9-15.9(98-00)
i think the VW Passat should be added, because most maximas are not 5 speeds, but i dont know the times, but i know they're close.
Toyota Celica GTS 6.8 1/4?that can be found out easily.
Lincoln LS V8?
You forgot the Z8
. And a few more Audis:
S6 (fuhgetaboutit, 340hp V-8)
S8 (Ever see Ronin?
don't even try it)
A8 6.0 (420hp W-12 0_0 )
Yes...that's a W. Two VR6's joined sideways.
These'll all be in the U.S. in a few months...watch out for em!
I saw a Z8 around here last week. Absolutely stunning.
. And a few more Audis:S6 (fuhgetaboutit, 340hp V-8)
S8 (Ever see Ronin?
don't even try it)A8 6.0 (420hp W-12 0_0 )
Yes...that's a W. Two VR6's joined sideways.
These'll all be in the U.S. in a few months...watch out for em!
I saw a Z8 around here last week. Absolutely stunning.
Might as well list everything that's faster than us.
And if you race an LS1 while your car is still NA, either you're much faster than I think you are or you like losing.
BTW, Acura 3.2TL (2000+) should be competitive with near stock Auto Maximas, but that really depends-- some auto Maxima owners have slaughtered 3.2TL's, yet I know my dad's 3.2TL is definitely faster than my uncle's 2001 I30t.
And if you race an LS1 while your car is still NA, either you're much faster than I think you are or you like losing.

BTW, Acura 3.2TL (2000+) should be competitive with near stock Auto Maximas, but that really depends-- some auto Maxima owners have slaughtered 3.2TL's, yet I know my dad's 3.2TL is definitely faster than my uncle's 2001 I30t.
That's quite a list
Hey, I don't feel ashamed to losing to a single car on that list...and considering ours was cheaper than 95% of them, that's even better. BTW, you should take the Grand Prix GTP off the list...I made one my biatch the other day.
steveyang....
hey mine is a 2000 SE 5 Speed with the 17" rims, and I have the stillen intake. you will probably have some trouble with the GTP with your auto. but I'd never turn down a race, so give em hell....the pontiac will probably blow up or fall apart halfway down the strip anyways so don't worry about it if he's ahead. you can definetly take him in top speed though...I've had mine above 145 mph. hee hee. it's fun passing other cars as fast as they pass the scenery.
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