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Old Oct 23, 2000 | 09:42 AM
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because i feel it would be wise to know your competitor before racing...

while i admit there are plenty of flaws in the following list, it is a good rough estimate of which (newer) cars, in their stock format have the potential to spank a 5 speed maxima. all info comes from manufacturer, car & driver, road & track, etc.

after the make & model i have a range of numbers, where the first represents 0-60 times, and the second is 1/4 mile times. then comes the model years represented and finally in some cases, the msrp

any cars omitted are done so because they didn't show 0-60 times under 7 seconds. any older models that are now discontinued or have been 'slowed down' also are not on the list (yet)




NEW car comparison
2000 MAX stock 5 speed 6.6-6.8 / 15.0-15.2? (21k, 27k)

Acura: Integra type R = 6.2 / 14.8 (2000) (24.3k)
NSX = 4.8-5.8 / 13.3 – 14.4 (93-97) (84k)
3.2 CLtypeS auto = 6.4-6.7 /14.8-15.1 (2001) (30.3k)

Audi: A6 2.7T, 4.2 auto=6.0 / 14.7-15.1 (2000) (39k-49k)
A8 4.2 auto = 6.7-6.8 / 14.2 – 15 (2001) (62k)
S4 = 5.5-5.6 / 14.1-14.2 (2000) (38k)
TT 225 = 6.2-6.6 / 1.6-14.9 (2001) (37k)

BMW: All M’s
Z3 3.0’s, 2.8’s are close, 2.3’s suck
750 V12?
540 (not 528)
330 series w/man, 328 man close, 323 no problem

Cadillac: Seville STS auto /touring auto = 6.4-6.9 /
14.7-15.9 (93-98)
Eldorado ETC auto / touring auto = 6.4-7.1 /
14.8-15.4 (93-98)

Chevrolet: Corvettte (dont bother)
Camaro Z28 = 5.2-5.5 / 13.7-14 (98-2000)

Chrysler: None

Daiwoo: None

Dodge: Viper (dont bother)

Ford: Mustang GT (a good race?)
Cobra (dont bother)

Honda: S2000 = 5.2-6.4 / 13.8-14.6 (2000) (32K)

Jaguar: Some, but not all

Lexusanything with a ‘4’ in it – but 2000’s are slower?)
GS400 auto / 430 auto = 5.8-7.5? / 14.3-15.8?
( 98-2000) (46k)
LS400 auto = 6.3 –7.5 / 14.8-15.7 (97-2000) (54k)
SC400 auto = 6.8 / 15.3 – should be faster (56k)

Lincoln: None

Mazda: None

Mercedesany AMG & most anything with a ‘4’ or better)
S-class – 5 & up = 5.7-6.5 / ? (2000-2001) (75k+)
E-class 430? = 6.2–8.2? / 14.6-16.2? (98-2000)(52k)
All AMG’s (maybe even the ML/SUV)
CLK 430 = 6.1-6.9 / ? (2000) (49k+)
CL-class = 5.9-6.1 / 14.4-14.6 (2000-01) (85k+)

Mercury: None

Mitsubishi: None

Oldsmobile: None

Plymouth: Prowler? 250hp / 2800lbs (44k)

Pontiac: Trans Am
Grand Prix GTP auto = 6.6-6.8 / 15.0-15.2 (97-00)(24k)

Porshe: 911 (…)
Boxter S (man) = 5.7-5.8 / ? (50k)
Boxter S (auto) = 6.3-6.4 / ? (50k)
Boxter (man) = 6.1-6.7 / 14.7-15.0 (40k)

Saab: 9.3(turbo & Viggen)= 6.4-7.2/ 15.0-15.3(99-00) (37k+)
9.5 (aero’s w/ manual)= 6.5-6.8 / 15.2 (99-00)(40k)

Toyota: None

VW: None

Volvo: S80 T6 auto = 6.6-6.7 / 14.9-15.0 (2000) (40k)
S70 T5 = 6.4 / 14.9 (98) (33k)
C70 high p turbo(non conv)=6.4-7.6 /14.9-15.9(98-00)



Old Oct 23, 2000 | 11:01 AM
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Good List. Raced a guy with a Audi A8 on saturday going uphill from a stop light. His front was at my front doors when the race begun and it stayed that way. Next Light "WHAT U DO TO MAKE THAT **** SO FAST" "AN INTAKE" "THATS IT" "FOR NOW"
Old Oct 23, 2000 | 11:02 AM
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Interesting...

Comparing 0-60 times for a typical street race can be tricky because some of those cars you listed have very peaky motors (read:Type R Integra), so unless that owner is willing to launch on the street at a high rpm, you could probably take him easy with 5-speed max from the typical stop light roll.

I own a 99 Mustang GT 5-spd and a 96 Maxima SE 5-spd and the Mustang will hand the Maxima its *** on a platter at any speed, so you may want to cross that one off your list as a "good race".

The VW GTI VR6 can keep up with a Maxima and usually has 0-60 times below 7 seconds. Plus the Toyota Celica GT-S is pretty fast, although most of its power is on the top end.
Old Oct 23, 2000 | 12:07 PM
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also

To my understanding cobra's and gt's arent THAT different, or am I wrong? I thought they had the same engine (4.6&5.0)
my ford dealer has a 98 Roush mustang cobra.. oh man, I'll snap some pics sometime, thing looks like a hot rod.
Old Oct 23, 2000 | 02:24 PM
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Bingo...

don't mess the the new gen mustang GT... it's got 260 HP and a short geared 5sp.. it will kill you... (1/4 mi- @over 99mph) and the Cobra... don't even think about it... it's got 320hp.. and unless you got the SC.. maybe...it's 1/4 time is over 103mph... Reality check..

Old Oct 23, 2000 | 02:38 PM
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umm

bmw's are a no go - well actually depends and the 750 has a v12 -
if they have mods which most m owners do - think about it hard!! - stock m3's can do 14's but you have to launch perfectly - so depending on your mods that would be good ---- corners forget about it !!
Old Oct 23, 2000 | 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by tb420
because i feel it would be wise to know your competitor before racing...

while i admit there are plenty of flaws in the following list, it is a good rough estimate of which (newer) cars, in their stock format have the potential to spank a 5 speed maxima. all info comes from manufacturer, car & driver, road & track, etc.

after the make & model i have a range of numbers, where the first represents 0-60 times, and the second is 1/4 mile times. then comes the model years represented and finally in some cases, the msrp

any cars omitted are done so because they didn't show 0-60 times under 7 seconds. any older models that are now discontinued or have been 'slowed down' also are not on the list (yet)




NEW car comparison
2000 MAX stock 5 speed 6.6-6.8 / 15.0-15.2? (21k, 27k)

Acura: Integra type R = 6.2 / 14.8 (2000) (24.3k)
NSX = 4.8-5.8 / 13.3 – 14.4 (93-97) (84k)
3.2 CLtypeS auto = 6.4-6.7 /14.8-15.1 (2001) (30.3k)

Audi: A6 2.7T, 4.2 auto=6.0 / 14.7-15.1 (2000) (39k-49k)
A8 4.2 auto = 6.7-6.8 / 14.2 – 15 (2001) (62k)
S4 = 5.5-5.6 / 14.1-14.2 (2000) (38k)
TT 225 = 6.2-6.6 / 1.6-14.9 (2001) (37k)

BMW: All M’s
Z3 3.0’s, 2.8’s are close, 2.3’s suck
750 V12?
540 (not 528)
330 series w/man, 328 man close, 323 no problem

Cadillac: Seville STS auto /touring auto = 6.4-6.9 /
14.7-15.9 (93-98)
Eldorado ETC auto / touring auto = 6.4-7.1 /
14.8-15.4 (93-98)

Chevrolet: Corvettte (dont bother)
Camaro Z28 = 5.2-5.5 / 13.7-14 (98-2000)

Chrysler: None

Daiwoo: None

Dodge: Viper (dont bother)

Ford: Mustang GT (a good race?)
Cobra (dont bother)

Honda: S2000 = 5.2-6.4 / 13.8-14.6 (2000) (32K)

Jaguar: Some, but not all

Lexusanything with a ‘4’ in it – but 2000’s are slower?)
GS400 auto / 430 auto = 5.8-7.5? / 14.3-15.8?
( 98-2000) (46k)
LS400 auto = 6.3 –7.5 / 14.8-15.7 (97-2000) (54k)
SC400 auto = 6.8 / 15.3 – should be faster (56k)

Lincoln: None

Mazda: None

Mercedesany AMG & most anything with a ‘4’ or better)
S-class – 5 & up = 5.7-6.5 / ? (2000-2001) (75k+)
E-class 430? = 6.2–8.2? / 14.6-16.2? (98-2000)(52k)
All AMG’s (maybe even the ML/SUV)
CLK 430 = 6.1-6.9 / ? (2000) (49k+)
CL-class = 5.9-6.1 / 14.4-14.6 (2000-01) (85k+)

Mercury: None

Mitsubishi: None

Oldsmobile: None

Plymouth: Prowler? 250hp / 2800lbs (44k)

Pontiac: Trans Am
Grand Prix GTP auto = 6.6-6.8 / 15.0-15.2 (97-00)(24k)

Porshe: 911 (…)
Boxter S (man) = 5.7-5.8 / ? (50k)
Boxter S (auto) = 6.3-6.4 / ? (50k)
Boxter (man) = 6.1-6.7 / 14.7-15.0 (40k)

Saab: 9.3(turbo & Viggen)= 6.4-7.2/ 15.0-15.3(99-00) (37k+)
9.5 (aero’s w/ manual)= 6.5-6.8 / 15.2 (99-00)(40k)

Toyota: None

VW: None

Volvo: S80 T6 auto = 6.6-6.7 / 14.9-15.0 (2000) (40k)
S70 T5 = 6.4 / 14.9 (98) (33k)
C70 high p turbo(non conv)=6.4-7.6 /14.9-15.9(98-00)



uh your forgetting some...
i think the VW Passat should be added, because most maximas are not 5 speeds, but i dont know the times, but i know they're close.
Toyota Celica GTS 6.8 1/4?that can be found out easily.
Lincoln LS V8?
Old Oct 23, 2000 | 05:49 PM
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Lincoln LS-8 ???
Old Oct 23, 2000 | 07:26 PM
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You forgot the Z8 . And a few more Audis:

S6 (fuhgetaboutit, 340hp V-8)
S8 (Ever see Ronin? don't even try it)
A8 6.0 (420hp W-12 0_0 )
Yes...that's a W. Two VR6's joined sideways.
These'll all be in the U.S. in a few months...watch out for em!

I saw a Z8 around here last week. Absolutely stunning.
Old Oct 24, 2000 | 06:09 PM
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Might as well list everything that's faster than us.

And if you race an LS1 while your car is still NA, either you're much faster than I think you are or you like losing.

BTW, Acura 3.2TL (2000+) should be competitive with near stock Auto Maximas, but that really depends-- some auto Maxima owners have slaughtered 3.2TL's, yet I know my dad's 3.2TL is definitely faster than my uncle's 2001 I30t.
Old Oct 26, 2000 | 06:23 PM
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That's quite a list

Hey, I don't feel ashamed to losing to a single car on that list...and considering ours was cheaper than 95% of them, that's even better. BTW, you should take the Grand Prix GTP off the list...I made one my biatch the other day.
Old Oct 26, 2000 | 07:03 PM
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whats up hawkdog. is your car an auto? how badly did you beat him? hook me up with some details. my friend has a 2k gtp and im gonna race hom soon but i wanna kno what to expect. btw mine is an auto 2k se PEAAAAACCCEEEE
Old Oct 29, 2000 | 05:42 PM
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Knock it off

Can we stop talking about this stuff. I prefer to live under the illusion that with my trusty stillen intake that my car could smoke anything on the road. I don't like hearing about cars that are faster than mine. Can you me?
Old Oct 29, 2000 | 10:07 PM
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steveyang....

hey mine is a 2000 SE 5 Speed with the 17" rims, and I have the stillen intake. you will probably have some trouble with the GTP with your auto. but I'd never turn down a race, so give em hell....the pontiac will probably blow up or fall apart halfway down the strip anyways so don't worry about it if he's ahead. you can definetly take him in top speed though...I've had mine above 145 mph. hee hee. it's fun passing other cars as fast as they pass the scenery.
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