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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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No crank/no start help!

I have a No start/NO crank issue on a 95 Maxima GXE, This first started about two months ago, the car is my wifes car, anyways the car had been having some trouble starting, especially during cold starts it would take several times to crank over, i attributed this to a faulty ignition switch, well one day she came home from work, and we were about to go to the store when we got in it wouldnt crank, it wouldnt make any attempt at all to start, so i figured the ignition switch gave out. I went and got the replacement part, replaced it and it did nothing, it was late at night so out of frustration i gave up on it, the next morning i went out and it started right up. Well it continued later that night with the same problem. All the interior lights come on and everything works fine, but there is no attempt to crank, so then i decided to pull the starter and have the starter/solenoid checked. It checked out fine, so then i had the battery checked and it checked out fine. And after re-installing the starter/battery the problem just seemed to go away, well then yesterday she calls and it does the same thing, its been about 2 months since the first occurance, and im puzzled as to what it is. the ignition switch is new, starter and battery checked fine, there doesnt seem to be any clicking at the solenoid switch area, but there is a click in the dash. Ive searched and most everytime it is believed to be the ignition switch as the culprit, but it was replaced, now for some reason after the car sits overnight it starts right up. Well it did, now it wont start at all

So to sum it up, im having a no start/ no crank, intermittently, it will start after sitting over night, heat doesnt appear to be any factor on it. I dont believe it is the neutral safety switch, no codes. Car is an automatic. No click at the solenoid switch when problem is occuring. Battery is at 12.6. All interior lights work, no CEL or anything, car runs great all other times.

Ive done some searching, most all threads with similar problems were the ignition switch, but we did replace that, and now it wont start at anytime, all interior lights come on and everything works but no start at all, just a click at the dash but never any further than that.
Old Sep 28, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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im starting to think inhibitor, or neutral safety switch, or even something as simple as needing new terminals, the terminals are originals. not much corrosion, lot of acid though. weak battery?
Old Sep 28, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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When you turn the key on, do all the idiot lights on the dash go on and nothing happens? That's what I've been getting for a while now. But if I keep trying, I can get it to start, every time, although it may take 10 or 15 tries. This only happens once in a while--most of the time it fires right up.

I've replaced the starter, the battery, and the ignition switch, and cleaned the battery cable ground contacts. After I replaced the battery, it was fine for a while. Then we were away for a week, and when we came back the problem started again. My guess is that the current is dropping just below the level needed to start, and then comes back up for some reason. (I've also tried shifting into neutral, but it won't always start when I do that, so I don't think it's the neutral safety switch.)

I've tried adding another ground wire to the starter, but that didn't help. The only thing I have left to try is to do a full re-ground (with wires running all over the engine compartment). There are enough threads here suggesting grounding is a problem to make me think that might be it. If it isn't, I'm at a loss...
Old Sep 28, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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yeah all the lights come on, and everything works fine in the car, when i try to start it they all stay on, its not as if they are losing power at that point like the battery is dead, i actually just got it to start, i got under the hood and just played with some of the grounds and the connections. and i got back in and it started, i wish i could have pinpointed which one it it was. but at least i have isolated that it isnt a faulty part.
Old Sep 28, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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sound like you have some bad grounds or the negative battery post may be bad....try cleaning and tightening the grounds on the car and see if it helps...
Old Sep 28, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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Took me 45 mins to redo, completely, both power and ground wires on the battery. Maybe 10$.
Old Sep 28, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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yeah its starting to seem like a ground or battery terminal, it did it again not 5 minutes after it started. gonna try that thanks guys
Old Sep 28, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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alright i tracked it down, a wire going from the solenoid into the starter motor is exposed. i can actually make the car start, and not start now lol. So going to try to take care of that. Thanks guys.
Old Sep 28, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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make sure you clean the terminals on the battery.
i had a similar problem and after re wiring everything, i sandpapered the terminals only to find that fixed the prob.
don't make my mistake...
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 300zx32tt91
yeah all the lights come on, and everything works fine in the car, when i try to start it they all stay on, its not as if they are losing power at that point like the battery is dead, i actually just got it to start, i got under the hood and just played with some of the grounds and the connections. and i got back in and it started, i wish i could have pinpointed which one it it was. but at least i have isolated that it isnt a faulty part.
Just last week, I was in the mountains (8500 ft.) and I tried to start my car. When I turned the key on, my car had all of the dash lights come on, but starting didn't happen. I thought the bumpy road had loosened the connection on the battery terminals. I took the positive terminal off of the battery for about 5 seconds, put it back on, and it started just fine. Just yesterday, the same thing happened, so I repeated my steps from Tuesday... and nuthin. So then I disconnected both positive and negative from the battery for about two minutes, put'em back, and viola! It worked fine. I thought it was the battery, so I bought a new one. So anyways, this morning... Yeah, same thing! I screwed around with my shifter, going from park, all the way down to first, and then into neutral and it started fine. I know that I have a bad revolution sensor circuit, an oxygen sensor that needs replaced, and a brand-spankin' new battery. Could it be possible that the faulty tranny speed sensor is screwing up the codes in the ECU, not recognizing that the car is in park? The car behaves like it would if you were trying to start it while is was in drive or reverse. Weird and frustrating... Any help would be appreciated. Thanx!
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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There is a sensor in the center console used only by the starting system to tell it when it is in p/n, it get's dirty and nasty and sticks and only requires cleaning.........from what I hear...........
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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Goobergo, it sounds like you have the same problem. You try things until something works, then you try the same thing the next time and it doesn't. And it doesn't happen often enough to really track it down.

I just pulled both relays that seemed related to the starter this weekend, and shot a bunch of contact cleaner in them. The starter seemed to crank faster, but that could be my imagination. It may be a while before I know if it did any good (or I may find out it didn't the next time I crank it). It that doesn't work, I think I'll have to re-ground everything, although I may try cleaning the neutral safety switch first...
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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This certainly sounds like a bad ground to me. Check both of your cables, positive and negative to make sure they are tight from their battery to their destination. You might also want to check the solonoid on the starter.
Old Oct 2, 2007 | 06:49 AM
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I'd listen to KRRZ350. If it doesn't crank and shiftint out and than back in P helps it, than it's defenitly P/N switch.
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