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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 12:05 AM
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Sometimes car wont go into 1 or R?

I've been having a problem for about 8-9 months where my car sometimes wouldnt go into R, and i'd have to lift the clutch and repress it down to get it into the gear. Now im having the same problem with 1st and sometimes i even have to try the pedal like 2-3 times before it goes in. Any ideas, i was thinking clutch is gone as its slipping a bit, but i wasnt sure if a clutch would do that? Then again i havent been driving long enough to know what a bad clutches symtoms are.

Oh yeh, meant to mention, both CV's are torn for like a year just havent had money to replace em with Raxles. I havent heard any clicking or anything related to them though.

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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 97maximaman
I've been having a problem for about 8-9 months where my car sometimes wouldnt go into R, and i'd have to lift the clutch and repress it down to get it into the gear.
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Now im having the same problem with 1st and sometimes i even have to try the pedal like 2-3 times before it goes in. Any ideas, i was thinking clutch is gone as its slipping a bit, but i wasnt sure if a clutch would do that?
Yes, a bad clutch will do that.
Then again i havent been driving long enough to know what a bad clutches symtoms are.

Oh yeh, meant to mention, both CV's are torn for like a year just havent had money to replace em with Raxles. I havent heard any clicking or anything related to them though.
Old Jan 5, 2008 | 08:00 AM
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Are you talking about shifting into 1st gear from a red light or downshifting from second, lets say? From a stop, I always found it easier to slap it into 2nd before engaging 1st gear. For some reason it always went in smoother. Later.
Old Jan 5, 2008 | 08:07 AM
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Yeah ive had the issue sometimes. It kinda half goes into first, just like what it does in second, and if your not aware its not fully engaged you hear a nice grinding and you dont go anywhere.

try a different fluid, i never noticed the problem when i was running dino oil once i put in my MT90 i started having these little issues.

Yeah i always pop it into 2nd then go into first at a stop.
Old Jan 5, 2008 | 08:12 AM
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If' he's doing it multipe times I would assume he means from a stop. You would need to have that clutch replaced and the problem would dissappear, 99%.
Old Jan 5, 2008 | 06:57 PM
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i have the same problem too with 2nd and reverse. For reverse, i sink clutch and try reverse it stops just before reverse, if i try to lift clutch, i either get grinding or go nowhere at all. so i gotta sink again or twice then it goes in. could it be trans problem or is it gear oil needed.?
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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it's common for 4th gens with the MT boxes. my friend and i both have trouble going into 1st sometimes and he has a brand new clutch and a fairly new tranny. that goes the same for R. i sometimes have to roll a little when trying to go into R as if the gear is stuck.
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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1st and R r not the friendliest gears for me either. Any incline in the road R wont go in so easy, eitheri have to let the car roll forward or back in neutral to put in R. 1st usally is fine for me of the line, but downshifting into 1st usally painful so i dont.
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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I'd suspect the slave cylinder if anything ... or master, check them - are you loosing fluid, is the resivour full?

1st and R are on seperate shift rods and for that matter, they are on different gear stacks in the trans. As for the clutch, there would be other symptoms to that (more than likely). I really think it's gonna turn out to be a slave or master issue.

Just my guess.
Old Jan 7, 2008 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by JtzMax
I'd suspect the slave cylinder if anything ... or master, check them - are you loosing fluid, is the resivour full?

1st and R are on seperate shift rods and for that matter, they are on different gear stacks in the trans. As for the clutch, there would be other symptoms to that (more than likely). I really think it's gonna turn out to be a slave or master issue.

Just my guess.
you would be correct my friend i just had to bring my car to the tranny shop and the master cylinder was done,plus needed new synchros(sp?)I get it back on thursday so lets see if it all good now.

My car wasent goin into 1st really at all and reverse was no better half the time.So i will get back to the OP thursday and let him know if its all better
Old Jan 7, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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Actually im more suspecting my clutch because the pedal is litterally stuck to the floor, catch point is about 1-2 inches up, its terrible. And it pretty much slips in every gear except 5th. Probably did too many burnouts in my younger years[over the last two years], and now im paying the price. And i had master and slvae cylinders replaced by nissan last year because they failed on way up to see my sis up at Yale. That was fun, you ever drive 3 hours with no clutch? I had to learn real quick how to shift with no clutch.
Old Jan 7, 2008 | 01:23 PM
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have you ever tried changing the MT fluid? most people have gl-5 in their trannies cause its hard to find gl-4 but gl-4 is what you need. if you have gl-5 in there this is a common problem cause the incorrect viscousity of gl-5 causes the synchros to not mesh together completely aligned.

but i also agree a bad clutch can cause that too
Old Jan 7, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by black_maxed95
have you ever tried changing the MT fluid? most people have gl-5 in their trannies cause its hard to find gl-4 but gl-4 is what you need. if you have gl-5 in there this is a common problem cause the incorrect viscousity of gl-5 causes the synchros to not mesh together completely aligned.

but i also agree a bad clutch can cause that too
A gl-5 might tend to grind on fast shifts more than a gl-4, but it would not prevent you from getting into gear.

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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 97maximaman
Actually im more suspecting my clutch because the pedal is litterally stuck to the floor, catch point is about 1-2 inches up, its terrible. And it pretty much slips in every gear except 5th.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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Mate ... if your clutch peddal is on the floor, you have no clutch pressure (i.e. bad slave or master!) and that is why your release is 1-2" off the floor. If your clutch was bad, you would let the clutch out and not move. (or slip going up hills - in other words, your RPMs would raise, whithout giving you more acceleration / pick up). To test the clutch, stop on a hill, take off in 2nd and if you take off ok, your clutch is ok, if you see the revs raise, but you don't move - you have a slipping clutch.
Old Jan 7, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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put it into a higher gear like 3(if 2nd is not working) and it should go in smoother. Having trouble putting it into R is normal because that gear is not used nearly as often but i just **** into a higher gear then R and im fine.
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