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Old May 1, 2008 | 10:12 PM
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cold air intakes? does it really matter?

http://search.ebay.com/search/search...fsoo%3D2&fgtp=

theres the link,

is the ANY difference in $20 ebay cold air intakes and stillen $200 intakes??????

is there power differences?
gas milage differences?
any differences?

im thinkin about buying one but dont wanna regret putting out the 50 bucks

thanks guys!

(fyi- i have a 95 se, if that helps at all)
Old May 2, 2008 | 03:45 AM
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the org members might tell you other wise, but i have seen no difference in a cheapo intake and a $300 one. so i just made one. check out my cardomain link below and look at my engine bay shots. pm w/ questions
Old May 2, 2008 | 05:23 AM
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You pay for what you get...

For stuff like intakes it doesn't really matter...but exhaust work and most other mods, I would rather go with a brand name over a no-name anyday of the week.
Old May 2, 2008 | 05:24 AM
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You might wanna do a search before you even pay the $20.00.

I've read quite a number of posts that indicate that the changing out of the stock box and tube provides absolutely no benefit other than perhaps they look a little neater.
Old May 2, 2008 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbobink
You might wanna do a search before you even pay the $20.00.

I've read quite a number of posts that indicate that the changing out of the stock box and tube provides absolutely no benefit other than perhaps they look a little neater.
And sound louder.

Aftermarket Intakes = Waste of $$$
Old May 2, 2008 | 08:43 AM
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Be careful. In looking at some of these they are not true cold air intakes. The cheap ones, including short ram, are pointless. They suck air from the warm engine bay. Second, many of the longer ones relocate the intake to behind the radiator, which has warm air as well. The ones that you are spending the money on are relocating to the fender, where there truly is cold air. These tend to cost more money. You may be able to find a true cold air intakes. The last time I looked this is what I found. Other then that, pipe is pipe.
Old May 2, 2008 | 08:47 AM
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Depending on what your talking about, it can matter, yes. As has already been stated, things like exhaust components are best bought brand name. Intakes don't matter though (and I'd keep stock anyway). Things like strut bars are also fine to get off of eBay. Suspension is also something you need to buy brand name.

So for important stuff...yes. Everything else, no. Oh, and KEEP YOUR STOCK INTAKE
Old May 2, 2008 | 08:49 AM
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Those cheap $20 intakes from ebay also do not filter very well = increased engine wear.
Old May 2, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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the only thing that i have found with intakes is the filter. tubing you will not have a problem with but as far as the filter make sure you get one thats brand name. i like my apexi power intake a lot. no dirt on the inside at all

as for power...short rams just make your car sound bad *** above 3000 rpm.
cold air is the way to go for HP but there have been people who have gotten their engines hydrolocked from puddles (must be submerged tho). its your call.
Old May 2, 2008 | 09:59 AM
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the e-bay intakes are perfectly fine! i dont care what anyone else here says.
Just make sure of the following:
1) Either make sure it comes with a K&N filter, or buy one afterwards.
2) Buy one that goes in the fender (CAI). But remember this requires drilling a 3 inch hole in your fender near the battery.
3) Enjoy loudness at WOT.
Old May 2, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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I bought mine off of ebay and i love it, the only thing i did was ditch that filter that it came with cause they do nothing but rust up. and the thing that sucks about it that there is no mounting point for the ones you get on ebay, but those are pretty easy to make.
Old May 2, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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ive seen no name brand or cheap filters fall apart. like the element falling off. aem has a new dry flow filter that doesnt require oiling and flows a lot better.
Old May 3, 2008 | 07:02 AM
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Cheap ebay tube with the correct placement and then buy a K&N filter to replace the cheap one that comes with the kit. There used to be filters from Intense Performance that I would recommend over K&N, but unfortunately they are no longer in business.

You'll like the sound and there will be minimal gains, but the stock air box isn't too bad of a design.
Old May 3, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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I bought myself one of these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=160230936350

My friend has one and he loves his too.


The main thing with these intakes though is they come with a cheapo filter. I wouldn't expect any power gains from the ebay intakes at all, if so, maybe just a little. The quality and fitment isn't perfect, so there are some rough spots that could inhibit airflow a bit.

Also, it is almost down to a science as far as mathematically calculating how far the MAF sensor needs to be to the throttle body (intake sound can cause resonance and compression waves across the MAF sensor), and how far the filter needs to be from the MAF sensor, how much of the piping has to be straight in front of the MAF sensor before it can bend or have welds, etc. In some cars going to any cold air intake kit can make them lose power actually if their stock intakes aren't restrictive just because of MAF readings being slightly off. I know from experience on the Taurus that just removing the silencer from the stock airbox and putting a K&N panel filter is the best you can get, people have dynoed with less power with their cold air intakes. Same holds true with the BMW M5, I heard a story of someone putting cold air intake kits (its got two throttle body's and intakes) and losing like 20hp or something like that.

Now, im not saying we are going to lose any horsepower, our intake manifolds are very loud and thus Nissan put a CRAPLOAD of intake piping and silencers into the stock system to quiet it down, the stock setup probably could be restrictive in the upper rev ranges where a lot of airflow is needed. This could balance out the slight performance decrease from the MAF readings being less precise.

This is why a more expensive intake could give you a bit more horsepower than the ebay intakes because they might go through more time to get things positioned a little more optimally, but either way I don't think there is that much to be gained or lost as far as power goes on the intake. I say just go for it for the sound if anything.
Old May 3, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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does any1 have pics of the kit that goes through the fender? i've been wanting to get one but i think the ebay ones sit behind the rad.
Old May 3, 2008 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by madmax95se
is the ANY difference in $20 ebay cold air intakes and stillen $200 intakes??????
Don't buy a $200 intake. If you can find a Place Racing style CAI on eBay--the kind that goes in the fender well--then buy it and put a K&N filter on the end. If you're unable to find this style, you're probably best off hacking off the end of your stock air box (so that you can use the OEM midpipe) and attaching a K&N to the end of it. There is a write up somewhere on the .org that more thoroughly describes this process.
Old May 3, 2008 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Xzecution'R
does any1 have pics of the kit that goes through the fender? i've been wanting to get one but i think the ebay ones sit behind the rad.

The one I linked to in my above post goes through the fender. It routes in behind the battery and under that fusebox:

Old May 4, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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anybody?
Old May 4, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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personally i think it matter only if you have or r going to put on an exhaust. i see it as if ur getting more air in u should be putting more exhaust out. but thats only my understanding of it.
Old May 4, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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The only real difference is going to be the filter (usually cheap with the ebay ones). If you get a K&N to go on the ebay intake you should be good to go.
Old May 4, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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can't really see the bend of the pipe that goes into the fender apron though.
Old May 4, 2008 | 02:15 PM
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i got a ebay intake for awhile, jus wana no where u guys put the air temp sensor bc i dont see it in the pics. I had to glue mine in that cheap rubber hole.
Old May 4, 2008 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by maxx0831
i got a ebay intake for awhile, jus wana no where u guys put the air temp sensor bc i dont see it in the pics. I had to glue mine in that cheap rubber hole.
See that section in between my throttle body and MAF sensor? There is a hole in the bottom of that that is rubber and I just stuck it in there.
Old May 5, 2008 | 09:01 AM
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Are two identical threads really necessary???

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=560939

A lot of your threads seem to be getting locked lately....
Old May 5, 2008 | 09:56 AM
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Old May 5, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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I don't know what an intake is anymore.
Old May 5, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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Dont bother with the cheap ebay intake because they only add about 5whp. You should do it right the first time and get Stillen because they add about 20whp per my butt dyno printout.
Old May 5, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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no only sound all you get is sound. you will feel no difference any diff in feel is a mental thought. tho a good idea if you are lookin to do several more mods then allowing more air flow is only helpful.

Please search next time...
Old May 5, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by IHAVEA2KMAXIMA
Dont bother with the cheap ebay intake because they only add about 5whp. You should do it right the first time and get Stillen because they add about 20whp per my butt dyno printout.
maybe that is true on a turbo'ed and tuned car but not a stock max.
Old May 5, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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Yea it does make a difference....ive just installed a injen cai in 01 maxima and im loving it!!! It sounds good and you feel the power difference... and as KillaKarebear says if ur lookin to put a exhaust on it and you should definitely not get a cheap one
Old May 5, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hot_wax_tree
maybe that is true on a turbo'ed and tuned car but not a stock max.
sarcasm > you
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My graph is too legit even though I only spent a couple minutes to throw everything together using Paint.
Old May 5, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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ok well ya, i think from all the info ive gotten is that ill just get a ebay intake and change out the filter to somethin like a knn, or aem.

thanks for all the help!
Old May 10, 2008 | 03:18 PM
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u can still get good cai of e bay
Old May 10, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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u can still get good cai of e bay
Old May 10, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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I had a PRCAI. Took off the midpipe recently and acceleration and throttle response is 10 times better. Seems like I am liking the HAI setup better than the CAI setup. I was reading Tantako's article on air intakes and I think he might be right on that the stock airbox is the best optimum intake for the 4th gen.
Old May 10, 2008 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by hot_wax_tree
maybe that is true on a turbo'ed and tuned car but not a stock max.
Comedy gold > j00
Old May 15, 2008 | 12:18 AM
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i bought mine OBX CAI from egay. it sounds really good. intakes doesnt really matter that much. sometime you loose power sometime you gain.
Old May 15, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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I am sure they make a little bit of difference. I have seen issues where on other cars guys would put the metal/aluminum ones on and they hurt performance. Have you ever touched one of those things after the car was running for a while. In most cases heat hurts performance
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