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Old May 2, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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VE 5 speed and AT axle interchange .. help

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I got a 92 VE Auto w/VLSD and no ABS. I want to convert to 5 speed. I know the obvious is needed. ( Trans,linkage,shifter,clutch,flywheel,clutch pedal and neutral safety re-wire). I`ve searched and could not find info on the axles. I want to know if the 5 speed axles are the same as the Auto axles. If not .. what makes em different.
Old May 2, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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VE axles are the same no matter what trans, all taht makes the axles different is LSD or ABS. You cant use vg axles wit a ve but you can use abs in non abs cars and vice versa, just have to put the abs rings on.
Old May 2, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 92gxe/cg2
VE axles are the same no matter what trans, all taht makes the axles different is LSD or ABS. You cant use vg axles wit a ve but you can use abs in non abs cars and vice versa, just have to put the abs rings on.
Wrong! VG axles are the same no matter what tranny you have. VE axles are unique depending on what type of tranny you have.
Old May 2, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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Yup, as maxitech said..the vg axles are the same no matter what kind of trans..the ve axles are tranny specific= ve auto different from any vg/ve axle...ve manual= different from any vg/ve axle.
Old May 2, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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Well I had the vg axles were interchangeable with vgs part right, but i could have sworn VEs were the same for auto or man, but alas i was wrong. Thanks for giving the right info tho guys.
Old May 2, 2008 | 10:06 PM
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Old May 3, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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VG axles - all interchange
VE Axle - no interchange. A/T goes with A/T only. M/T goes with M/T only. All VEs came with VLSD in the USA.
Old May 5, 2008 | 08:50 AM
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Thanks for the help guys. I even was at the dealer to do a cross reference. The Manual and auto even have different part numbers. I picked up the master cyl. and clutch pedal from the junkyard yesterday. I thought it would be like the 240SX and have the provisions for the pedal ... to my surprise .. it doesn`t .... any ideas ?
Old May 5, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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I did a little research some time ago and thought that i came across info that stated that the VG and VE use the same manual trans. i could be mistakin but if its true it should help in narrowing down the search for the tranny
Old May 5, 2008 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 300zmax
I did a little research some time ago and thought that i came across info that stated that the VG and VE use the same manual trans. i could be mistakin but if its true it should help in narrowing down the search for the tranny
You obviously did NO "research some time ago" and clearly didnt even read the posts in this thread! Try reading post 3, 4, 5, or 7.

Now ask yourself, if the transmissions are the same, why wouldnt the axles be interchangeable????

If you need to get your post count up, try reading the whole thread and post something useful please. That is all.

Gamera30, most people who sell VE axles DONT have the correct part number. Try and pick them up localy so you can return them easily if they are the wrong one(s).

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Old May 5, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxpwer
You obviously did NO "research some time ago" and clearly didnt even read the posts in this thread! Try reading post 3, 4, 5, or 7.

Now ask yourself, if the transmissions are the same, why wouldnt the axles be interchangeable????

If you need to get your post count up, try reading the whole thread and post something useful please. That is all.

Gamera30, most people who sell VE axles DONT have the correct part number. Try and pick them up localy so you can return them easily if they are the wrong one(s).
Most, but not all
Old May 5, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
Most, but not all
I purposely didnt say "all" because I figured you were one of the few that can supply the correct axle(s).
Old May 5, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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300zmax. I know for a FACT that VE and VG 5 speeds ( and auto) are different. For one.. the starter is in a different location and 2) The axles on ve are thicker so it wont rit in a VG trans. I know all VE have LSD also.

Ya gotta good point there Maxpwer. I work for a dealer and sometimes I wanna CHOKE my part dept. for all kinds of screw ups...lol I suppose trial and error would be best.

I`ve been thinking bout this whole swap ... and .... I`m not worried bout the cruise control and the neutral safety feature.( any experienced driver would step on the clutch out of habit anyway) Will the auto speed sensor work w/manual trans ??..Wanna know because of the speedo. I helped a friend w/ an SR/manual trans swap in an S13 and that was a snag we ran into.

if any of u guys can post a link to this swap, I`d GREATLY APPRECIATE it. I`m tryin to cheat and not convert to the VI intake,ECM and harness.

thanks

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Old May 6, 2008 | 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by GAMERA30
if any of u guys can post a link to this swap, I`d GREATLY APPRECIATE it. I`m tryin to cheat and not convert to the VI intake,ECM and harness.

thanks
Ummm...Stickies?


http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=293114
Old May 6, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxpwer
Gamera30, most people who sell VE axles DONT have the correct part number. Try and pick them up localy so you can return them easily if they are the wrong one(s).
This is exactly true. I got a drivers side axle from a local BigBoxAuto(tm) store and brought it home. When I compared it to the axle on the car it was wrong. When I took it back to the local store they found that the part number on the box was right , but that someone had put the wrong axle in the box.

They changed it for the right one with no hassle and no extra shipping charges.
Old May 6, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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Damn

Originally Posted by Maxpwer
You obviously did NO "research some time ago" and clearly didnt even read the posts in this thread! Try reading post 3, 4, 5, or 7.

Now ask yourself, if the transmissions are the same, why wouldnt the axles be interchangeable????

If you need to get your post count up, try reading the whole thread and post something useful please. That is all.

Gamera30, most people who sell VE axles DONT have the correct part number. Try and pick them up localy so you can return them easily if they are the wrong one(s).
Awww c'mon be nice.
Old May 9, 2008 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxpwer
You obviously did NO "research some time ago" and clearly didnt even read the posts in this thread! Try reading post 3, 4, 5, or 7.

Now ask yourself, if the transmissions are the same, why wouldnt the axles be interchangeable????

If you need to get your post count up, try reading the whole thread and post something useful please. That is all.
Did i mention that i maybe mistaken and yes i did read each thread and concure that the automatic half shafts from a VE will not work in the manual trany of a VE or auto of a VG. i based my research off the tranny numbers found in my factory manual and looked on from there. and the five minutes i found three website hat give grounds to my statement. and as far as post counts go check my profile, this is my fith post since i joined months ago so i guess i couldnt care much about how offen i post. and as for the websites i found here you go, enjoy.

http://www.drivetrain.com/nissanRS5F50Afwd5sp.html
http://importdrivetrain.com/manualtransparts.htm#NISSAN
http://www.jdmtigerjapanese.com/niss...1g73b100g19500

and if im wrong i will except that humbly as to that i know "for a fact" that i dont know everything about my max but i "do know" i put in a great deal of effort learning about it.
Old May 9, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 300zmax
Did i mention that i maybe mistaken and yes i did read each thread and concure that the automatic half shafts from a VE will not work in the manual trany of a VE or auto of a VG. i based my research off the tranny numbers found in my factory manual and looked on from there. and the five minutes i found three website hat give grounds to my statement. and as far as post counts go check my profile, this is my fith post since i joined months ago so i guess i couldnt care much about how offen i post. and as for the websites i found here you go, enjoy.

http://www.drivetrain.com/nissanRS5F50Afwd5sp.html
http://importdrivetrain.com/manualtransparts.htm#NISSAN
http://www.jdmtigerjapanese.com/niss...1g73b100g19500

and if im wrong i will except that humbly as to that i know "for a fact" that i dont know everything about my max but i "do know" i put in a great deal of effort learning about it.
AGAIN... we have souch a problem with axles because LISTED axle numbers are wrong. I know this topic stickied somewhere.

YOUR ARE WRONG



Take it from someone 2 PPL that ACTAULY HANDLED THE AXLES.

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Old May 9, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 300zmax
Did i mention that i maybe mistaken and yes i did read each thread and concure that the automatic half shafts from a VE will not work in the manual trany of a VE or auto of a VG. i based my research off the tranny numbers found in my factory manual and looked on from there. and the five minutes i found three website hat give grounds to my statement. and as far as post counts go check my profile, this is my fith post since i joined months ago so i guess i couldnt care much about how offen i post. and as for the websites i found here you go, enjoy.

http://www.drivetrain.com/nissanRS5F50Afwd5sp.html
http://importdrivetrain.com/manualtransparts.htm#NISSAN
http://www.jdmtigerjapanese.com/niss...1g73b100g19500

and if im wrong i will except that humbly as to that i know "for a fact" that i dont know everything about my max but i "do know" i put in a great deal of effort learning about it.
What "statement" are you trying to make here??

Originally Posted by 300zmax
I did a little research some time ago and thought that i came across info that stated that the VG and VE use the same manual trans. i could be mistakin but if its true it should help in narrowing down the search for the tranny
This one?

If so, your "research" and "websites" are wrong, the ve axles are not the same as ANY VG axle..

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Old May 9, 2008 | 05:03 PM
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Also make sure to specify if you have ABS or not so you if you have abs, you get the units with the teeth rings
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GUYS GUYS ?... We are gettin a lil hostile in here...chill out. As for my CURIOSITY w/ this swap, I was told you only need the driver side axle for this swap. True or false ??... Has anyone tried this ??...

We all know VG axles DONT FIT VE.. so lets not bring that up again. I have No ABS..
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STICKIES work wonders for saving you from asking dumb questions or making dumb statements....as well as admitting defeat when some of the more experienced users show you how it really is. (300zmax)

i recently went through an axle issue where i couldnt get the right axle for my VE, so i took pics of different axles and we shared part numbers (iirc), and it was stuck in the stickies somewhere.

good luck with your planned swap, GAMERA30.
Old May 10, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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thanks for the help and info guys... i tried the stickies and could`nt find that much accurate info on it. We`ll see
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Old May 10, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by GAMERA30
GUYS GUYS ?... We are gettin a lil hostile in here...chill out. As for my CURIOSITY w/ this swap, I was told you only need the driver side axle for this swap. True or false ??... Has anyone tried this ??...

We all know VG axles DONT FIT VE.. so lets not bring that up again. I have No ABS..
You need BOTH axles for the swap.
NO VG axle (3rd gen maxima) will work in a VE transmission.
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
You need BOTH axles for the swap.
NO VG axle (3rd gen maxima) will work in a VE transmission.
you'd think after twenty-five posts on this topic in this thread, you'd think everyone would get it by now..... it's actually kinda a fantastically simple concept. that being that there are three SETS of axles. 6 different axles total. then just a matter of abs or non abs
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Originally Posted by capedcadaver
you'd think after twenty-five posts on this topic in this thread, you'd think everyone would get it by now..... it's actually kinda a fantastically simple concept. that being that there are three SETS of axles. 6 different axles total. then just a matter of abs or non abs
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