Hi I just bought a Cold Air Intake off of eBay and just received it. I tried to install it and it doesn't fit nicely under my hood. So what i did is only use one of the 2 included piped and it seems to work fine. but i just want to know if that is not a good idea and could harm my engine. I will include a picture as soon as i get out of work so you all can see what i mean. One thing i was confused when installing is the intake pipe has 2 hose connectors and when i took out my stock intake it only had one hose connected to it. What should i do with the other connector. i left it open but i don't think that is how it is supposed to be. I will include a link in this post to a eBay item that is the exact intake i bought. Let me know what you all think.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=160228481934

Thanks

 

is this for a VE or for a VG? that kit doesn't look like a typical VG CAI, and all true CAIs require you to do a little bit of frame cutting so the filter will go under the headlight the right way.

 

It is for a VG. I tried to install this in the same place as the old intake. When you say go under the headlights i am taking it i installed it in the wrong direction. What i will do is go out to may car during my lunch brake and take a few pictures and post them

 

is this just an add-on for the stock plastic pipe? the kit pictured is not bendy enough to be a full cai. to me it looks like a VE setup since it just says 92 93 94 which is the VE era...

 

No this is not an add on for the stock plastic pipe. And you are correct it isn't bendy enough to get to the place where the old intake was. It is a very very tight fit with both pipes. That is why i used only the short pipe. As for VE vs VG my Maxima is a 1993 3.0L V6 GXE. So i believe it is a VG engine, i may be wrong but when i go down to my car in about an hour i will see what the Chassis description sticker says.

 

1989-1994 GXE's = VG
1989-1991 SE's = VG
1992-1994 SE's = VE

That is a CAI for a VE30DE, I know a few people who have it, it goes through the wheel well. You cannot get a cold air intake on ebay made for the VG30e Maxima. What you have to do is get a 1993 Honda Accord Intake, and a two and three fourths inch 90 degree bend. You'll need to have some handheld metal snips to cut away a small amount of unused metal under the headlight. You'll also need to make or buy an MAF adapter that attatches one side to the MAF, then another side that you can attatch a cuplink around. I used mobile home PVC pipe and drilled holes where the bolt holes are on the MAF and used nuts on the other end to tighten.

You'll have an S pipe that goes from the lower intake manifold to right about where the MAF currently is, then a long pipe with a 70 degree bend on one end that will connect from the MAF down to the headlight area, then the 90 degree bend that goes down below the headlight area, and you put the filter on from below. There is only one vacuum line on the pipes, and it will go from your S pipe, to IAC.

Some of the pipes vary slightly in size so you may have to use a hacksaw to fit everything in nicely to where they're not too long. I think you'll need one more rubber cuplink and some pipe tighteners too.

So the accord intake:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BOMZ-...QQcmdZViewItem

2.75" 90 degree bend
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-75-...QQcmdZViewItem

Hacksaw (or something better), MAF adapter, Extra cuplink, 4 bolts (about 1.5") and 4 nuts, 2 or 3 extra cuplink fasteners.

 

It looks like they marketed it as a CAI when its really just a warm air.

If it was a "true" CAI for the VG it would need to wrap up to where your stock box is, and then down between your battery and fender and then dip down behind your headlight.

I've only seen this custom and I'm not sure the make a full CAI for the VG max.

As for the two holes, thats another reason for me to think that they are just calling it a VG intake when really its from another car and they "think" it will fit. You'll just have to plug the second hole.

What you should have done is bought a Honda Accord intake. I don't remember what year but I know I've seen a few VG guys run them and they work pretty well with little to no fitment issues.

EDIT: Pearl ya beat me to it!! I thought it was older Accords but I wasn't sure...Good stuff!!!

 

Will that actually add HP for an SE?

 

Warpspeed Performance makes a CAI for the VG30E Maxima

 

depends which SE you're talking about. If it's a 89-91 SE then it's identical to all GXEs (VG30E 160HP 12v SOHC). If it's a 92-94SE (VE30DE 190HP 24v DOHC) then it's unique.

Either way, warpspeed ypipe adds more power than any common intake setup.

intake-wise the best thing is some of Aaron92SE's intake spacers. last forever and the temps on a VG drop 20-25 degrees on the IM, and the IM temps on a VE drop like 40 degrees. Don't waste too much time with the whole elaborate piping setup tho.

 

A cold air intake setup on either of them will add a minute amount of HP, but it will increase low end slightly and give the car a mean growl. For the price, which is next to nothing... You can't really go wrong, just be sure to replace the Ebay filter you get with a K&N shortly there after.

Also, this should be known:
The 1993 Honda Accord CAI setup will ALSO work on the VE30de, all you do is cut the S pipe in half to make it a 90 degree bend, then use the L pipe from the MAF to the headlight, then put the 90 degree bend down under the headlight hole.... you don't even need the rest of the S-pipe, and I believe it is cheaper than the VE made ebay intake.

 

Ok i know i said i was going to put pictures up earlier but didn't get around to it. So here they is a link to where i hosted them. Now with this setup can i harm something. i am going to do what was said on this forum about the honda pipe but intill i do that is it safe to keep this connected or should i put back the stock system for know.

http://gallery.mac.com/creedman_2550#100008

 

Just remember to make VERY sure if you go with a K&N, you don't over oil your filter because the excess oil can coat and ruin your MAF. If you are worried you may over oil, just buy a dryflow filter to be safe.

 

If you have a full CAI, there will be a bit of pipe travel before the MAF meaning the oil on the filter is pretty harmless.

 

Honda egos will be harmed... psychiatric costs are unmeasurable.

Looks good! The only comment would be how MAF is supported, cant see. Mechanical vibrations can kill it. Original is tight in chassis, via rubber...

 

Hmm... well, apparently it isn't for the car since the whole assembly is basically danging. I would probably go ahead and get the Accord Intake, it 'fits' much better under there and everything is tight and secure, but that's just me; I'd be worried about my bouncy MAF.

 

Dont throw it out. Just build proper supports so that engine or road vibrations wont get it. Steel brackets with soft rubber insulation.

 

that doesn't look right at all.

first thing i would do is look for the directions. if you can't find them, ask the seller. the auction said that they'd be included.

if you look at your pics, you'll see that you actually moved the filter CLOSER to your engine. that totally defeats the purpose of a CAI.

there's 2 different kinds of CAI's: one that goes under the headlight, and one that goes in the fender. then you have the warm air intake that goes in the old stock position.

arrange your pipes in different configurations to try and figure it out. just by looking at the pics, i can see that it could possibly be for either.

if you took the pipe you're using now, and flipped it around, you could connect the other pipe in an "S" configuration. that'd leave you with a warm air intake.

or, you could possibly arrange it so that it goes across the front, over the relay box and under the headlight.

 

there's a nice mounting point where the stock air box was mounted. just go to home depot, get some metal for a bracket, some fender washers and sandwich some rubber washers between them. attach the other end to one of the bolts for the MAF adapter.

 

Yes, definitely it is not CAI but WAI.

Whatever, I do question the whole purpose of CAI-purpose...

 

well that's what happens when the sellers don't provide enough specific info and the buyer doesn't know what the finished product usually looks like, and you end up with a VE CAI on a VG. I think i'd have a Swiss Airbox rather than a "super-shortram". If you've REALLY got money to throw away you can always go for a functional hood scoop into a rubber-sealed airbox. But a) wouldn't look right on a 3rd gen and b) wouln't in ANY way be worth the money.. just something to do if you're itching to burn through your Federal Stimulus check.

 

True...didn't think of that.

 

Sorry, but can you say again how a length of pipe gets rid of oil possibly sucked from the oiled filter element?

IMO you can have a mile of pipe there and oil in the air-stream will land up on the MAF ............... guaranteed

 

...another noob, screwed by the eBay gods. It's a VE intake.

I wouldn't worry about oil ruining the MAF. Just follow the directions on the K&N filter maintenence kit. I've been running a HAI for 2 years now with no problems. It IS dirtier than the old stock airbox, but I'm not having idle problems. I can run my finger over the screen on the MAF and it will be grey with dirt, but the throttle body is still clean as a whistle. I would be more worried about oil from blow-by than some mist getting on the MAF from the filter.

 

depending on the curvature of the piping, centrifugal force could cause the oil to coat the walls rather than staying dispersed though the air. Plus more piping would mean that more of the oil would slough off onto the walls, even if it were dead straight, and as the oil coated the walls the rest would diffuse evenly until the concentration was less and less. not saying that NONE would reach the MAF, and not saying that the MAF would never have issues because of it... but the length of the pipe can influence the amount of oil that reaches the MAF.

 

Its not a question of ruining the MAF - its a question of ruining the desirable and quick acting characteristics of the sensor so that you can actually experience the full benefit of your mod - whatever deposits get stuck to the sensor, influences both its measurement accuracy and reaction times to changes in flow - sure you have had no problems in 2 years because it hasn't actually packed up completely but I am willing to bet any coating of even a bit of oil will affect your mixture (yes - that the O2 will partially compensate for) but your mixture response to throttle changes are also affected, and it takes quite a few revolutions of the motor to have the O2 sort that lot .............. not even mentioning the masking effect on the ability of the MAf sensor to compensate for inlet air temp and thus density

This may sound like analyzing the thing to death, but it is a fact that given the right environment and combination of other factors, it can and will turn around and bite you

 

oh no doubt about it. especially if the response is non-linear... if you change an exponential graph by shifting it... you won't notice it on one end but it'll mess you up huge on the other end. and since even the ECU is programmed a certain way it's still going to use the 'regular' values first, then once it figures out something is being dumb it'll be like "ugh ok let's use a different map" but by that time you have been running rich or lean or something for however long that takes to happen, and in the city that will really show up, as you are constantly messing with the throttle. not so much on a flat level cruise at a steady speed.. but how often do we drive 20 miles on totally flat, level ground with no slowdowns, speedups, or lane changes? not very much.

 

I just ordered the Honda intake hopefully it will come in soon, because now when the car is idol at a light for a few minutes the rpm drops a little and if it drops to much the car stalls. I believe this is because of the intake. I hope its not another problem.

 

I had the same problem it ended up being a dirty Idle Air Control Valve. if you clean it get a new gasket from your local nissan dealership. its like $5.

 

Hey Guys just finished installing the intake. I couldn't make it fit next to the battery and under the fuse box because the battery is to large and pipe dosn't fit in the space allowed. But i do have pics of what i did do. Hope this is ok like this

http://gallery.mac.com/creedman_2550...&bgcolor=black

http://gallery.mac.com/creedman_2550...&bgcolor=black

 

still more of a HAI than a CAI, still in the engine compartment. but doesn't look too bad. (too shiny for my tastes...)

and another personal opinion, the pix are too small, cant get good detail on the finer stuff.

 

I`m glad that someone posted on one of those E-bay CAI`s... I was debating on gettin that same one

 

I have one, still need the rest of the piping put on because i can't get my dremel out there to cut it...

cali requires a sticker be put on mandating that it's legit, this is why the real CAIs cost so much. because they're tested and went through the state for cert. just letting you know to keep the airbox incase

also. a toyota corolla's CAI will work with a VG. typically ebay only sells for VE.

 

I was actually thinking about buying that same kit. I've got a cone mounted to the stock intake right now so it was more or less for the flashy piping. I just really find the whole black everywhere engine to be a bit boring. I prefer the polished metal look with a few blue accents here and there. Glad I found out it wouldn't fit before I went ahead and bought it. It's a wonder they can sell them without getting negative ratings.

 

I'm using the stock plastic intake tube w/a JWT Pop filter assy. Ingesting air from inside a fiberglass enclosure which is feed by a 3" aircraft duct hose recievimg air from under the battery tray via a velocity stack! No more warm/hot air!

 

if u take ur negative battery terminal out for like 5 mins and then reconnect it then ECU will learn right away the changes which has been made with CAI....

 

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oh cumon ma newbie

 

free fix

 

does that work for everything or just the throttle body