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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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O.K so i just got back from the track about 15 mins ago and couldn't wait to post.... i dont have pics of timeslip nor would my PS3 allow me to attach pics even if i did........

R/T....... .624
60'....... 2.287
330...... 6.403
1/8....... 9.756
MPH..... 74.16
1000..... 12.612
1/4........ 15.049
MPH....... 92.63
Current mods, Ebay CAI, Greddy Evo2 catback (n the say 4th gens are so much faster )
Current problems... 2 o2 sensors are bad, a very small exhaust leak at th B pipe n axle back, and SE 17's with 50% thread on the front, 20% rear................ i am somewhat happy yet disappointed, all night i kept pullin constant 2.2 60'...... according to timeslips i now officially own the fastest auto 5th gen on here
Edit: I had about 5 total runs, my best 60' was 2.217 n ran 15.1 my trap speed is down a tad from earlier this year where my best was like a 93.xx i also had a run of 15.050 but im not even gonna look fo that timeslip

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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Congrats. I also managed a new pb but it should have been alot faster than what it was.
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^^^ everyones times were off tonight yo. i was really going for 14.9's n 8's but i cant complain too much
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Pretty good runs. Just need to drop the 60' a bit and you will be in the 14's big time. 60's improve a lot if you go on a race day because they prep the track much better but then you don't normally get as many runs in so its a tradeoff.
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^^^ agreed... i might be of for a while until i actually start modding my car though, hopefully a lil bit of modding would get me mid 14's then, to the carshows from there
Old Oct 25, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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That's amazing or am I missing something....?? Only intake and exhaust on the 3.0 and an auto? From what I remember the majority only hit very high 15s or low 16s don't they (in stock form)?

Premium fuel I assume...

I can't believe you hit a 2.2 w/the 3.0 auto with those mods only....great job!
Old Oct 25, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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That's amazing or am I missing something....?? Only intake and exhaust on the 3.0 and an auto? From what I remember the majority only hit very high 15s or low 16s don't they (in stock form)?

Premium fuel I assume...

I can't believe you hit a 2.2 w/the 3.0 auto with those mods only....great job!
well this was with weight reduction... but my best in stock trim was a 2.2 60' n 15.1@92....... i did the reduction to make up for my 2 bad o2 sensors n exhaust leak...... im too broke i cant afford the sensors .... and yes I/E is my only two mods n yes also to 93 octane
Old Oct 26, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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lol if your broke... go to radio shack, get a resistor and slap it on there!...lol...they cost like 88 cents.
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lol if your broke... go to radio shack, get a resistor and slap it on there!...lol...they cost like 88 cents.
what does that do???
Old Oct 26, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
what does that do???
Simulates it... like the o2 sensor sends back information in ohms... and when the o2 sensor goes bad it retards something.... and i believe you can simulate the 02 sensors with resistors.

Its the cheap way of getting the job done, i don't recommend it though..lol
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Simulators only work for the secondary o2's which don't control anything, just check the operation of the cats and give cel.

Primary o2's only control the a/f in closed loop, no control over anything when you are WOT.
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Originally Posted by Jime
Simulators only work for the secondary o2's which don't control anything, just check the operation of the cats and give cel.

Primary o2's only control the a/f in closed loop, no control over anything when you are WOT.
So these means if you have bad 02 sensors you will not loose power at WOT?
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So these means if you have bad 02 sensors you will not loose power at WOT?
That's correct.
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hmm... i dont fully understand, so at WOT the car acts as if there is no sensors in it... i thought once the o2 sensors throws a CEL, the car would go into a kinda protection mode to prevent extreme damage, causing u to lose a lil power??? but IDK, yall the mechanic geniuses
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
hmm... i dont fully understand, so at WOT the car acts as if there is no sensors in it... i thought once the o2 sensors throws a CEL, the car would go into a kinda protection mode to prevent extreme damage, causing u to lose a lil power??? but IDK, yall the mechanic geniuses
The o2 sensors only control in closed loop operation, as soon as you go to open loop ie WOT the car runs off a fixed map on the ECU. Thats why you need some sort of a/f adjustment ie Emanage/SAFCII etc so that at WOT you can add or subtract fuel to give you the correct a/f ratio for your mods.

Everything works fine until you do enough or serious mods to cause your a/f to go lean enough to cause damage. Right now my car runs extremely lean with no a/f adjustment, it probably wouldn't blow up but it would give me a lean a/f ratio and would pull timing.
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So at what rpm did you brake torque to on order to achieve those '60s and times?

How much weight reduction approximately?

Still fascinated by your success and makes me consider passing on a 3.5 (color/options I want is very rare around Memphis) and just pick up a DE-K equipped model...
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by niceguy
So at what rpm did you brake torque to on order to achieve those '60s and times?

How much weight reduction approximately?

Still fascinated by your success and makes me consider passing on a 3.5 (color/options I want is very rare around Memphis) and just pick up a DE-K equipped model...
the OP's best friend here and the OP is banned but with this run all cloth interior was out, except driver seat, however as stated before the op ran 15.1 with all street trim and spare in with same mods on a warmer day , he power breaked at 2K sometimes 2100rpms... so really all the weight reduction was a waste of time..... hence his reason for not being as happy, according to him his goal was a 14.9 n PB 14.8
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by niceguy
So at what rpm did you brake torque to on order to achieve those '60s and times?

How much weight reduction approximately?

Still fascinated by your success and makes me consider passing on a 3.5 (color/options I want is very rare around Memphis) and just pick up a DE-K equipped model...
GET THE 3.5!!! You'd be crazy to pass one up for a regular 5th gen.
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 10:24 AM
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GET THE 3.5!!! You'd be crazy to pass one up for a regular 5th gen.
i can agree with what ur saying..... 3.5's are sweet, however if you were more concerned about durability then yes i can see why someone would pass on a 5.5th... but i guess since we're in the 1/4 mile section, its more about speed huh?
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 24K on da way
i can agree with what ur saying..... 3.5's are sweet, however if you were more concerned about durability then yes i can see why someone would pass on a 5.5th... but i guess since we're in the 1/4 mile section, its more about speed huh?
If the speed matters as much as it sounds like, probably so!
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
If the speed matters as much as it sounds like, probably so!
but i guess faster is faster, though dandy did squeeze 270whp from the VQ30dek however there is no N/A 5th gen DE-K in the 13's 14.2 or 3 was the fastest i saw N/A
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Originally Posted by 24K on da way
but i guess faster is faster, though dandy did squeeze 270whp from the VQ30dek however there is no N/A 5th gen DE-K in the 13's 14.2 or 3 was the fastest i saw N/A
Yeah and the 5.5s are poking into th the 13s with just boltons for autos (if auto is what you are going for)
Old Oct 30, 2008 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
Yeah and the 5.5s are poking into th the 13s with just boltons for autos (if auto is what you are going for)
(OP SPEAKING) true, yea, the 5.5th gens are about 1-2 cars faster auto IMO, but that will change soon
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(OP SPEAKING) true, yea, the 5.5th gens are about 1-2 cars faster auto IMO, but that will change soon
lol @1-2 cars. Its the quarter mile section man.
Old Oct 30, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ajcool2
lol @1-2 cars. Its the quarter mile section man.
op- couldnt really give a specific time, but yeah thats how i see it, n thats really not that true, just that no one here ever really do anything to a 5th gen (lets see what the sarcastic clowns gotta say), not a lot of people who mod, dyno, or actually runs there 5th gens, well they sure dont post under the correct sections n if they do, it'll be one post then they're MIA, but like i said its all gonna change
Old Oct 30, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 24K on da way
though dandy did squeeze 270whp from the VQ30dek however there is no N/A 5th gen DE-K in the 13's....14.2 or 3 was the fastest i saw N/A
Dandy ran 13 flat N/A, and then added 3.5 cams & ran mid 12's w/his DEK, IIRC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFZ22DRjMaQ
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DEK's are great just not so great in a 5th gen.
Old Oct 30, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ajcool2
DEK's are great just not so great in a 5th gen.
Time will tell, soon enough...

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Originally Posted by SmokinMax01
Dandy ran 13 flat N/A, and then added 3.5 cams & ran mid 12's w/his DEK, IIRC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFZ22DRjMaQ
dandy ran 12.6 DE-K however not in a 5th gen... but like u said, time will tell, 5th gen will probebly go down as one of the slowest maxima's though its faster than the 4th gen mod for mod, its just that nobody messes with the 5th gen DEK but only time will tell, makes me wanna try 13's auto but im not really goin for the speed like everyone else, 14.4 would do me well
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[QUOTE=24K on da way;6683601], 5th gen will probebly go down as one of the slowest maxima's though its faster than the 4th gen mod for mod,[QUOTE]

hOW SO, Are u saying that a DEK with intake and exhaust is faster than a 4thgen with the same?????
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[QUOTE=sho off;6698503][QUOTE=24K on da way;6683601], 5th gen will probebly go down as one of the slowest maxima's though its faster than the 4th gen mod for mod,

hOW SO, Are u saying that a DEK with intake and exhaust is faster than a 4thgen with the same?????
Yes.
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Originally Posted by 24K on da way
, 5th gen will probebly go down as one of the slowest maxima's though its faster than the 4th gen mod for mod,

Yes.
Not neccesarily. In the 1/4 mile that is. A 4th gen 5spd will be faster then a 00-01 5spd SE with the 17's. The 5th gen is a decent amount heavier then your traditional 4th gen 5spd. The 17's on those things are boat anchors, compared to the 4th gens 15-16's.

Neal ran a 14.2@95 in a bone stock 4th gen 5spd. Theres maybe been 10 5th gen 5spds who have dipped into the 14's bone stock.

The DE-K is a much better platform to build upon though. If only the 4th gen came with the DEK motor, my god, they'd be capable of high 13's to low 14's with simple bolt ons!
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Originally Posted by sho off

Not neccesarily. In the 1/4 mile that is. A 4th gen 5spd will be faster then a 00-01 5spd SE with the 17's. The 5th gen is a decent amount heavier then your traditional 4th gen 5spd. The 17's on those things are boat anchors, compared to the 4th gens 15-16's.

Neal ran a 14.2@95 in a bone stock 4th gen 5spd. Theres maybe been 10 5th gen 5spds who have dipped into the 14's bone stock.

The DE-K is a much better platform to build upon though. If only the 4th gen came with the DEK motor, my god, they'd be capable of high 13's to low 14's with simple bolt ons!

o.k first off you ultimately quoted the wrong person, i was posting as 24K and i said no such thing... comparing how many 4th gen that did 14's stock vs 5th is pointless when you have 10 trillion people here who actually mods and runs their 4th gens compared to probebly 15 ppl who does 5th gens, not to mention other than neal no one else came remotly close to 14.2 bone stock.... i wont compare a best driver time either... the average good driver is doing 15.2 in a 4th gen vs 14.9 in a 5th so yea how often will you see someone post in here about "yea my 4th gen 5spd just did a 14.2 stock at the track" vs yeah my 5th gen 5spd did 14.9 stock at the track"??? really i cant speak on a 5spd behalf because im auto but i will stand by my point and fact that mod for mod a 5th gen is faster than a 4th gen period (i owned both) and unless you own both and can prove to me otherwise all guesses, suggessions, and thoughts are irrelivant cause i personally proved it/THREAD
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
o.k first off you ultimately quoted the wrong person, i was posting as 24K and i said no such thing...

So you admit to posting under a "friends" account, while you were banned???




That's qualification for a PERMA BAN right there...

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lol @1-2 cars. Its the quarter mile section man.
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Originally Posted by SmokinMax01
So you admit to posting under a "friends" account, while you were banned???




That's qualification for a PERMA BAN right there...

is that what u wanna see, or will that make u happy????.............. i've known 24K for more than 5yrs, yes i was at his house n he was logged in n i ask him if i can post under this topic...... i think u want me banned cause u fail to beat my times... u should be perma ban for failing to drive an auto in a straight line ......
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o.k i admit, it was a tad funny
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