00 automagic New PB
00 automagic New PB
O.K so i just got back from the track about 15 mins ago and couldn't wait to post.... i dont have pics of timeslip nor would my PS3 allow me to attach pics even if i did........
R/T....... .624
60'....... 2.287
330...... 6.403
1/8....... 9.756
MPH..... 74.16
1000..... 12.612
1/4........ 15.049
MPH....... 92.63
Current mods, Ebay CAI, Greddy Evo2 catback (n the say 4th gens are so much faster
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Current problems... 2 o2 sensors are bad, a very small exhaust leak at th B pipe n axle back, and SE 17's with 50% thread on the front, 20% rear................ i am somewhat happy yet disappointed, all night i kept pullin constant 2.2 60'...... according to timeslips i now officially own the fastest auto 5th gen on here
Edit: I had about 5 total runs, my best 60' was 2.217 n ran 15.1 my trap speed is down a tad from earlier this year where my best was like a 93.xx i also had a run of 15.050 but im not even gonna look fo that timeslip
R/T....... .624
60'....... 2.287
330...... 6.403
1/8....... 9.756
MPH..... 74.16
1000..... 12.612
1/4........ 15.049
MPH....... 92.63
Current mods, Ebay CAI, Greddy Evo2 catback (n the say 4th gens are so much faster
) Current problems... 2 o2 sensors are bad, a very small exhaust leak at th B pipe n axle back, and SE 17's with 50% thread on the front, 20% rear................ i am somewhat happy yet disappointed, all night i kept pullin constant 2.2 60'...... according to timeslips i now officially own the fastest auto 5th gen on here

Edit: I had about 5 total runs, my best 60' was 2.217 n ran 15.1 my trap speed is down a tad from earlier this year where my best was like a 93.xx i also had a run of 15.050 but im not even gonna look fo that timeslip
Last edited by Grand_hustle17; Oct 24, 2008 at 07:41 PM.
Pretty good runs. Just need to drop the 60' a bit and you will be in the 14's big time. 60's improve a lot if you go on a race day because they prep the track much better but then you don't normally get as many runs in so its a tradeoff.
That's amazing or am I missing something....?? Only intake and exhaust on the 3.0 and an auto? From what I remember the majority only hit very high 15s or low 16s don't they (in stock form)?
Premium fuel I assume...
I can't believe you hit a 2.2 w/the 3.0 auto with those mods only....great job!
Premium fuel I assume...
I can't believe you hit a 2.2 w/the 3.0 auto with those mods only....great job!
That's amazing or am I missing something....?? Only intake and exhaust on the 3.0 and an auto? From what I remember the majority only hit very high 15s or low 16s don't they (in stock form)?
Premium fuel I assume...
I can't believe you hit a 2.2 w/the 3.0 auto with those mods only....great job!
Premium fuel I assume...
I can't believe you hit a 2.2 w/the 3.0 auto with those mods only....great job!
.... and yes I/E is my only two mods n yes also to 93 octane
Simulates it... like the o2 sensor sends back information in ohms... and when the o2 sensor goes bad it retards something.... and i believe you can simulate the 02 sensors with resistors.
Its the cheap way of getting the job done, i don't recommend it though..lol
Its the cheap way of getting the job done, i don't recommend it though..lol
Simulators only work for the secondary o2's which don't control anything, just check the operation of the cats and give cel.
Primary o2's only control the a/f in closed loop, no control over anything when you are WOT.
Primary o2's only control the a/f in closed loop, no control over anything when you are WOT.
So these means if you have bad 02 sensors you will not loose power at WOT?
hmm... i dont fully understand, so at WOT the car acts as if there is no sensors in it... i thought once the o2 sensors throws a CEL, the car would go into a kinda protection mode to prevent extreme damage, causing u to lose a lil power??? but IDK, yall the mechanic geniuses
hmm... i dont fully understand, so at WOT the car acts as if there is no sensors in it... i thought once the o2 sensors throws a CEL, the car would go into a kinda protection mode to prevent extreme damage, causing u to lose a lil power??? but IDK, yall the mechanic geniuses
Everything works fine until you do enough or serious mods to cause your a/f to go lean enough to cause damage. Right now my car runs extremely lean with no a/f adjustment, it probably wouldn't blow up but it would give me a lean a/f ratio and would pull timing.
So at what rpm did you brake torque to on order to achieve those '60s and times?
How much weight reduction approximately?
Still fascinated by your success and makes me consider passing on a 3.5 (color/options I want is very rare around Memphis) and just pick up a DE-K equipped model...
How much weight reduction approximately?
Still fascinated by your success and makes me consider passing on a 3.5 (color/options I want is very rare around Memphis) and just pick up a DE-K equipped model...
So at what rpm did you brake torque to on order to achieve those '60s and times?
How much weight reduction approximately?
Still fascinated by your success and makes me consider passing on a 3.5 (color/options I want is very rare around Memphis) and just pick up a DE-K equipped model...
How much weight reduction approximately?
Still fascinated by your success and makes me consider passing on a 3.5 (color/options I want is very rare around Memphis) and just pick up a DE-K equipped model...
So at what rpm did you brake torque to on order to achieve those '60s and times?
How much weight reduction approximately?
Still fascinated by your success and makes me consider passing on a 3.5 (color/options I want is very rare around Memphis) and just pick up a DE-K equipped model...
How much weight reduction approximately?
Still fascinated by your success and makes me consider passing on a 3.5 (color/options I want is very rare around Memphis) and just pick up a DE-K equipped model...
i can agree with what ur saying..... 3.5's are sweet, however if you were more concerned about durability then yes i can see why someone would pass on a 5.5th... but i guess since we're in the 1/4 mile section, its more about speed huh?
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If the speed matters as much as it sounds like, probably so!
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Yeah and the 5.5s are poking into th the 13s with just boltons for autos (if auto is what you are going for)
op- couldnt really give a specific time, but yeah thats how i see it, n thats really not that true, just that no one here ever really do anything to a 5th gen (lets see what the sarcastic clowns gotta say), not a lot of people who mod, dyno, or actually runs there 5th gens, well they sure dont post under the correct sections n if they do, it'll be one post then they're MIA, but like i said its all gonna change
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFZ22DRjMaQ
Dandy ran 13 flat N/A, and then added 3.5 cams & ran mid 12's w/his DEK, IIRC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFZ22DRjMaQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFZ22DRjMaQ
[QUOTE=24K on da way;6683601], 5th gen will probebly go down as one of the slowest maxima's though its faster than the 4th gen mod for mod,[QUOTE]
hOW SO, Are u saying that a DEK with intake and exhaust is faster than a 4thgen with the same?????
hOW SO, Are u saying that a DEK with intake and exhaust is faster than a 4thgen with the same?????
[QUOTE=sho off;6698503][QUOTE=24K on da way;6683601], 5th gen will probebly go down as one of the slowest maxima's though its faster than the 4th gen mod for mod,
hOW SO, Are u saying that a DEK with intake and exhaust is faster than a 4thgen with the same?????
Yes.
hOW SO, Are u saying that a DEK with intake and exhaust is faster than a 4thgen with the same?????
[QUOTE=ajcool2;6698562][QUOTE=sho off;6698503]
Not neccesarily. In the 1/4 mile that is. A 4th gen 5spd will be faster then a 00-01 5spd SE with the 17's. The 5th gen is a decent amount heavier then your traditional 4th gen 5spd. The 17's on those things are boat anchors, compared to the 4th gens 15-16's.
Neal ran a 14.2@95 in a bone stock 4th gen 5spd. Theres maybe been 10 5th gen 5spds who have dipped into the 14's bone stock.
The DE-K is a much better platform to build upon though. If only the 4th gen came with the DEK motor, my god, they'd be capable of high 13's to low 14's with simple bolt ons!
Neal ran a 14.2@95 in a bone stock 4th gen 5spd. Theres maybe been 10 5th gen 5spds who have dipped into the 14's bone stock.
The DE-K is a much better platform to build upon though. If only the 4th gen came with the DEK motor, my god, they'd be capable of high 13's to low 14's with simple bolt ons!
[QUOTE=96blkonblkse;6698991][QUOTE=ajcool2;6698562]
Not neccesarily. In the 1/4 mile that is. A 4th gen 5spd will be faster then a 00-01 5spd SE with the 17's. The 5th gen is a decent amount heavier then your traditional 4th gen 5spd. The 17's on those things are boat anchors, compared to the 4th gens 15-16's.
Neal ran a 14.2@95 in a bone stock 4th gen 5spd. Theres maybe been 10 5th gen 5spds who have dipped into the 14's bone stock.
The DE-K is a much better platform to build upon though. If only the 4th gen came with the DEK motor, my god, they'd be capable of high 13's to low 14's with simple bolt ons!
o.k first off you ultimately quoted the wrong person, i was posting as 24K and i said no such thing... comparing how many 4th gen that did 14's stock vs 5th is pointless when you have 10 trillion people here who actually mods and runs their 4th gens compared to probebly 15 ppl who does 5th gens, not to mention other than neal no one else came remotly close to 14.2 bone stock.... i wont compare a best driver time either... the average good driver is doing 15.2 in a 4th gen vs 14.9 in a 5th so yea how often will you see someone post in here about "yea my 4th gen 5spd just did a 14.2 stock at the track" vs yeah my 5th gen 5spd did 14.9 stock at the track"??? really i cant speak on a 5spd behalf because im auto but i will stand by my point and fact that mod for mod a 5th gen is faster than a 4th gen period (i owned both) and unless you own both and can prove to me otherwise all guesses, suggessions, and thoughts are irrelivant cause i personally proved it/THREAD
Not neccesarily. In the 1/4 mile that is. A 4th gen 5spd will be faster then a 00-01 5spd SE with the 17's. The 5th gen is a decent amount heavier then your traditional 4th gen 5spd. The 17's on those things are boat anchors, compared to the 4th gens 15-16's.
Neal ran a 14.2@95 in a bone stock 4th gen 5spd. Theres maybe been 10 5th gen 5spds who have dipped into the 14's bone stock.
The DE-K is a much better platform to build upon though. If only the 4th gen came with the DEK motor, my god, they'd be capable of high 13's to low 14's with simple bolt ons!
o.k first off you ultimately quoted the wrong person, i was posting as 24K and i said no such thing... comparing how many 4th gen that did 14's stock vs 5th is pointless when you have 10 trillion people here who actually mods and runs their 4th gens compared to probebly 15 ppl who does 5th gens, not to mention other than neal no one else came remotly close to 14.2 bone stock.... i wont compare a best driver time either... the average good driver is doing 15.2 in a 4th gen vs 14.9 in a 5th so yea how often will you see someone post in here about "yea my 4th gen 5spd just did a 14.2 stock at the track" vs yeah my 5th gen 5spd did 14.9 stock at the track"??? really i cant speak on a 5spd behalf because im auto but i will stand by my point and fact that mod for mod a 5th gen is faster than a 4th gen period (i owned both) and unless you own both and can prove to me otherwise all guesses, suggessions, and thoughts are irrelivant cause i personally proved it/THREAD
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but i guess faster is faster, though dandy did squeeze 270whp from the VQ30dek however there is no N/A 5th gen DE-K in the 13's 14.2 or 3 was the fastest i saw N/A

