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Old Nov 12, 2001 | 12:25 PM
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Need help with TIRES

I have a 97 SE with Yokohama AVID V tires. I am considering replacing them with Toyo FZ4s. Has anybody used this tire before? If so, what is your feedback.

I would like to stay with a V rated tire b/c of sidewall stiffness. Are there any other recommendations of tires that you have liked that are V rated with M+S traction? This is a daily driver car with only slight modifications, so I need a balance of traction, tread life, and all season drivability.

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Old Nov 12, 2001 | 12:32 PM
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Search results for "FZ4"

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I prefer Michelin Pilot H4/V4 tires. Good overall compromise.
Old Nov 12, 2001 | 12:39 PM
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Search results for "FZ4"

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I prefer Michelin Pilot H4/V4 tires. Good overall compromise.
Old Nov 12, 2001 | 01:00 PM
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How are they in the wet? I know Michelin's used to be horrible in the wet, but lasted forever.

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Search results for "FZ4"

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I prefer Michelin Pilot H4/V4 tires. Good overall compromise.
Old Nov 12, 2001 | 01:11 PM
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http://www.tirerack.com/tires/michel...pilotxgth4.jsp

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/michel...pilotxgtz4.jsp

Unfortunately, I don't have direct experience with these except to say the new Pilot series have a better wet reputation than previous-gen Michelin tires. That stated, I doubt you'll find a better wet-traction tire than the Avids that you have now. The BF Goodrich Comp T/A HR4 II tires have a good wet traction reputation as well, but the Yoko Avids are pretty much at the top for wet traction considerations.

You're trying to replace an already excellent tire, especially for the money. It will be difficult to do without some sort of compromise on your part, which will probably involve wet traction/handling......
Old Nov 12, 2001 | 01:33 PM
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Thanks again for the reply.

I did get about 42,000 miles out of the AVIDs and liked them overall. A lot of the local tire stores say that they have a better tire than the AVIDs (even the ones that can sell them), and two of them recommended the Toyo FZ4s. I am not familiar with them so thought I would investigate some more.

The AVIDs are the cheapest V rated tires that I have found and I was pretty happy overall. I just don't want to spend more and get less, so perhaps I should go back to the AVIDs.


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http://www.tirerack.com/tires/michel...pilotxgth4.jsp

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/michel...pilotxgtz4.jsp

Unfortunately, I don't have direct experience with these except to say the new Pilot series have a better wet reputation than previous-gen Michelin tires. That stated, I doubt you'll find a better wet-traction tire than the Avids that you have now. The BF Goodrich Comp T/A HR4 II tires have a good wet traction reputation as well, but the Yoko Avids are pretty much at the top for wet traction considerations.

You're trying to replace an already excellent tire, especially for the money. It will be difficult to do without some sort of compromise on your part, which will probably involve wet traction/handling......
Old Nov 12, 2001 | 08:01 PM
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Re: Need help with TIRES

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Old Nov 12, 2001 | 08:17 PM
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Re: Re: Need help with TIRES

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RE950
I like the 950 a lot, but am concerned about going from a V rated tired to an H rated tired. The 950s only come in H. I am worried that I will not get the stiffness out of the sidewalls during cornering.

Thoughts? Has anyone downgraded from an H rated to V rated tire and noticed any difference?

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Old Nov 12, 2001 | 09:15 PM
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I just put on RE950s last week. So far, better handling then stock Toyos, but not enough experience with them yet... One thing that I might have noticed though, is that they so far seem to be noisier, a different sound that is louder for now...
I got them for $110/each including mounting.
Anyone know how long they should last, if I rotate them every 10K??
Old Nov 13, 2001 | 05:42 AM
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Originally posted by Chuvak
I just put on RE950s last week. So far, better handling then stock Toyos, but not enough experience with them yet... One thing that I might have noticed though, is that they so far seem to be noisier, a different sound that is louder for now...
I got them for $110/each including mounting.
Anyone know how long they should last, if I rotate them every 10K??

Did you have H or V rated Toyos from the factory?
Old Nov 13, 2001 | 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by GVW



Did you have H or V rated Toyos from the factory?
The stock Toyos were H rated, pretty sure about that. Do some have stock that are V rated??
I didn't want to pay too much, V rated I think are a bit more $

Also, does V or H make a difference in being a true All Season tire, I figured V rated being more of a sport tire, would not be as good for All Season...
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Re: Re: Re: Need help with TIRES

Thoughts? Has anyone downgraded from an H rated to V rated tire and noticed any difference?[/QUOTE]
I doubt you'll notice anything. Just as long as you get the manufacturer-recommended size, not a 2 inch bulge on each side of the wheel
Old Dec 12, 2001 | 08:37 AM
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Bridgestone RE950s

After dilly-dallying about whether or not I'd go with a summer/winter setup, I put on RE950s after 2 years with Dunlop SP Sport 5000 (W Rated).

My big problem with the SP5Ks were snow performance. They're the best rated performance all-seasons in snow, but I got stuck. I decided that I didn't want to do that again.

The RE950s are brand-new, but they are pretty amazing. The short version is that I don't miss the SP Sport 5000s. The RE950s cost a tiny bit more, but I should get another 50% treadlife.
I can't really get them to chirp off the line, and they hold really well around turns. No real rain to speak of yet, but so far so good on wet ground. Snow's right around the corner, so we'll see. I was debating going with the Dunlop Sport A2s based on Tire Rack ratings, but calling them up, 2 different reps steered me clear, and to the Bridgestones. They suggest that the A2s are more of a Touring tire, and the Bridgestone Revo Turanza Zs are pretty awesome there (but expensive, otherwise I would have tried them)

So let's see, Bridgestone has S03s, RE730s, RE950s, Turanza Revo Zs, Blizzak LM-22...
All at the top or near the top of their respective performance tire categories. Pretty tough lineup to beat.

On another note, with my Wife's SVT, we went from stock G-Force KDW to BFG Comp T/A VR4. I could notice the difference in dry, not really in wet, but the snow difference was amazing. At that time they were on special in the required size and it was a no-brainer. Best bargain tire purchase I've made.

All that is to say that I wouldn't be afraid to step down to a lower speed rating especially if it's surveyed to be a top-notch handler

Originally posted by GVW


I like the 950 a lot, but am concerned about going from a V rated tired to an H rated tired. The 950s only come in H. I am worried that I will not get the stiffness out of the sidewalls during cornering.

Thoughts? Has anyone downgraded from an H rated to V rated tire and noticed any difference?

thanks.
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