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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 07:31 AM
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need a trans for my car what will fit?

I have searched the .org and found incomplete answers to most of my questions. I have a 95 maxima 5 speed built in 7-94. i have been looking for a used transmission i have seen pre 12/94 and post 1/95 options.

#1 what is the diffrencein the 2?

#2 can i use a 1/95+ trans in my car?

#3 i also saw a quick post saying that a 5th gen trans is a direct bolt in for our

#4 4th gens how true is this?

#5 can i use my stock clutch and axles for the 5th gen "sawp"?

#6 is the 5th gen trans any better then the 4th gen?

#7 My car has a non locking diff is a trans with the locking diff a direct bolt in? if not what needs to be changed to make it work?

the reasion i think i need a whole new trans is because the input shaft bearing went out and broke part of the case where the throw out bearing slides. with the transmission out of the car you can roll it around and hear parts inside rattling around (not good in my book). So far i have only been able to find 2 5 speeds for 4th gens at junk yards for $600 and $675. i have how ever found one for a 2001 max for $475 so if it will fit with my clutch and stock axles ill get that one.

thanks for your help and sorry about the long post
Old Aug 18, 2009 | 09:01 AM
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I have a better question...How did you make a thread with only 10 posts?

You need to search and read more.
Old Aug 18, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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yea i would suggest you search some more too. the relevancy button is your friend, and also check out the regional section.
Old Aug 18, 2009 | 09:14 AM
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wow this forum is making me want to sell my car. no one here is willing to help me they all just tell me to search. if you cant read my 1st post it says that i have searched and can not find the answers that i need. so if your not going to answer my questions please dont comment thanks! i searched and found one post that says nothing more then 5th gen trans is a direct bolt in. but i jst wanted a 2nd openion before i go blow almost $500 on a trans that needs other parts to fit. when he said it was a direct bolt in that just tells me that it will bolt to the block. can i use my 4th gen clutch with the 5th gen trans? can i use both of my 4th gen axles with the 5th gen trans? i need more details on the swap before i do it. if you can find posts on the swap then post a link but i cant find them.

as for the 10 posts at one point i was up to 20 but for some reason it came back down to 10 now every post i make says 10.
Old Aug 18, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...r-4th-gen.html

heres a real good website to get ideas for pricing http://car-part.com

http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...y-my-95-a.html

http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...-possible.html

that legit took me 5 minutes and all i typed into the search bar was "5 spd tranny" then picked the 4th gen forum and sorted it by relevancy.
Old Aug 18, 2009 | 10:34 AM
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I'll give ya a hand. Any 4th gen 5 speed tranny will fit any 4th gen. Same with the 3.0L 5th gen.

The difference comes in when you have an hlsd or lsd tranny. If you yourself do not ahve a locking differential, then you need to get one of those tranny without one.

OR

you can get one with the locking diff and you would have to buy a driver side axel which is the real difference in the two. Hope that helps.

And how the hell did you post a thread with only 10 posts???
Old Aug 18, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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Last time I did a parts cross reference at my old job I got this: 95-99 Maxima and 96-98 i30 should be direct swap.
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 07:57 AM
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thanks threepoint0 and bassbreaker thats what i was wanting to know. i searchend a d and searched but i could not find anything on the swap other than a post saying it will bolt up. i used car-part all the time its good for parts cross refercencing most of the time. i found a 2002 trans with non locking diff for $499 vs $600 for a 95. everything i see says a 2k and a 2k1 trans will fit they say nothing about the 2k2 trans but ill assume they are the same since their still a 5th gen right?
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Shift_Knob
thanks threepoint0 and bassbreaker thats what i was wanting to know. i searchend a d and searched but i could not find anything on the swap other than a post saying it will bolt up. i used car-part all the time its good for parts cross refercencing most of the time. i found a 2002 trans with non locking diff for $499 vs $600 for a 95. everything i see says a 2k and a 2k1 trans will fit they say nothing about the 2k2 trans but ill assume they are the same since their still a 5th gen right?

not necessarily, they came with a 3.5L and a slightly different trans. I bought my trans off car-part for $400 shipped to my door. Keep looking.
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 08:00 AM
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Nope , the 2k2 is a 6sp not a 5sp so you would need flywheel, shifter assembly, shifter cables, clutch , axles, tranny mount and a few more items. You need to search for 1995-2001 manual transmissions.
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by kzoosho
Nope , the 2k2 is a 6sp not a 5sp so you would need flywheel, shifter assembly, shifter cables, clutch , axles, tranny mount and a few more items. You need to search for 1995-2001 manual transmissions.
Indeed, '95-'01. Simple as that.

Or, if you want to go 6MT... http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...edure-faq.html

Originally Posted by Bassbreaker
I'll give ya a hand. Any 4th gen 5 speed tranny will fit any 4th gen. Same with the 3.0L 5th gen.

The difference comes in when you have an hlsd or lsd tranny. If you yourself do not ahve a locking differential, then you need to get one of those tranny without one.
The 5MT is VLSD, not HLSD; HLSD started with the 6MT.
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 08:28 AM
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aww carp i thought i was getting lucky then yal go and shoot me down lol GEE tanks lol. i would love to do the 6 speed swap but i just dont have that much cash right now maybe next time i need a trans i will 6 speed it.

i know the VLSD is the viscus limited slip out of the I30 but what is a HLSD?

one of the big import only junk yards here told me that they never made a I30 only J30's i laughed and hung up lol
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 08:31 AM
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Any transmission from a 95-2001 model year maxima will work. If you end up with a VLSD transmission (sometimes called a 'locking diff' or 'viscous locking') transmission you will need to replace the driver's side axle with an axle designed for the VLSD trans. if you use a 2000-2001 transmission it will move the shifter about 1" from the position that a 95-99 transmission will, but it will work just fine, your shifter will just be closer to the shift boot trim surrounding it.
6 speed swap is possible but requires much more extensive modification.
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Shift_Knob
aww carp i thought i was getting lucky then yal go and shoot me down lol GEE tanks lol. i would love to do the 6 speed swap but i just dont have that much cash right now maybe next time i need a trans i will 6 speed it.

i know the VLSD is the viscus limited slip out of the I30 but what is a HLSD?

one of the big import only junk yards here told me that they never made a I30 only J30's i laughed and hung up lol
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Originally Posted by SpottyJ
I have an '02 Maxima w/ 6-spd and HLSD (Helical Limited Slip Differential).
Originally Posted by xraydoc99
Wanted to see if anyone knows if a HLSD helical limited slip differential can be added to a 2k2 or 2k3 6sp manual and if so an approximate cost.
Originally Posted by SR20DEN
HLSD is an acronym for Helical Limited Slip Differential.
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 08:33 AM
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Any transmission from a 95-2001 model year maxima will work. If you end up with a VLSD transmission (sometimes called a 'locking diff' or 'viscous locking') transmission you will need to replace the driver's side axle with an axle designed for the VLSD trans. if you use a 2000-2001 transmission it will move the shifter about 1" from the position that a 95-99 transmission will, but it will work just fine, your shifter will just be closer to the shift boot trim surrounding it.
6 speed swap is possible but requires much more extensive modification.
Although using a 4th gen shift yoke, you can return the shifter back to the OE position (if it bothers you).
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 08:41 AM
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Although using a 4th gen shift yoke, you can return the shifter back to the OE position (if it bothers you).
or cut and modify the shifter linkage. not sure if it needs to be longer or shorter but it sounds like it would need to be a little longer. so you cut it insert a peice of pipe or rod inside the linkage and re weld stuff like that is not hard for me to fab up. im used to fabricating body lifts for the "dunks" so they can fit their huge 26" rims under them. heck i fabed intake manifold for my moped out of a oil pump pick up tube from my lincoln motor i had. thats what makes modding a car fun is making the "square peg fit in the round hole".
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or cut and modify the shifter linkage. not sure if it needs to be longer or shorter but it sounds like it would need to be a little longer. so you cut it insert a peice of pipe or rod inside the linkage and re weld stuff like that is not hard for me to fab up. im used to fabricating body lifts for the "dunks" so they can fit their huge 26" rims under them. heck i fabed intake manifold for my moped out of a oil pump pick up tube from my lincoln motor i had. thats what makes modding a car fun is making the "square peg fit in the round hole".
And why exactly would you cut and weld a critical piece when you could spend 3 minutes to drive out a roll pin and swap the shift yokes?

Especially when you have both sitting right there in front of you...
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everything i read said that you have to take the y-pipe and crossmember off that goes under the motor to get the trans out. well my y-pipe and cross member is still in my car holding the motor in place and my trans is setting on the ground under the car. why just because "they" said it cant be done. "they also said the motor wont come out the top of a lincoln Mark VIII and i did that too.
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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yes i prob would just switch yokes but im just saying everything can be fixed with out too much trouble.
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Originally Posted by Shift_Knob
everything i read said that you have to take the y-pipe and crossmember off that goes under the motor to get the trans out. well my y-pipe and cross member is still in my car holding the motor in place and my trans is setting on the ground under the car. why just because "they" said it cant be done. "they also said the motor wont come out the top of a lincoln Mark VIII and i did that too.
No idea where you're reading, but none of that is necessary at all to remove the trans.
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this says to take it out http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/805
and so does the haynes maunal i have for the car they both say to remove the cross member and y-pipe and support the motor with a jack and a block of wood.
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Originally Posted by Shift_Knob
this says to take it out http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/805
and so does the haynes maunal i have for the car they both say to remove the cross member and y-pipe and support the motor with a jack and a block of wood.
Removing the crossmember makes it easier, but it's hardly necessary. It's just like removing the UIM/LIM to change the KS; necessary to do it properly, but not necessary to get it done.
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I have yet to drop a y pipe to do a transmission. I do how ever drop the cross member so i can get a better angle on the tranny. Sounds like you have alot more reading to do.
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that said, removing a ypipe and cross member takes all of about 15 minutes, if that. if you can get a good angle on everything without removing those parts, go for it, but if not, it's hardly difficult to remove them to get a better angle at things.
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
that said, removing a ypipe and cross member takes all of about 15 minutes, if that. if you can get a good angle on everything without removing those parts, go for it, but if not, it's hardly difficult to remove them to get a better angle at things.
Indeed. Personally I drop the Y just to get easier access to the axle support bolts.
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What's been said by pmohr and Nealoc187 is all true and valid.

I will add one thing - 4th and 5th gen 5 speeds are known for premature bearing wear, particularly on the differential bearings. If you buy a used 5 speed transmission you should absolutely take off the housing, lift out the diff, and inspect the bearings before putting it into the car. If you haven't done transmission work just take it to a transmission shop and they can do an inspection like that for under $100. There are just way too many shot 5 speeds floating around out there to risk it.

As for the 5th gen and 4th gen transmissions, I have yet to find a significant difference between the two. The ratios are the same, axles and gears are the same, the shift yokes are slightly different. That's all. The only differentiating feature for these bolt-in options is open diff or VLSD. IMHO, the VLSD is good but not great - if you want to make a great 5 speed transmission you should get your hands on a Quaife differential that gets installed into an open diff 5 speed.

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i finley found a trans for my car $535 with tax out the door i picked it up yesterday and its now setting under the car i will start the install here soon. some of the fluid leaked out and it looks alot better then what came out of my car. my broke trans fluid was all gray and full of metal shavings the fluid out of the "new" trans is nice and clear brown. also for that $535 i got a new good trans mount, shift fork, throw out bearing, and all senders my trans mount came out in 2 pieces.
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What year is the tranny from? Mileage? Warranty? Installing a new clutch? Using GL-4 ONLY gear lube? Got new axle seals? How does the neutral safety switch look like? Just a few things to check over before you start.
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is the helical limited slip differential i locking or non locking
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is the helical limited slip differential i locking or non locking
HLSD isn't 'locking', but if you're looking for a trans or parts, most call it locking.
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