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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 06:00 AM
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Mind-numbing results

yesterday at Napierville dragway.

12degrees outside, back wind. 4th gen 99ES 5spd swap, injen CAI intake, 2.5 mandrel exhaust, stage 3 copper-ceramic clutch, 2000VI swap with 4600 opening. VQ30DE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4 passes, 14.7 at 94.55mph 9.7second 1/8mile, 2.4 60foot pretty plausible, slippery track...

the last pass the car done: 13.7 at104mph... 9.0 1/8mile, 2.20 60foot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOW can it happen??? how the driver cut a second and gain 10mph??? explain, i just dont understand...

I take credit by building the car but my friend drove for the time set.
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 12:25 PM
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possibly a wrong slip. either that or you shift pretty slow
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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yea, its the wrong timeslip, a 104mph doesnt add up with a DE motor and 13.7 with those mods, Ghostmax 13.6 run with a de-K motor didnt even tap that much IIRC, it might of though
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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not possible. wrong slip or messed up timing.
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 01:04 PM
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you're one hell of a driver! speaking of messed up timings.. i ran a 8.xx in my 02 before in the 1/4 mile
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 01:36 PM
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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I had a 1.4 60' time once back when I was N/A. How's that for wrong times?
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 03:40 PM
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with crappy finished winter tires like he did??? sure not. Its not to remove or bash the time he did, its just to understand how it can happen??

Had to talk to Jime to understand what happened. Its like, if you take into consideration to get better ET, you gotta have more power OR a better standing start. From 14.7 to 13.7 with the exact same setup and tires, 95mph to 104mph, the distance have to be longer to get that trap speed or already accelerating before the starting line...
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Gemner
possibly a wrong slip. either that or you shift pretty slow
2 different cars, VQ'ed ad I builded both of them.

Hard to believe that our friend was this fast, minus that he doesnt have a UDP like VQ'ed and he still have all the A\C stuff.

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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 06:10 PM
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http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3850124/1

See the car, the engine setup, the tires... and the timeslip.
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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Still thinking about it...

here's the paper sheet.



And if car numbers were inverted in the lanes... it would make sence. Our friend(#326) is a noob, 1st drag day, he had is share of red lights, this sunday.

Plus, the times on the left side is more like a bad time for him... slippery start and around 94mph... with a red light on this one.
Other than that he managed to get a 14.7xx as a best time... so a 10 mph gain and a full second faster would be jaw dropping or impossible.

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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 04:33 AM
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thanks for the link, Claude.
Old Apr 13, 2010 | 04:46 AM
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Good your getting some track'ing done. but sad to say, that is a faulty slip. You realize how hard it is for someone to gain a full second? Some spend hundreds of dollars in mods just to gain 1 second, specially all motor.

To give you an idea, with roughly around 280whp on my turbo VQ30 a couple years ago, I ran 13.8 @ 105mph, with a 2.278. no way you'd run the same trap with almost 100HP less.
Old Apr 13, 2010 | 09:16 AM
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YEAH, that's what we tried to figure, the power differential to determine how much was needed to achieve that speed. thanks streetz!
Old Apr 13, 2010 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by streetzlegend
To give you an idea, with roughly around 280whp on my turbo VQ30 a couple years ago, I ran 13.8 @ 105mph, with a 2.278. no way you'd run the same trap with almost 100HP less.
thats not really a good comparison though. turbo power is way off what NA power is. i didnt have any trouble running 13.8 with 2.20 60s at 230whp.
Old Apr 13, 2010 | 04:51 PM
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thats not really a good comparison though. turbo power is way off what NA power is. i didnt have any trouble running 13.8 with 2.20 60s at 230whp.
me neither
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
me neither
3.5L NA OR 3.0L F/I???
Old Apr 15, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by VQ'ed
3.5L NA OR 3.0L F/I???
in profile and in sig.... anyways 3.5 NA
Old Apr 16, 2010 | 04:00 PM
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fine, so imagine getting 13.7@104 3.0L NA!!!!, just impossible like everyone agrees.
It might have been the guy in the tower just forgot to change numbers on timeslips between runs.
Old Apr 16, 2010 | 04:53 PM
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13.7 isnt impossible with a 4th gen, just 13.7@104... doesnt add up
Old Apr 16, 2010 | 05:14 PM
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Why would you even consider that the 13.7@104 was the correct time for your car when you can look at that time slip and compare the left lane times to your own, then piece together what happened? It seems pretty obvious the lanes were switched and your buddy ran a 15.3@94 with a 2.6 '60 foot, whereas you ran a 14.7@94 with a 2.4 '60 foot.

Mind-numbing, indeed.
Old Apr 24, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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13.7@104 feels like one of my 4th gen 3.5 timeslips. I went 13.78@104.12 last spring with the 3.5. 60 foot was a 2.31. 9 flat in the 1"8th.
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