Any one have really bad experiences with RSB?
Any one have really bad experiences with RSB?
I know RSB provide more stiffness in the rear, thus producing more oversteer. But what i wonder is, has anyone had a dangerous situation occur because of a RSB? Say going at a curve at a speed and have the rear end just come around? or anything like that? thanks.
Re: Any one have really bad experiences with RSB?
I doubt it. The current aftermarket RSBs aren't stiff(thick) enough to produce oversteer in any dangerous amount. If you were in a fast turn and had to step off the gas suddenly, you might get the back end to turn around. But even then only in the wet would it really happen. I try to purposely get my 3-gen to rotate but it's difficult.
Originally posted by Gotrice4
I know RSB provide more stiffness in the rear, thus producing more oversteer. But what i wonder is, has anyone had a dangerous situation occur because of a RSB? Say going at a curve at a speed and have the rear end just come around? or anything like that? thanks.
I know RSB provide more stiffness in the rear, thus producing more oversteer. But what i wonder is, has anyone had a dangerous situation occur because of a RSB? Say going at a curve at a speed and have the rear end just come around? or anything like that? thanks.
Actually..
When I had my 3rd gen, I had the Suspension Tech. Front and rear sway bar set. One time I was trying to pass a truck before a curve came up. I was doing abut 85 past the truck and into the curve, the car felt stable, so I continued on. It was Morning time, so it must have been raining the night before. As I went around the ramp, I drove on a large wet spot in the road and the rear-end came swinging out. It was easy to control, so I just went around the curve in a four-wheel drift. Scared the s**ts out of me though!!
Re: Actually..
If the rear end came out that bad, it would have been really hard to control. Did just the rear hit the wet spot? You let off the gas or power on the gas to control the rear? If you went around the turn in a 4-wheels drift, that sounds neutral to me. And that's how I would want to go around turns! hehe
Originally posted by NightRider
When I had my 3rd gen, I had the Suspension Tech. Front and rear sway bar set. One time I was trying to pass a truck before a curve came up. I was doing abut 85 past the truck and into the curve, the car felt stable, so I continued on. It was Morning time, so it must have been raining the night before. As I went around the ramp, I drove on a large wet spot in the road and the rear-end came swinging out. It was easy to control, so I just went around the curve in a four-wheel drift. Scared the s**ts out of me though!!
When I had my 3rd gen, I had the Suspension Tech. Front and rear sway bar set. One time I was trying to pass a truck before a curve came up. I was doing abut 85 past the truck and into the curve, the car felt stable, so I continued on. It was Morning time, so it must have been raining the night before. As I went around the ramp, I drove on a large wet spot in the road and the rear-end came swinging out. It was easy to control, so I just went around the curve in a four-wheel drift. Scared the s**ts out of me though!!
Yeah, I still love the way my 3rd gen felt in comparison to the 4th gen. My 4th gen has almost everything, FSTB, Coilovers, RSB, and still doesn't have the control that my 3rd gen had. When the rear came out, I just gave it a little gas to keep the front end in tact and steered into the turn. The drifting just felt right. I can't even get the rear to kick out in my 4th gen.
With and without
My 97 SE stock (no bars or nothin) spun out on a 100 degree turn at 60. Rolled three times before finding a nice rock to bring things to a halt. It hurt and turned the car into a horseshoe. I had to climb out the sunroof. (Nitto's truly suck)
My new 97 SE has dunlop rubber and the sway bar and fstb. I am stupid (and don't like losing, even to rocks)and now take the same turn at 65 and the car is far more controlled. The back end can get a little goosey but not to the point of no return like a stock set up. The bars add an element of control since they stiffen up the chassis. Still when its wet I take it easy and dont push it if I don't have a bail out lane or area I can gain control again. I'm not that great of a driver and my Max is to sweet a lady to treat that way.
My new 97 SE has dunlop rubber and the sway bar and fstb. I am stupid (and don't like losing, even to rocks)and now take the same turn at 65 and the car is far more controlled. The back end can get a little goosey but not to the point of no return like a stock set up. The bars add an element of control since they stiffen up the chassis. Still when its wet I take it easy and dont push it if I don't have a bail out lane or area I can gain control again. I'm not that great of a driver and my Max is to sweet a lady to treat that way.
I've had the rear-end try to come around on me in tight curves. Each time I was accelerating into the curve when I suddenly discovered it transitioned into a much tighter radius. Out stepped the rear-end.
But, every time I was able to recover instantly by steering with the accelerator pedal. Well, maybe not instantly. I'm sure I said a very choice word or two before I reacted. But once you make the save, you can re-apply the gas and push it back to the limit the rest of the way through the curve. Yee-hah!
But, every time I was able to recover instantly by steering with the accelerator pedal. Well, maybe not instantly. I'm sure I said a very choice word or two before I reacted. But once you make the save, you can re-apply the gas and push it back to the limit the rest of the way through the curve. Yee-hah!
Originally posted by bullseye
I've had the rear-end try to come around on me in tight curves. Each time I was accelerating into the curve when I suddenly discovered it transitioned into a much tighter radius. Out stepped the rear-end.
But, every time I was able to recover instantly by steering with the accelerator pedal. Well, maybe not instantly. I'm sure I said a very choice word or two before I reacted. But once you make the save, you can re-apply the gas and push it back to the limit the rest of the way through the curve. Yee-hah!
I've had the rear-end try to come around on me in tight curves. Each time I was accelerating into the curve when I suddenly discovered it transitioned into a much tighter radius. Out stepped the rear-end.
But, every time I was able to recover instantly by steering with the accelerator pedal. Well, maybe not instantly. I'm sure I said a very choice word or two before I reacted. But once you make the save, you can re-apply the gas and push it back to the limit the rest of the way through the curve. Yee-hah!
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