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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 11:36 AM
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Need some advice before tuning

Alright guys I am hoping to get some advice from the experts nmex, sparks, unclejoe, moncef etc on what else I need to complete before going out and buying the stuff for tuning the car.

Right now I have full bolt ons, intake knights sri, cattaman ypipe/3inch catback, and NWP spacers/vias block plate. I am interested in pushing the HP as high as I can get it NA for now (I don't have the money for a forced induction set up yet).

The information seems contradictory about what else gives reliable gains other than cams+port and polish which I don't feel I have the mechanical skills to do. I guess I have done everything else on the car so I cant be too retarded... but still I'm not sure I want to open the motor up.

The other option would be a larger MAF+gutting the intake correct? Is this worth it to gain some hp? There was a thread I saw which set the set up I have now is better until you get to like 6K rpm and it only gains like 5hp?

Final question, is based on the TS reflash, can you do everything this does for the car with a UTEC?
Old Jul 21, 2010 | 11:49 AM
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No, the UTEC cannot alter CVTC curves like the TS does. Hate to be the bad guy, but the information is out there, and you need to research a little more.

All Motor forum is a place to start.

Also, typically, when people do Port &/or Polishing, they usually send it to a machine shop that specializes in such activities, hardly anyone here does it themselves.


These are the threads I find helpful, and my dyno threads have a lot of information regarding the intake manifold questions as well as other ? taht probably will pop up.


http://forums.maxima.org/dyno-discus...no-thread.html
http://forums.maxima.org/dyno-discus...242-238-a.html
http://forums.maxima.org/dyno-discus...-6300-rpm.html
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...iming-mod.html
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...s-reading.html
Old Jul 21, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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Thanks for the links nmex. Maybe I just wasn't searching for the right terms.

I wasn't looking to get spoon fed but If anyone wants to chime in with links to other useful threads I would really appreciate it.

edit As for the Port and Polish my uncle has the equipment to do it

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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by crystalline
Thanks for the links nmex. Maybe I just wasn't searching for the right terms.

I wasn't looking to get spoon fed but If anyone wants to chime in with links to other useful threads I would really appreciate it.

edit As for the Port and Polish my uncle has the equipment to do it
I'm sure you've read Moncef's tuning thread, that's a good read there too.

Before removing metal, I'd do all I could with the electronics first, most namely fuel & timing.
Old Jul 21, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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OP are you really that committed to dumping all that cash into a VQ motor and still stay N/A?
you have a really nice car and if i were you i'd just make the car shine and save the cash for another car that has serious potential.
Old Jul 21, 2010 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 5 ltr. beater
OP are you really that committed to dumping all that cash into a VQ motor and still stay N/A?
you have a really nice car and if i were you i'd just make the car shine and save the cash for another car that has serious potential.
i agree

my 3.5 was leaking oil and I had everything priced out to rebuild the engine (pistons, cams, etc) and then tune it...decided that I didnt think it was worth spending that much money on a FWD car..there is only so much power it can handle...money went to the Xterra

kept the car for another year enjoying what it had to offer with the mods i already had
Old Jul 21, 2010 | 04:18 PM
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The OPs car doesn't burn oil. No need for discouraging words. Not like he wants an ugly body kit or to paint his car pink. He's going for more power and doing it right. You wouldn't dare say the same to NmexMAX or Deckdout2, haha.
Old Jul 21, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by zero2sixtyZ
The OPs car doesn't burn oil. No need for discouraging words. Not like he wants an ugly body kit or to paint his car pink. He's going for more power and doing it right. You wouldn't dare say the same to NmexMAX or Deckdout2, haha.
not discouraging...just another point of view
Old Jul 21, 2010 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by zero2sixtyZ
You wouldn't dare say the same to NmexMAX or Deckdout2, haha.

id probably tell them the same thing and they would agree. perfect example would be my two cars. if for example say i dump 5k into my EVO and 5k into my max,......ill let you guess which one would be a more worthwhile performance investment.
Old Jul 21, 2010 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 5 ltr. beater
OP are you really that committed to dumping all that cash into a VQ motor and still stay N/A?
you have a really nice car and if i were you i'd just make the car shine and save the cash for another car that has serious potential.
I understand this point so thus I am interested in finding out how much hp/tq the remaining mods add + the price thus leading me to decide which I would like to do to the car. I have access to all the tools+labor for free so I doubt it will break the bank unless I decided to go totally nuts or if i bought a turbo kit.

edit: my car does not burn oil or have any problems currently other than header codes for the GD sensors sitting under my hood!
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by crystalline
I understand this point so thus I am interested in finding out how much hp/tq the remaining mods add + the price thus leading me to decide which I would like to do to the car. I have access to all the tools+labor for free so I doubt it will break the bank unless I decided to go totally nuts or if i bought a turbo kit.

edit: my car does not burn oil or have any problems currently other than header codes for the GD sensors sitting under my hood!
IMO, I've reached the point of no return.

Car's are not an investment, they're a hobby, never any monetary returns, just personal gratitude and fun. I wouldn't even dare or try to look back and see how much I've spent, nor compare the pluses or minuses. Sure, I coulda had a 'vette, or something else and be 6x as fast/powerful, but that's not the path I chose, wrong or right in anyone's opinion. Short statement, do you want ... but after a certain point ... gotta stick with it and make it worth it to .. ahh you.
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
just personal gratitude and fun. I wouldn't even dare or try to look back and see how much I've spent
I realized that when I sold the maxima...got less than I owed...and I lost all the money I had put in to it...but I didnt look at it that way...I realized that in return for the money, I enjoyed the hell out of it for 3 years
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 09:30 AM
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Do you really only have a y-pipe?? It seems strange that you'd be looking at doing all these other things to increase hp when you missed THE biggest one for the 5.5 gen. HEADERS!
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by OP's Mod list
2002 SE 6MT - Mods - Cattman Headers/Y pipe/Fastcat/Catback, SRI, NWP VIAS Block Plate, NWP Spacers, NWP Engine Torque Link, ES Shifter Bushings, ES Sway-bar Bushings, ES Motor Mounts, Eibachs on Illuminas, Racing Line FSTB, Sub-frame Collars, Stillen RSTB
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Car's are not an investment, they're a hobby, never any monetary returns, just personal gratitude and fun. I wouldn't even dare or try to look back and see how much I've spent, nor compare the pluses or minuses. Sure, I coulda had a 'vette, or something else and be 6x as fast/powerful, but that's not the path I chose, wrong or right in anyone's opinion. Short statement, do you want ... but after a certain point ... gotta stick with it and make it worth it to .. ahh you.
Just about the most sane thing I've ever read in the 5th gen forum.

I have to remember these words should ever I make the "save your money" suggestion, because I've done that before, too.

Very well said, NmexMAX.
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 11:52 AM
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what im trying to point out to the OP, is that he has a safe, reliable and fairly quick max. to go and spend thousands of $ more to mybe gain a sec or more in 1/4 isn't really worth it, and as many of die hard maxima owners have been down that road before and have eventually regretted it.
i love my max and im gonna keep her fairly stock or lightly modded as long as i have her because its a fun ride and very dependable.
and if im gonna dump thousands into a car, i bought another car that will reflect the money i dump into it with endless possibilities. i just figured that maybe the OP needs a different point of view once in awhile.
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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There is only so much you can do to any engine (assuming your leaving the inside alone). It's easier to go too far & make 'em run worse. All your mods are practical. Keep it simple.
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 5 ltr. beater
id probably tell them the same thing and they would agree. perfect example would be my two cars. if for example say i dump 5k into my EVO and 5k into my max,......ill let you guess which one would be a more worthwhile performance investment.
That's the most unfair and bias post ever... I dumped 5K into just buying my maxima vs an evo for more than twice the cost, and when the evo and the maxima break down we'll see which one you gotta dump more money into... all this is pointless to compare a boosted car vs a grocery getter c'mon dude............ if that's the case why was your money on the evo and why not go domestics as they are faster... see how pointless these things can get???
Old Jul 23, 2010 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
That's the most unfair and bias post ever... I dumped 5K into just buying my maxima vs an evo for more than twice the cost, and when the evo and the maxima break down we'll see which one you gotta dump more money into... all this is pointless to compare a boosted car vs a grocery getter c'mon dude............ if that's the case why was your money on the evo and why not go domestics as they are faster... see how pointless these things can get???

unfair and biased? how so?

im talking about mod money....not price tag for a car.

my situation with the 5k dollar price tag in mods was just an example. my argument could've represented anyone else in general. at the time of the post all i had was my example. just trying to point out to the OP that he should put his money away for a car that has serious potential, instead of going down a road that others have been down and regretted spending thousands of dollars just to gain a sec and a few more mph in the 1/4.

...and you name me one domestic car with 4 doors that can cut low 11's @120+ mph with under 5k in mods. since domestics are....faster...

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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 10:12 AM
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There is only so much you can do to any engine (assuming your leaving the inside alone). It's easier to go too far & make 'em run worse. All your mods are practical. Keep it simple.
Run worse.
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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 10:42 PM
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I love my Maxima wont sell it Modding it is fun soon will get another car to do the same but for the Max just going with simple bolt ons exhaust, intake, headers, all the basic's wanted to go Cams and all that but nah to me it's cool to look stock and smoke some Muscle cars but really like those Camaro SS!! But your cash do what you want with it if you got it F##k It!!
Old Aug 21, 2010 | 10:53 PM
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to the op...

You can source together a complete turbo kit for your car for under 2k in parts...and since you mentioned u have access to tools and labor free you should consider going that route
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