Ok,

This thread is as much curiosity as planning. As I read through threads by MoncefA33 and others, I found questions, but really no answers. Has anyone actually installed the 02+ Max/03-04z cams in a DE or DEK yet?

The only number I saw was a reference to a 244ish # on the revups


Any input or insight appreciated.


DC

 

In all honestly the reason why those threads lead to dead ends are because for the trouble of doing cams on these cars, bumping to stock 3.5DE cams are not really worth it....its an easy 16 hour job with the engine in the car. Not too mention the Juice won't be worth the squeeze in the end.

Revup would be the better choice if you are gonna want to take the time to dive into the motor. 3.0 guys have had good results with them, Crusher is a current member with a 3.0 and revup cams you can probably expect to see some decent numbers for 3.0 with them and a proper tune.

At this point messing with a 3.0 has been exhausted although there are few die hards out there for them and because they are mad cheap, 3.5 swap would the choice long before messing with cams. Or 3.5 with cams

 

good info, clean grand prix in the sig (GTP?)

I guess with that point of view if I get too bored i'll spend a few hundred and two hours on the giggle gas and quality tune. sound like far better bang for your buck.

 

Yeah one of my friends pulled 254whp tuned on e-manage blue with a stock rev limit on a DEK using the 350Z RevUp cams. The RevUp cams would be the only stock 3.5 cams worth putting in a DEK, IMO, because the regular DE cams aren't much more aggressive.

I'd say instead of getting RevUps get some gnarly HKS, Nismo, Tomei cams.

 

yup...GTP Comp G and thank you

I'd wait for some nice used cams on 350z forums, revups pop up for 200-300$ most the time. If you wanna go the extra mile, sometimes used aftermarkets pop up for 700-800. Depends what you wanna do...

I could do a 3.0, 11:1 compression, revups, ported heads, 350z plenum with addons, headers. Would give them 3.5 boys a run but at that point it your better off joining them and dropping in a 3.5 LOL

 

I'm already giving (RWD) 3.5 boys a run

 

which cam adapters and cam timing are you using

 

i've been doing that since the y-pipe...the 350z doesnt suprise me anymore...i want to test a 370 on the highway now

 

If all you have is a y-pipe and the Z is trying it won't be pretty

 

would be or wouldnt be?

just saying on a highway pull...my 3.0 and the 350z...he wasnt pulling away, thats all i'm saying

 

I'm on stock cams, for now............

People can use the Stephen Max cam adapters though.

 

MoncefA33
On a dyno... To the wheels?

That is roughly 287 at the crank using 18% drivetrain loss. Pretty impressive by my standards. or a gain of about 45-50 hp over stock deks.

If I could get similar results with the revup, that would be good enough for me.

 

Yeah that's WHP on a Dynojet. He also had basic bolt ons like intake, headers, and a cat-back exhaust. With a GReddy EU it would be a lot nastier considering there's a lot left after the stock redline and remapping the timing will gain quite a bit of power with different cams.

 

Weak

 

What about JWT? No cam love

 

post corrected would not be pretty

I own a G35 coupe with test pipes, intake spacer, revup airbox and a uprev tune and I test drove a 370z and I think it would beat my car on the highway but from light to light my G35 would win.

 

JWT is what I want!

 

from the eyes...all i saw this guy has was at least an axleback, more than likely a full catback...and in my 3rd gear pull(which at that time i was on my oem clutch flywheel setup was a bad pull) he didnt go nowhere, and thats truth.

if he had what you had done to yours...he would have beat me

again this was a highway roll....

yamamma lol

 

it will be cheaper and easier to do a 3.5 swap.

 

Good to know, I'd consider the swap,but dont stock 3.5'smake less than 244whp with bolt ons? At any rate if the swap is my eventual planI'll probably pick up a cheap used nitrous kit with a 50 shot and drive it til it dies.

...then after death I have a reason to drop in the 3.5 and maybe cam it while its out. That will be a ways off though a s my car is at 96k right now.

I just figured it would be a nice boost as I cant justify ditching my black on black one owner2k I30 for an I35 for ~25hp.

 

not all 3.0s with rev-ups are gonna make 240whp......i have rev-ups in a 3.0 with out a tune i seriously cant be over 200whp.

 

Wow,
I've seen your car progress over time (looking good by the way, love the black motif) you been around the board since I was driving the '97. Thats definitely food for thought. Consider the Average DEkis making around 185-190 range thats definitely discouraging. I would hope to make that with a Y pipe on a DEK

Thanks for the input
-DC

 

Hey I'm bumping this thread to correct my post.

the e-Manage blue is cheap anyways.

 

Since we have talked about the car back and forth and it has been debated how much gain comes from the REVUP's; Who did the 254whp run, do they still have the car? And I'm kinda shocked they havent chimed in yet.

If I could get some confirmation, this would def. be a winter/spring project.

Moncef, Does the guy still visit the .org?

 

I'll link him the thread so he can post more information if he wants.

 

put it like this. Tune will make or break ur car. Like i said i cant be over 200whp untuned(im pig rich, ECU is pulling timing, TPS is off) but once tuned im def looking forward to atleast a healthy 230whp.

 

I has JWT











































Uninstalled

 

This is exactly why I just read and dont post, and a lot of other looking at this thread wont either because some rather just keep info to themselves instead of being bashed or just dont care to tell there #'s.

Im guessing no one knows about the DE-K that ran 11s N/A?

and this is suppose to be a maxima support community... homos

Well atleast Manny n Moncef knows what im talking about

 

Some people just don't care

 

I would do the RevUps and tune it on an e-Ultimate, the cams themselves are pretty cheap, check the 350Z forums.

 

Any numbers for JWT cams in a DE-k?

When using any of the 3.5 cams with adapters in a 3.0, what is the cam timing? Advanced or retarded from stock?

 

Iron Lung ran the JWT 256s in his DE, picked up 23whp with no tune and stock rev limiter. He had I/H/E.

 

Did IronLungs have stock usim or mevi?

And jwt's are like 232. With some 256 power would be nice all across!

 

I'm not sure, I'd look at his old threads and see.

No they aren't. The S1s are 256 duration at minimum.

http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/wol..._CARD_VQ30.pdf

 

251whp/248tq JWT S1 DE-K
244whp/237tq Rev ups DE-K
239whp/233tq Stock cams DE-K

Any questions pm me

 

these are some great #'s what did he do to maintain the tq

 

not 254whp for the rev-ups in a DEK?