didnt know if this is the correct spot for the thread but they're similar to 3rd gens so..

Ive read some of them have a fold down rear seat and that its a direct replacement for the 3rd gen...but havnt been able to find pictures for proof

Theres a handful of Stanzas on cardomain with white-face 3rd gen gauges and they say its a direct swap...Ive also found a picture of a Stanza gauge that looks like it has some kind of digital tachometer, that or lack-there-of



heres one with an analog tachometer and cruise control on the steering wheel



the clock and some of the switches are the same (cruise control/defroster/etc) also the steering wheels are very close to the 240 wheel i put in my old 5spd

wondering if anyone has had one of these or is knowledgeable enough to prove/disprove the folding rear seat and if it is indeed some kind of digital tach

 

There is no tach at all, it's a just a piece of plastic used to fill the empty space. The steering wheels are not leather wrapped and are always faded when I see them at the junkyard. A lot of the switches are exactly the same, the hazard switch however is mounted horizontally on the Stanza, so the red triangle is rotated as well. Most of the interior is similar to the Max, but less robust, so I'm almost positive the rear seats would not be a direct replacement.

BTW, you have a PM

 

the first one looks like it has no tach but at the junkyard here theres lots of Stanzas and i have seen ones with tachs, the gauges look IDENTICAL to 3rd gen ones so im wondering if you can use them as well.

 

Aaron had a Stanza that he used to use as his DD for several years. Not sure if he still has it or if he's upgraded

 

found a picture of a stanza backseat, this is out of a 92 but does not fold...looks very similar to the 3rd gen



there were only 9 on autotrader between 89-92 im gonna spend some more time scrolling thru cardomains to see if I can find a folding one

 

Wifey had one a while back... a 91' I believe, no digi dash tach but the seats I believe folded down if I remember correctly. It was nicer than the Sentra of same year but deleting the Stanza for the Altima was an improvement as far as looks. The Stanza was a reliable vehicle...just as most Nissan's are vehicles you can depend on to start every morning no matter what Mother Nature throws at them.

 

Easy test would be to just go to the junkyard and swap seats between the Maxima and Stanza and see if they fit. As the Stanza was a smaller car I would THINK the back seat wouldn't be as wide, but the rear seat in that picture does look basically identical to the 3rd gen rear seat.

 

It does look the same, but it may or may not be as wide. That would be funny if it were the same rear seat. I don't know about the different fabric on the Stanza, though.

It might be easier to just measure the rear seat. Also, if anyone finds one at a junkyard, take out the lower section and measure the distance between the mounting holds on the bottom of the seat.

Just FYI, I think as far as Nissan is concerned the Stanza is an early Altima. My friend bought the very first Altima (1993?) brand new and in small writing on the trunk it said "Stanza" on it next to the Altima logo.

 

Even the owners manual wife's '97 Alty said Stanza/Altima on the cover......
not that it matters to anything else in the thread, just thought that was funny.

 

a guy i used to live with had a stanza id even been in it several times but I didnt have a 3rd gen at the time so i didnt pay much attention
he said hes pretty sure it was a 91 SE and he says the seats were rear fold..maybe its a 91 thing?

Even though the fabrics are different if you had a spare cloth backseat or 2 haha it wouldnt be hard to make match i dont think...unless you're thinking leather

Even if its a couple inches less wide if you were recovering it it wouldnt be hard to add some foam and try to match the shape of the 3rd gen

going to a U-Pull-It on tuesday..if they have any stanzas with backseats ill test fit them in a 3rd gen fer sure...if they have a rear folding one im taking it! gol dang.

 

BTW some European 3rd gens have factory fold-down seats, cant remember if the JDM models do

 

None of the European or JDM 3rd gens had them. Only the New Zealand assembled 3rd gens did, which at the time was the only country in the world assembling 3rd gens outside of Japan. For those that dont know, New Zealand is that little country down under next to Australia. The seat arrangement was designed by Nissan New Zealand and are the same set up as our locally assembled U11 Bluebird (same shape as US 2nd gen Maxima which I believe some have fold down seats) and B12? Sunny/pulsar/sentra range, so wouldnt have been too hard to adapt to fit a Maxima.

Not sure if this would be of any help, but the 60/40 fold down portion is bolted to the car independantly of the rest of the back rest. We got a version of your Stanza, but it was known here as the U12 Bluebird, and were the next step down price wise from a Maxima when new. Width wise, the cars are probably very similar, so go and measure to find out.

Heres some pics I posted ages ago, showing them at work, youll have to scroll about 1/2 way down.
http://forums.maxima.org/3rd-generat...ec-maxima.html

 

thats what i meant, i was getting European and NZ mixed up

 

i completely agree with hectic as being a previous owner of a 1991 stanza xe (r.i.p. murdered by a sebring). i believe the maxima has a slightly wider rear seat and my stanza had tweed seat that did not fold down

 

went to a couple yards yesterday: no stanzas, about 10 3rd gens, and 2 1st or 2nd gens; one of which being a wagon

I picked this up out of the 1st/2nd gen sedan, its 60/40 folding rear seat back









its not as tall; maybe an inch 1/2? its not as wide 1-2" but its a very close match, also the same design as the NZ seats

its a little lighter grey than the grey cloth in the 3rd gens, but overall not teribbly off, could also be recovered easily with a 3rd gen wrap

the mounting points are the same as the 3rd gen seat back, 3 tabs up top and 2 on the side bottoms. Instead of bolting it to the seat support behind the armrest like on the 3rd gen seat, the fold down has its own support "beam" that was bolted to the trunkwall/floor in the earlier maxima

I did test fit it in a 3rd gen while I was there, and at this time id like to say that its extremely difficult to remove a 3rd gen rear seat that somebodys already tried to remove incorrectly, aggravating as

only the top middle mounting tab will snap in the 3rd gen...the other 2 sit closer to the front seats and are farther out...but it didnt look bad thru the rear windshield (in the middle anyway) as far as butting up to the rear deck

with that in place the side bottom of seat sit about 6 inches away from where the bolts line up, however this seatback is flexible and wasnt hard to push down, the 3rd gen seat has more of a slant while this is more up/down

the GXE i was installing it in had a hump in the trunk that i didnt remove but if the fold down seats beam cant be bolted to the trunk floor it can definately be bolted to the trunkwall next to the cutout to the trunk.

I put the seat bottom back in and it really didnt look bad...maybe a half inch to 1.5" gap between the seat side and the weatherstripping at the doors; maybe not noticeable with the doors closed.
slightly larger gap between the seatbottom and the bottom of the seat back...although i couldnt see thru to the metal or anything
with the seat folded down it would almost seem to work better than the NZ seats since its shorter and still sits flush with the rear deck, so the fold-hinge sits a little higher than the seat bottom; allowing the seatbacks to lay completely level on the seat bottom, as to where the NZ seats seem to lay at a decent angle

however the fold seat does have a special armrest that is about 3 inches above the seat bottom when all the way down, about 1/3 the size of a 3rd gen one

 

 

 

So the Stanza seat doesn't require that support bar across the back like the Maxima?

It sure looks like the only difference on the seat is mainly just superficial padding on the ends. Are you going to get this recovered/padded?

 

the seat installed in the pictures is out of a 1st or 2nd gen maxima, never found any stanzas at the yard so im still curious about the stanza seat

this seat more or less has the same support bar but its apart of the fold down hinge part of the seat, and it bolts to the trunk floor so its the same idea just lower.

again this is a first or 2nd gen maxima seat and its in no way a direct fit, actually, the fold down part seems exactly the right size/height but overall it would take a little too much work to fatten the seatback and recover it to end up still having a seat that doesnt look like it belongs, also not very comfortable