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Old Dec 23, 2001 | 11:36 AM
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At last, a real altima dyno! 199HP & 218TQ

Just found it at freeshalloy.com. Heres the link: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~kevgrob/dyno/dynochart2.jpg , this was done it 4th gear. Looks about right for 240 Crank HP.



Any none broke 6spders want to reprersent?
Old Dec 23, 2001 | 11:58 AM
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Well in bonestock form, it looks liek the Altima is making as much power as the dynoed 6 speed Maxima. Now this really makes me wonder about the power rating of the Maxima.

Things to note:

1- The manifold switchover occurs at a low 3500-3800rpms
2- Peak hp is at 5600rpms (just like the 4th gen)
3- 6600rpm rev limiter (just like the 4th gen)
4- Peak torque 3600rpms (~600rpms lower than most 4th gens)
5- Torque holds on to about 4400rpms before dropping (very much like the 4th gen)

I'll still stand by my comments that redline shifts are pointless for the 3.5 VQ. Power peaks and curves are nearly the same for the 3.5 VQ as they are for the 95-99 VQ. The ideal shift points would be as follows:

1-2 6500
2-3 6100
3-4 5900

I think it's time for Ethan to dyno


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Old Dec 23, 2001 | 12:17 PM
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hmmm
interesting
Old Dec 23, 2001 | 12:21 PM
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SO I guess for the price, I should get a new altima instead of the new max and peace my old maxima...
Old Dec 23, 2001 | 12:22 PM
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yes (if the Alty is aesthically pleasing to you). Nice screen name too.
Old Dec 23, 2001 | 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by NickStam
yes (if the Alty is aesthically pleasing to you). Nice screen name too.
I like the Stillen pics of then new altima so I guess if it's possible for me to make a car look like that, i think it would be worth it. All the extra cash I would be spendin on a max I could immmediately spend on mods for the altima

and I like my screen name too, thanks
Old Dec 23, 2001 | 12:38 PM
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I'd much prefer to have the looks of the Altima and the IRS. But the Maxima's interior is very nice, plus the mild redo of the front end looks good. I just worry that if I got 2002 Maxima, I'd have to settel for the bumpy ride of the beam axle since I would have to lower the car. I waiting for some Altima guys to take their autos out to the track.


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Old Dec 23, 2001 | 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by Dave B
Well in bonestock form, it looks liek the Altima is making as much power as the dynoed 6 speed Maxima. Now this really makes me wonder about the power rating of the Maxima.

Dave
Have you seen a SAE corrected dyno of a 6spd max yet? Only one I saw was the one auto that dynoed in 2nd gear{189 HP and auto}, and then there was the one on the mustang dyno. So unless you have seen something I have not I have to ask, were do you come to the conclusion the altima is making as much power as the maxima?


I want to dyno my car but I have spent about $1500 in the last few weeks, so now it's time to recuperate . $125 a dyno at my local shop is a lot of money too.
Old Dec 23, 2001 | 01:07 PM
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Dave or anyone else who cares. When my max shifts from 2 to 3 {at redline} the RPM's start at 4600 RPM in 3rd.
Old Dec 23, 2001 | 01:42 PM
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$125 a dyno at my local shop is a lot of money too.
how much does the average dyno cost? for how many runs? never looked into it before.
Old Dec 23, 2001 | 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by Newman96SE


how much does the average dyno cost? for how many runs? never looked into it before.
Usually about $75 for 4-5 runs. The only dyno with in a 2 hour ride is a ford dealership which is about 5 mioles from me. I only get 3 runs there . Atleast the guy really know's what he is doing and is cool.
Old Dec 23, 2001 | 02:06 PM
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Right, but we still do not have a good maxima dyno.

Originally posted by Dave B
Well in bonestock form, it looks liek the Altima is making as much power as the dynoed 6 speed Maxima. Now this really makes me wonder about the power rating of the Maxima.

Things to note:

1- The manifold switchover occurs at a low 3500-3800rpms
2- Peak hp is at 5600rpms (just like the 4th gen)
3- 6600rpm rev limiter (just like the 4th gen)
4- Peak torque 3600rpms (~600rpms lower than most 4th gens)
5- Torque holds on to about 4400rpms before dropping (very much like the 4th gen)

I'll still stand by my comments that redline shifts are pointless for the 3.5 VQ. Power peaks and curves are nearly the same for the 3.5 VQ as they are for the 95-99 VQ. The ideal shift points would be as follows:

1-2 6500
2-3 6100
3-4 5900

I think it's time for Ethan to dyno


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Old Dec 23, 2001 | 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by emax95


Usually about $75 for 4-5 runs. The only dyno with in a 2 hour ride is a ford dealership which is about 5 mioles from me. I only get 3 runs there . Atleast the guy really know's what he is doing and is cool.
i will be dynoing mine after the 1st of the year at a dyno in worcester. i want to hae in intake and do two baselines and two with the intake.
Old Dec 23, 2001 | 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima88


i will be dynoing mine after the 1st of the year at a dyno in worcester. i want to hae in intake and do two baselines and two with the intake.

Great!
Old Dec 23, 2001 | 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by emax95



Great!
i want to get a cold air box setup, i've heard a couple people are looking to make one but i want it now.
Old Dec 23, 2001 | 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima88


i want to get a cold air box setup, i've heard a couple people are looking to make one but i want it now.
Then make your own! I like my little stillen intake because I can pop it on and off in 5 minutes, which is good if I have to go in for warranty work.
Old Dec 23, 2001 | 05:57 PM
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Let me ask this then. Were in Dallas can I get a Dyno?

I have a 11 days off from work and nothing much going on. I can come up with 100ish for the good of the community.
Old Dec 23, 2001 | 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by LaXor
Let me ask this then. Were in Dallas can I get a Dyno?

I have a 11 days off from work and nothing much going on. I can come up with 100ish for the good of the community.
www.dynojet.com , do you have a 02 6spd?
Old Dec 23, 2001 | 06:23 PM
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the altima is more expensive than the maxima
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I like the Stillen pics of then new altima so I guess if it's possible for me to make a car look like that, i think it would be worth it. All the extra cash I would be spendin on a max I could immmediately spend on mods for the altima

and I like my screen name too, thanks
Old Dec 23, 2001 | 06:36 PM
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6speed, who said anything about a six.

Yes i have six gears of pure enjoyment
Old Dec 23, 2001 | 07:24 PM
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Dave or anyone else who cares. When my max shifts from 2 to 3 {at redline} the RPM's start at 4600 RPM in 3rd.
Dropping to 4600rpms is too high. You want to be hitting around 4300-4400rpms. You're overshooting you 3rd gear. Trust me.


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Old Dec 23, 2001 | 07:29 PM
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Have you seen a SAE corrected dyno of a 6spd max yet? Only one I saw was the one auto that dynoed in 2nd gear{189 HP and auto}, and then there was the one on the mustang dyno. So unless you have seen something I have not I have to ask, were do you come to the conclusion the altima is making as much power as the maxima?
In bonestock form on a Mustang dyno, the 6 speed dynoed out at 191fwhp. With an intake & muffler it did 198fwhp. Supposedly the Mustang dynos are slightly more conservative (I've heard ~5% conservative). If that's the case, that puts the 6 speed Maxima at 200fwhp or exactly the same power as the Altima.

I hope to see more Maxima dynos soon, but I think the truth will hurt. I'm guessing we'll see about 0%-3% difference on the dyno with a Altima/Maixma (ie neglible).


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Originally posted by Dave B


In bonestock form on a Mustang dyno, the 6 speed dynoed out at 191fwhp. With an intake & muffler it did 198fwhp. Supposedly the Mustang dynos are slightly more conservative (I've heard ~5% conservative). If that's the case, that puts the 6 speed Maxima at 200fwhp or exactly the same power as the Altima.

I hope to see more Maxima dynos soon, but I think the truth will hurt. I'm guessing we'll see about 0%-3% difference on the dyno with a Altima/Maixma (ie neglible).


Dave
i hope not.
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In bonestock form on a Mustang dyno, the 6 speed dynoed out at 191fwhp. With an intake & muffler it did 198fwhp. Supposedly the Mustang dynos are slightly more conservative (I've heard ~5% conservative). If that's the case, that puts the 6 speed Maxima at 200fwhp or exactly the same power as the Altima.

I hope to see more Maxima dynos soon, but I think the truth will hurt. I'm guessing we'll see about 0%-3% difference on the dyno with a Altima/Maixma (ie neglible).


Dave
Listen! I said about 20x not to use those dyno numbers from the 6spd since they are not accurate! The dyno was incorrect in reading RPM and HP!!! The torque numbers of both the Altima and 6spd are the same and correct.
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Listen! I said about 20x not to use those dyno numbers from the 6spd since they are not accurate! The dyno was incorrect in reading RPM and HP!!! The torque numbers of both the Altima and 6spd are the same and correct.
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Originally posted by Dave B


In bonestock form on a Mustang dyno, the 6 speed dynoed out at 191fwhp. With an intake & muffler it did 198fwhp. Supposedly the Mustang dynos are slightly more conservative (I've heard ~5% conservative). If that's the case, that puts the 6 speed Maxima at 200fwhp or exactly the same power as the Altima.

I hope to see more Maxima dynos soon, but I think the truth will hurt. I'm guessing we'll see about 0%-3% difference on the dyno with a Altima/Maixma (ie neglible).


Dave
yea...and that same dyno under rated phat guy's 2K1 AE big time....
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That torque line is straight. Im not used to that much torque in my 98 Accord V6. Below is my dyno chart run #4 is with intake,exhuast and ignition and dyno#8 is with addition of headers and random cat. No correction factor that day..actual HP readings..190HP at 6,000 RMPs and 173Ibs at 5,400 RMPS.


My Dyno Chart -98 Accord V6
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