JWT Pop Charger vs Stillen High flow Air Intake
JWT Pop Charger vs Stillen High flow Air Intake
I spoke with Shawn from stillen and he said a +5hp gain by getting their Intake, but i was wondering if anyone had info on how much gain does the JWT Pop charger provide.
i'm doing research as we speak but wanting to know if anyone that has the JWT can tell me the pros/cons and the same if anyone has the stillen
i'm doing research as we speak but wanting to know if anyone that has the JWT can tell me the pros/cons and the same if anyone has the stillen
They are the same thing, same design, just a different color filter IIRC.
Search for threads on intakes, some say it is beneficial, others disagree. My vote is FI or go home though
Search for threads on intakes, some say it is beneficial, others disagree. My vote is FI or go home though
Iirc is if i recall correctly, and fi is forced induction (supercharged or turbo'd)...
As for the other statement on the intakes being identical, they aren't. Courtesy Nissan claims 4+ HP gain average. The jwt is twin cone and blue and the stillen is a single cone and red. Where there is a cap at the end of the stillen, jwt uses a reverse cone for more air flow. Also the jwt comes with a pretty large velocity stack where as i believe the stillen just has a standard filter and Maf adapter. Someone correct me if im wrong on that one.
Either way, this thread will stir up a buncha nonsense and most people with claim ebay for $15 or stock as superior... i personally will be going custom but will settle for jwt in the meantime...
As for the other statement on the intakes being identical, they aren't. Courtesy Nissan claims 4+ HP gain average. The jwt is twin cone and blue and the stillen is a single cone and red. Where there is a cap at the end of the stillen, jwt uses a reverse cone for more air flow. Also the jwt comes with a pretty large velocity stack where as i believe the stillen just has a standard filter and Maf adapter. Someone correct me if im wrong on that one.
Either way, this thread will stir up a buncha nonsense and most people with claim ebay for $15 or stock as superior... i personally will be going custom but will settle for jwt in the meantime...
Iirc is if i recall correctly, and fi is forced induction (supercharged or turbo'd)...
As for the other statement on the intakes being identical, they aren't. Courtesy Nissan claims 4+ HP gain average. The jwt is twin cone and blue and the stillen is a single cone and red. Where there is a cap at the end of the stillen, jwt uses a reverse cone for more air flow. Also the jwt comes with a pretty large velocity stack where as i believe the stillen just has a standard filter and Maf adapter. Someone correct me if im wrong on that one.
Either way, this thread will stir up a buncha nonsense and most people with claim ebay for $15 or stock as superior... i personally will be going custom but will settle for jwt in the meantime...
As for the other statement on the intakes being identical, they aren't. Courtesy Nissan claims 4+ HP gain average. The jwt is twin cone and blue and the stillen is a single cone and red. Where there is a cap at the end of the stillen, jwt uses a reverse cone for more air flow. Also the jwt comes with a pretty large velocity stack where as i believe the stillen just has a standard filter and Maf adapter. Someone correct me if im wrong on that one.
Either way, this thread will stir up a buncha nonsense and most people with claim ebay for $15 or stock as superior... i personally will be going custom but will settle for jwt in the meantime...
As far as the nonsense goes, LET IT BEGIN!!! =D
IIRC, lol, I'm using the jwt adaptor, and it's freakin huge diameter. Something about smoothing air so it flows faster. But I used it with Stillen filter. I know it's a stillen filter cuz it says stillen on the end cap. I'm pretty sure it's a jwt adaptor cuz I picked up from them...
Which is better? Iono, but my hybrid worked fine. And 5hp by itself probably isn't gonna do much. Sounds nice though, either way you go, even if you choose ebay.
Dr J
Which is better? Iono, but my hybrid worked fine. And 5hp by itself probably isn't gonna do much. Sounds nice though, either way you go, even if you choose ebay.
Dr J
Regarding the "FI or go home", it's actually a good point. If I could go back in time, I'd probably not have bought the intake and stayed stock. For my daily driving, I need more tq across the band. With the intake, it felt like I lost some of that. It was great when drag racing, auto-x, hot lapping, etc anything WOT nearing redline. But that's like, once a month, vs daily driving daily.
Again, when coupled with other mods, the gains are more significant. I didn't have any other mods that multiplied the benefits of intake.
BTW, I think I still have 1 more stillen filter fs.
Dr J
Again, when coupled with other mods, the gains are more significant. I didn't have any other mods that multiplied the benefits of intake.
BTW, I think I still have 1 more stillen filter fs.

Dr J
I am one of those guys Max_Dreamer is referring too, after trying out the stillen for a month and doing a little bit of studying on the subject, I say all velocity stacks are useless.
I have yet to try the JWT though, it has a dual element filter which should help a bit but it is not going to overcome to losses with a velo stack vs. non velo stack intakes.
Again, to help the OP, I say go with JWT, if you crave that overpriced overpraised filter.
I have yet to try the JWT though, it has a dual element filter which should help a bit but it is not going to overcome to losses with a velo stack vs. non velo stack intakes.
Again, to help the OP, I say go with JWT, if you crave that overpriced overpraised filter.
autozone:
dual cone filter in color of your choice - $25
cheap fender wall adaptor - $5
sounds amazing and works well. just bolt the adapter directly to your maf, filter to adapter. easy. cheap. effective.
dual cone filter in color of your choice - $25
cheap fender wall adaptor - $5
sounds amazing and works well. just bolt the adapter directly to your maf, filter to adapter. easy. cheap. effective.
Place Racing or bust. Place Racing made the only TRUE cold air intake, the piping exits the engine bay and goes into the front fender. The filter then sits in the fender getting cold air from the grill and fog light holes.
Requires you to cut a 3 1/8in diameter whole beneath the fuse box, next to the battery tray to get the piping to run to. It was a fun project, it looks nice, sounds nice, and the top end is great.
Requires you to cut a 3 1/8in diameter whole beneath the fuse box, next to the battery tray to get the piping to run to. It was a fun project, it looks nice, sounds nice, and the top end is great.
Proof? As in what a dyno sheet?
I had a Short Ram intake for a while and didnt like the power loss in the low end.
I noticed that while i did lose low end with the PR intake, I gained more top end.
Also, on cool days the car performs amazing since the air filter gets direct air flow from the outside
I had a Short Ram intake for a while and didnt like the power loss in the low end.
I noticed that while i did lose low end with the PR intake, I gained more top end.
Also, on cool days the car performs amazing since the air filter gets direct air flow from the outside
Proof? As in what a dyno sheet?
I had a Short Ram intake for a while and didnt like the power loss in the low end.
I noticed that while i did lose low end with the PR intake, I gained more top end.
Also, on cool days the car performs amazing since the air filter gets direct air flow from the outside
I had a Short Ram intake for a while and didnt like the power loss in the low end.
I noticed that while i did lose low end with the PR intake, I gained more top end.
Also, on cool days the car performs amazing since the air filter gets direct air flow from the outside
Till then, neither of our opinions are really valid.
/\ lol
Just so you know OP (original poster), Place Racing intakes are no longer available new, and rarely come up used in the classifieds. I believe there's one now in the classifieds, but it appears it's been modified and needs some TLC.
Just so you know OP (original poster), Place Racing intakes are no longer available new, and rarely come up used in the classifieds. I believe there's one now in the classifieds, but it appears it's been modified and needs some TLC.
Remove airbox
Grab some used pantyhose, cut around ankle area
Fit "sock" of pantyhose over MAF
Rubber band in place
Nearly restriction-free intake.
While you're at it, take a can of compressed air, turn it upside down, and blast that intake w/freezing coldness. +20hp right there.
Dr J
Grab some used pantyhose, cut around ankle area
Fit "sock" of pantyhose over MAF
Rubber band in place
Nearly restriction-free intake.
While you're at it, take a can of compressed air, turn it upside down, and blast that intake w/freezing coldness. +20hp right there.
Dr J
Remove airbox
Grab some used pantyhose, cut around ankle area
Fit "sock" of pantyhose over MAF
Rubber band in place
Nearly restriction-free intake.
While you're at it, take a can of compressed air, turn it upside down, and blast that intake w/freezing coldness. +20hp right there.
Dr J
Grab some used pantyhose, cut around ankle area
Fit "sock" of pantyhose over MAF
Rubber band in place
Nearly restriction-free intake.
While you're at it, take a can of compressed air, turn it upside down, and blast that intake w/freezing coldness. +20hp right there.
Dr J
too much work mang, i have a leaf blower hooked up to my TB with a remote switch in the cockpit. flip that switch over and boom, i got 3 psi of boost. thats worth 50whp right there
True. I'm usually against knockoffs, but in this case there is nothing with going this route since a) Place Racing no longer exists and b) there's nothing high tech about the design. Therefore, a knockoff PR CAI is probably the way to go as long as you get a good filter as mentioned.
Remove airbox
Grab some used pantyhose, cut around ankle area
Fit "sock" of pantyhose over MAF
Rubber band in place
Nearly restriction-free intake.
While you're at it, take a can of compressed air, turn it upside down, and blast that intake w/freezing coldness. +20hp right there.
Dr J
Grab some used pantyhose, cut around ankle area
Fit "sock" of pantyhose over MAF
Rubber band in place
Nearly restriction-free intake.
While you're at it, take a can of compressed air, turn it upside down, and blast that intake w/freezing coldness. +20hp right there.
Dr J
and wiz, thanks for the advice, like i said i'm knew and just want to be more educated, that's why i'm on this forum reading up on what i can, and taking examples from people that have done it before me
edit: knew doesnt = new
edit: knew doesnt = new
Last edited by Fauken; Aug 24, 2011 at 07:49 AM.
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