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Old Oct 6, 2011 | 09:52 PM
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Those who DIY oil change - do you measure the final 7/8 QT or just put 5 QTs?

Question for those who change your own oil in a 7th gen... do you actually measure and put in the final 7/8 QT? Or do you just put it 5 QTs total? How/what do you use if you do measure?

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Old Oct 6, 2011 | 10:13 PM
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In my mom's 7th gen, I just put in the whole 5.
Old Oct 7, 2011 | 02:54 AM
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I have had 2 free dealer oil changes and 3 at a local quick lube. Every oil change has resulted in the oil being slightly above the hashed full line while cold and on level surface. I assume both of these places are going 5 quarts.
I cannot imagine 1/8 of a quart making any significant difference at all.
Old Oct 7, 2011 | 04:44 AM
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So, it shouldn't hurt anything by going a little over by putting the entire 5 qt rather than 4 7/8?
Old Oct 7, 2011 | 05:18 AM
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I've only been able to fit 4 7/8 in there. Figured I just save that 1/8 until I have enough that's useful
Old Oct 7, 2011 | 05:41 AM
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1/8 quart is about 118ml or less than half of a cup... IMO it will not hurt a thing. I've seen women drivers add a qt each time the oil light came on. Long story short...I've seen engines running filled to the brim with oil...not running well but running. (but they were not running well to start with)
Old Oct 7, 2011 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by vulcanw
I've seen women drivers add a qt each time the oil light came on

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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 08:23 AM
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I start with 4.5qts, drive around for a day find the most level surface and add from there. I always try to keep just below the full line. Don't forget your filter holds some oil as well. I approach all my cars this way.
Old Oct 7, 2011 | 08:46 AM
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who actually measures off the qts? 4 or 5qts thats good enough.
Old Oct 7, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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5 qts, the oil pan is only full after sitting for several hours, other then that when running the pump is constantly spraying oil onto the top of the engine, draining back down to the pan and repeat.

I happen to run 5 qts and a larger filter, yes Im special

I don't know about this VQ or any VQ but I read that when Chrysler built the 5.7 and 6.1 liter Hemi's, they designed them to withstand being overfilled by 2 quarts and also underfilled by 2 quarts, with that said, most cars/brands are built to withstand certain limits of unknown abuse.
Old Oct 7, 2011 | 09:13 AM
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I just like to be exact as possible. These newer engines have such tighter tolerances and for my own personal satisfaction I feel better knowing that its not over or under.
Old Oct 7, 2011 | 11:29 AM
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I take 1/8 quart out and pour it into a bottle that I use for top-offs. My Frontier takes 5 3/8 quarts - so sometimes I get that last 3/8 from my top-off bottle as well.

But I agree with above posters that it is highly unlikely that overfilling by 1/8 quart could cause a problem
Old Oct 7, 2011 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by quick3.5s
I just like to be exact as possible. These newer engines have such tighter tolerances and for my own personal satisfaction I feel better knowing that its not over or under.
plus or minus 1/8 of a quart does not matter, what really matters is letting the car properly warm up, and proper oil change intervals
Old Oct 7, 2011 | 10:06 PM
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While were on the subject of oil changes... Is it easier to change the oil on this car by taking off the front right wheel? I know it was helpful on my previous 2006 Altima. Thanks.
Old Oct 8, 2011 | 07:03 AM
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I'm curious...what do u guys think you will be hurting by have an extra 1/8 quart(less than a half cup) in the engine??? It's not like an internal combustion engine is a hydraulic cylinder where extra fluid would keep the hydraulic cylinders from moving back and forth. (and yes I know hydraulic systems have a bypass system) The extra oil will just sit in the oil pan. The oil pump will only pick up the same amount. Machining tolerances are no different now than they were 30yrs ago. The only thing I can think of is the crankshaft counter weights will have to cut through a LITTLE bit mo earl....possibly robbing 1/50th of a HP. I have rebuilt hundreds of engines from 4 bangers to Big Block V-8s. I blueprint every engine I build for myself.

OK...i'll hop off my soap box and carry on....that is all
Old Oct 8, 2011 | 07:34 AM
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with newer fuel injected cars you're not supposed to let them warm up for anything longer than a couple minutes. carburetor engines needed to warm up longer, but with fuel injected you'll do more harm than good..

i dont think the extra 1/8 is bad for the car or anything, i just noticed around 4 7/8 it stopped going down.
Old Oct 8, 2011 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Ghozt
with newer fuel injected cars you're not supposed to let them warm up for anything longer than a couple minutes. carburetor engines needed to warm up longer, but with fuel injected you'll do more harm than good..

i dont think the extra 1/8 is bad for the car or anything, i just noticed around 4 7/8 it stopped going down.
Your location says Maryland, normally you let it sit for 30 seconds after you start it and drive but I know in the middle of January that changes
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Originally Posted by wope
While were on the subject of oil changes... Is it easier to change the oil on this car by taking off the front right wheel? I know it was helpful on my previous 2006 Altima. Thanks.
Just buy some rhino ramps, I've never removed the tire, but if you have a hard time loosening the filter buy an oil filter plier, http://www.amazon.com/OEM-25320-Oil-.../dp/B000CMDPDA

I have only used mine on new cars cause they put the filter on so damn tight or when occasionally getting my oil changed at the dealer, when putting a filter on, dip you finger in the old oil, run it over the rubber seal and spin it on and snug it
Old Oct 8, 2011 | 08:46 PM
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Thanks for the help. One last question. What size bolt is the drain plug on 7th gen? Need to make sure I have a wrench that'll fit
Old Oct 9, 2011 | 12:10 PM
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Im pretty sure it's 14mm
Old Oct 10, 2011 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by vulcanw
I'm curious...what do u guys think you will be hurting by have an extra 1/8 quart(less than a half cup) in the engine??? It's not like an internal combustion engine is a hydraulic cylinder where extra fluid would keep the hydraulic cylinders from moving back and forth. (and yes I know hydraulic systems have a bypass system) The extra oil will just sit in the oil pan. The oil pump will only pick up the same amount. Machining tolerances are no different now than they were 30yrs ago. The only thing I can think of is the crankshaft counter weights will have to cut through a LITTLE bit mo earl....possibly robbing 1/50th of a HP. I have rebuilt hundreds of engines from 4 bangers to Big Block V-8s. I blueprint every engine I build for myself.

OK...i'll hop off my soap box and carry on....that is all
An extra 1/8th of a quart isn't going to hurt much. Now, if you were to put in a full 6 quarts, that's dangerous. Overfilling by too much can cause the oil to foam up and reduce it's protection in the motor.

I just take my 5 quart jug of Pennzoil Platinum and a PureOne filter to my dealer. $10 bucks for them to take care of it bringing my own stuff. Not a bad deal in my eyes
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