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Old Dec 30, 2001 | 05:54 PM
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Pre rear anti-sway bar install questions...

O.k., after sitting in my garage for 6 months, I am putting my Addco RASB on today or tomorrow. Any last minute suggestions/tips/hints/how-tos would be much appreciated. Where is the best place to get install instructions? Maximadriver is o.k. but not that great of pictures. The instructions that come with the anti-sway bar are a joke. Cheese write-up and an aweful b+w zeroxed-100-times picture. The best pictures are at custommaxima and that is only to sell the product - not show you how to install it. Is there a site that has it all, a great write up and great pictures? Thanks guys.
Old Dec 30, 2001 | 06:02 PM
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It's better if you have a friend to help you out. It's hard working upside down.

And everything should be pretty easy. Too me about an hour to do, and that's only cause me and my brother put the bar on upside down.

And I torqued the bolts to 25 ft/lb.

And jacks are cool ... but ramps are better.
Old Dec 30, 2001 | 06:03 PM
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The brackets may look the same, but there are two different ones: a pair for the trailing arms, and a pair for the axle. Definitely find separate the two and make sure they all fit before tightening them up. I would also lube up the bushings. I think (not sure) my polyurethane bushings are squeeking...
Old Dec 30, 2001 | 07:18 PM
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O.k., thanks guys. Well, in the last hour from when I posted this to now, I started!

Thanks Clee for the link. I did know about it however, I just didn't mention it as it is the same as maximadriver's. And yes a friend would be nice but my friend ditched me, that punk, and I didn't want to put it off any longer. As for ramps vs. jacks, on the Addco website (not their written instructions but on their website) they clearly state avoid using jacks! They say the number one install problem is due to people using jacks instead of ramps. So ramps it is for me.


Mish, which brackets are you talking about? The "U" bolts, the "U" bushing bracket, or the flat brackets? Lube with what?



O.k., here are my questions/concerns now that I am in to it. First off, in regards to the maximadriver/maxima.org instructions, I have a few comments about them. It says to use lube to get the bushings on. Mine went right on without lube. Then it says to remove the 10mm emergency brake bolt. Which one (there are many) and why? I have my whole bar in place and ready to tighten, I never removed any emergency brake bolts. Am I doing something wrong? Then it says the exhaust will get in the way on the passenger side. Mine was nowhere near being in the way. Maybe because I have a custom cat-back?

Anyway, here are my questions before going further. AFTER I got everything in place, I noticed there are two different versions of the flat brackets (is this what you meant Mish?). Two have two ovals for the u-bolt and the other two have a circle and an oval. Which goes where? I put the circle/oval on the trailing arm and the oval/oval on the axle. Now I think I did it backwards as the flat plate has no play on the trailing arms. Would you guys agree?
Lastly, the instructions from Addco talk about the location of the bushings on the ends of the bar (on the trailing arms). It says you can "adjust the rate the bar puts out by sliding the assembly." "Towards the end of the bar decreases it and away from the end of the bar increases it." What the heck does that mean?! The maximadriver/maxima.org instructions say 3/4 in. from the end. What did you guys do?

Thanks so much. Sorry for rambling. I'll check back in half an hour/an hour. Wish me luck.
Old Dec 30, 2001 | 07:42 PM
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Whew ... lots of questions... ummm ... ok ....

O.k., here are my questions/concerns now that I am in to it. First off, in regards to the maximadriver/maxima.org instructions, I have a few comments about them. It says to use lube to get the bushings on. Mine went right on without lube.
I think they redesigned the bushings. Because I've done several installs and the first two, the bushings weren't cut and we had to use lube. The last couple of ones I did, the bushings were cut and they fit on easily. So don't worry about that. You're lucky you didn't have to stand there mashing the damn bushings.


Then it says to remove the 10mm emergency brake bolt. Which one (there are many) and why? I have my whole bar in place and ready to tighten, I never removed any emergency brake bolts. Am I doing something wrong? Then it says the exhaust will get in the way on the passenger side. Mine was nowhere near being in the way. Maybe because I have a custom cat-back?
Look at the Max.org directions, you see the second pic? There's an arrow pointing to the 10mm emergency brake bolt. It's kind of hidden behind the wheel. You'll see a round canister type object. You have to take the bolt off that.

AFTER I got everything in place, I noticed there are two different versions of the flat brackets (is this what you meant Mish?). Two have two ovals for the u-bolt and the other two have a circle and an oval. Which goes where? I put the circle/oval on the trailing arm and the oval/oval on the axle. Now I think I did it backwards as the flat plate has no play on the trailing arms. Would you guys agree?
Ummm ... honestly, I forget... ... but the plates should fit on easily. You shouldn't have to force the "U" brackets into the plates. If they don't fit in easily, they go in the other place.


Lastly, the instructions from Addco talk about the location of the bushings on the ends of the bar (on the trailing arms). It says you can "adjust the rate the bar puts out by sliding the assembly." "Towards the end of the bar decreases it and away from the end of the bar increases it." What the heck does that mean?! The maximadriver/maxima.org instructions say 3/4 in. from the end. What did you guys do?
Ummm ... the Addco doesn't leave much room for you to play around with the bushings. I just put the bushings about 3/4 inches in from the end and on the beam, I put them as close to the 90 degree bend as possible.

Thanks so much. Sorry for rambling. I'll check back in half an hour/an hour. Wish me luck.
Good luck!
Old Dec 30, 2001 | 09:49 PM
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maximus98 and i took it off his car and put it on mine in less than an hour using ramps, just dont totally tighten one side then another, do a little here and a little there or it will be impossible to get the middle ones on
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Whew ... lots of questions... ummm ... ok ....

&&&& Sorry!





I think they redesigned the bushings. Because I've done several installs and the first two, the bushings weren't cut and we had to use lube. The last couple of ones I did, the bushings were cut and they fit on easily. So don't worry about that. You're lucky you didn't have to stand there mashing the damn bushings.

&&&& I gotcha! Yes, they were sliced so I could imagine if they weren't it would be hard.






Look at the Max.org directions, you see the second pic? There's an arrow pointing to the 10mm emergency brake bolt. It's kind of hidden behind the wheel. You'll see a round canister type object. You have to take the bolt off that.

&&&& Uh, no. I am done and I never took any emergency bolt off of anything. Why do you feel you have to?







Ummm ... honestly, I forget... ... but the plates should fit on easily. You shouldn't have to force the "U" brackets into the plates. If they don't fit in easily, they go in the other place.

&&&& Yes, thanks. I tried to reverse them and it didn't work. So I had them right the first time.






Ummm ... the Addco doesn't leave much room for you to play around with the bushings. I just put the bushings about 3/4 inches in from the end and on the beam, I put them as close to the 90 degree bend as possible.

&&&& Right, that's what the .org write-up says but, if I'm reading it correctly, the Addco instructions say the further from the end, the more effective the bar! I don't know. I just did dead center, about 1.5 inches to 2 inches from the end.





Good luck!

&&&& Thanks! I think all is fine. Thanks so much for the help. I'm glad it's over. Now I get to test it on the way to work tomorrow...
Old Dec 31, 2001 | 05:06 AM
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just saw this, these pictures may help:

http://www.rit.edu/~aab8398/car/addco/
Old Dec 31, 2001 | 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by theblue
just saw this, these pictures may help:

http://www.rit.edu/~aab8398/car/addco/


Thanks blue! I'm done and those definitely would have helped but, hey it doesn't hurt to take another look at someone else's work.

Clee, check it out. That is what I was talking about. See how the end bushings are as far away from the ends as possible? Hmmm...

Also, I am still curious about this emergency brake bolt. Why did I not have to remove mine when some of you did? I can't even imagine how it would have helped.

Thanks again everyone.
Old Dec 31, 2001 | 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by ptatohed

Also, I am still curious about this emergency brake bolt. Why did I not have to remove mine when some of you did? I can't even imagine how it would have helped.
I didn't have to take mine off either. Go figure.
Old Dec 31, 2001 | 12:24 PM
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when we did it, we had to remove it to take it off his car, but didnt have to remove it to put it on mine
Old Dec 31, 2001 | 01:32 PM
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Hmmm, perhaps it's a 95/96 vs. a 97/99 thing? 95/96 no and 97/99 yes, they do need to remove the e-brake bolt. Does that make sense?

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