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Old Dec 31, 2001 | 12:34 PM
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Me vs. 96 Max vs. RSX Type-S

First run was on Saturday night near Marion/Carbondale IL on 13. A black 96 Max (5-speed) with an exhaust (not sure what type) and 17" wheels similar to ASA JS6's. My 97 5-Speed is stock. After two attempts (all thwarted to due to traffic pulling onto 13) we finally line up (I actually had to start right behind him) and take off. What seemed like an eternity of shuddering (probably for both)..we get traction and take off...I immediately pull over to the right hand lane (we had started in the left) all the time his rear bumper is about three feet in front of my front bumper, I'm not gaining and he's not pulling. Then at about 90-95...he really starts to pull me about 1/5 car per second (that is a guess). I can only assume the exhaust helped him on top end. Their were three in his car and two in mine (that includes drivers). I had a 1/4 tank of gas. Pulled up to the next light, gave him the thumbs up and asked if he had anything else besides the can and he said nope. All was cool.

Next night again on 13 (13 is pretty wide 4 lane divided highway) I'm doing about 80 when a new RSX Type R passes by. Guy still had temp tags on it. I fall back and keep pace until we come upon a stop light and we both line up...he doesn't rev so I'm not sure if he's going to go or not. Light turns...we both take off fairly agressively (not sure if he as a 5-speed, not sure if they come in auto though either)...about the time I get to 3800 RPMs in second gear and he's about at the B-pillar he kicks it(I kept glancing over my shoulder to see if he would)...I nail it and right away I'm pulling him (now I'm watching in my rearview mirror). I row through the gears (shifting at about 6K) and the entire time he is loosing ground at a consistent rate (I would guess about two to three feet per second). In the end he's about 1 1/2 to 2 car lengths back. At 90, while I'm still pulling him - he shuts down....we cruise the rest of the way into Marion at 80 where he pulls off. There were two in his car and one in mine...and I had about 2/3 off a tank of gas. I know those cars are supposed to be quick so maybe he just didn't push as hard as he could've, or maybe he took off in the wrong gear, or maybe he was loaded down with Christmas gifts..who knows...but he was definitely pushing because he was not loosing ground as fast as he might have been had he been doing just 60....any thoughts? Take care.
Old Dec 31, 2001 | 12:43 PM
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RSX Type R? Don't you mean Type S?
Old Dec 31, 2001 | 01:15 PM
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Good kill, did you see the test one Mag did recently of The RSX type S,Eclipse and the Celica, not so great numbers for none all in the 7+ 0-60 range. 1/4 trap speeds were in the high 80's if I remember correctly
Old Dec 31, 2001 | 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
Good kill, did you see the test one Mag did recently of The RSX type S,Eclipse and the Celica, not so great numbers for none all in the 7+ 0-60 range. 1/4 trap speeds were in the high 80's if I remember correctly
Celica's and RSX's are little ooglie bug-cars with puny sounding 4-banger engines and are OwnEd by anyone with a decently fast car.
Old Dec 31, 2001 | 01:34 PM
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RSX Type R? Don't you mean Type S?
Yeah, only japan get the Type-R's now they got like 220HP, not bad, but not in the states.
Old Dec 31, 2001 | 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by Craig Mack


Celica's and RSX's are little ooglie bug-cars with puny sounding 4-banger engines and are OwnEd by anyone with a decently fast car.
dude..WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? my friends GSR with i/e and stage 2 clutch ran a 14.8@94mph. and i raced a celica GTS(6spd) and lost by half a car.

and both cars were screaming and sounded dope as hell.

GO out and race sometime.....
Old Dec 31, 2001 | 02:18 PM
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Old Dec 31, 2001 | 03:37 PM
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Type S not Type R

My bad....I meant Type S ...not Type R. Sorry.
Old Dec 31, 2001 | 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by buss95max


dude..WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? my friends GSR with i/e and stage 2 clutch ran a 14.8@94mph. and i raced a celica GTS(6spd) and lost by half a car.

and both cars were screaming and sounded dope as hell.

GO out and race sometime.....
Celica has 6 speeds. Shame...

Oh, I race. Last nite I whooped up on a Ranger. Gave him a full second lead, and still embarrassed him.
Old Dec 31, 2001 | 04:26 PM
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what does it matter that celica is a 6spd? i raced it in the 1/4, so its not gonna use that 6th gear anyhow. and whats the point of racing a ranger? only thing you're embarrassing is your maxima.
Old Dec 31, 2001 | 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by buss95max
what does it matter that celica is a 6spd? i raced it in the 1/4, so its not gonna use that 6th gear anyhow. and whats the point of racing a ranger? only thing you're embarrassing is your maxima.
WHA E AH YOU HATING?
Old Dec 31, 2001 | 05:42 PM
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whos hating? what the point of racing a ranger? might as well race on foot. if you want to race trucks race a s/c'ed tacoma or a syclone....its like picking on civic DXs, its lame.
Old Jan 1, 2002 | 02:19 AM
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WHA E AH YOU HATING?
Huh?
Old Jan 1, 2002 | 04:12 PM
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what's your definition of decently fast? heheh

and I think the other guy menat "WHY ARE YOU HATING"
please speak english next time cuz I can't always be here translating

Originally posted by Craig Mack

Celica's and RSX's are little ooglie bug-cars with puny sounding 4-banger engines and are OwnEd by anyone with a decently fast car.
Old Jan 1, 2002 | 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by buss95max
what does it matter that celica is a 6spd? i raced it in the 1/4, so its not gonna use that 6th gear anyhow. and whats the point of racing a ranger? only thing you're embarrassing is your maxima.
Hmmm, well I was on my way home from a party, and a Ranger was tailin me. He pulls up beside me at the stoplight. He guns it off the line and me and my friend just laugh. I waited at least a few seconds, then I just floor it and scream past him. Next stop light he didn't try anything.

BTW, It's just my opinion that the celica/RSX are ugly little bug-like cars that sound puny. You can think whatever you want of them
Old Jan 1, 2002 | 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by buss95max
what does it matter that celica is a 6spd?
You can make the gears a lot more aggresive and have a closer ratio if you have 6 gears as opposed to 5. That's part of the reason that the GTS is decently quick. By the way, they're VERY close stock. edmunds has a 97 5spd Max at 6.8 to 60 and the same for a 2001 Celica GTS. And a Type S RSX IS QUICKER than a stock 4th Gen Max. I raced a BRAND new one (engine not broken in so it's slower than it will
be) and staed with him to about 85 and then he started to slowly pull away. That was from a 20mph roll. We never raced from a stop, but the Max will initialy pull, more low end torque. However, the RSX will pull hard and walk away from a STOCK Max.
Old Jan 1, 2002 | 06:54 PM
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my point being...you won't use the 6th gear @ the 1/4.

i have a friend with a celica GTS and im ahead the whole way up to when he hits 3rd gear. he'll starts to walk on me. i dont compare magazine times they mean nothing to me.
Old Jan 1, 2002 | 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by buss95max
my point being...you won't use the 6th gear @ the 1/4.
I understand that you won't use 6th, or even 5th in the 1/4. But the ratios in the lower gears are MUCH more aggresive and closer together.... Which makes the car faster than it would be with a 5spd. With a 5spd the gears have to be a bit taller and farther apart to still be economical for gas mileage on the hwy. So a 6spd IS an advantage. Sorry if you don't understand that.
Old Jan 1, 2002 | 07:16 PM
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i understand what your saying. my friends prelude S has very tall gears which kills him on the 1/4. he put a h22 in, and was running some crappy *** times. my other friend with a stang runs 13s on the 1/4 like nothing, but on the fwy has no kind pull. his gears are so short, he is out of breath at around 100mph.
Old Jan 1, 2002 | 10:09 PM
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Type S's are slow ****z Type R's are half decent...... First Gen DSM's own all them tho
Old Jan 2, 2002 | 07:41 AM
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Originally posted by RastaManMax
Type S's are slow ****z Type R's are half decent...... First Gen DSM's own all them tho
Ok, 1G DSMs are more than capable of running low 10's. They're already turbo's and they're AWD. Yes, they're quick. And to say that Type S's are slow is saying that Maxima's are REALLY slow because stock vs. stock, the Maxima will lose. At least all 4th gen and early 5th gens will. So insult them all you want, I don't like em much myself, but they are pretty quick.
Old Jan 2, 2002 | 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by buss95max
what does it matter that celica is a 6spd? i raced it in the 1/4, so its not gonna use that 6th gear anyhow. and whats the point of racing a ranger? only thing you're embarrassing is your maxima.
6spd matters 'cos all his gears are a closer together, giving him better use of a shorter powerband (if he knows how to drive it).
Old Jan 2, 2002 | 01:42 PM
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geez..another one?

HES NOT GOING TO USE THE 6th GEAR.
thats what i stated. i didnt say nothing about it not
having closer ratios.
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