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Old Jan 3, 2002 | 08:23 AM
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PRCAI VS Stillen intake and various other intake questions.

I know most of the details of both. My question deals more with sound. Does the PRCAI sound like the ones that are just under the hood? I want the advantage that the CAI gives me but might also want a little growl to go with it also.

Also, is there any advantage/disadvantage to taking the airflow of the existing stock airbox and feeding it cold air from the fender well with a K/N panel filter? My thought (I am not a physics expert) is that you still get the free flow and cold air from the K/N combinations with the stock torque effect of the current airbox. Am I just smoking crack?

Also do you really lose Torque with an intake or is it just butt dyno that makes it feel that way? I usually just do light to light Honduh stomping so I don't want to lose torque. Will getting a Y-pipe compensate for torque loss (if there is any)?

Thanks for any info provided....
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 08:37 AM
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Re: PRCAI VS Stillen intake and various other intake questions.

Originally posted by Colonel
I know most of the details of both. My question deals more with sound. Does the PRCAI sound like the ones that are just under the hood? I want the advantage that the CAI gives me but might also want a little growl to go with it also.

Also, is there any advantage/disadvantage to taking the airflow of the existing stock airbox and feeding it cold air from the fender well with a K/N panel filter? My thought (I am not a physics expert) is that you still get the free flow and cold air from the K/N combinations with the stock torque effect of the current airbox. Am I just smoking crack?

Also do you really lose Torque with an intake or is it just butt dyno that makes it feel that way? I usually just do light to light Honduh stomping so I don't want to lose torque. Will getting a Y-pipe compensate for torque loss (if there is any)?

Thanks for any info provided....
If you search the forums you'll probably find like a ton of threads on the topic of CAI & Intakes. I personally have the PRCAI and I just love it. The sound at full WOT is just awesome. It growls a lil louder then the JWT that I had previously installed. With the CAi you'll regain some of the low end torque that you loose having a Stillen/JWT intake installed..

PS: If you haven't already, lower you ride. It looks like a 4X4
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 08:39 AM
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Re: Re: PRCAI VS Stillen intake and various other intake questions.

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If you search the forums you'll probably find like a ton of threads on the topic of CAI & Intakes. I personally have the PRCAI and I just love it. The sound at full WOT is just awesome. It growls a lil louder then the JWT that I had previously installed. With the CAi you'll regain some of the low end torque that you loose having a Stillen/JWT intake installed..

PS: If you haven't already, lower you ride. It looks like a 4X4
I wish I could but the wifey wont let me... I can get speed stuff but she like the ride. "NO change to the way it rides or no more mods!" Not going to push it at this point!

Is the torque loss that noticable?
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 10:14 AM
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I went from the JWT to Cattman CAI (same as PRCAI) and while I had the JWT, I didn't feel much of a loss in low-end torque. However, when I put the CAI on, I realized just how much the JWT lost, and how much the CAI got back. There wasn't too much of a sound difference with the JWT, at least no that I could detect with the y-pipe already on, but like PCguru2k said, the CAI sounds awesome at any decent amount of throttle.
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 10:34 AM
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Re: PRCAI VS Stillen intake and various other intake questions.

Originally posted by Colonel
I know most of the details of both. My question deals more with sound. Does the PRCAI sound like the ones that are just under the hood? I want the advantage that the CAI gives me but might also want a little growl to go with it also.

Also, is there any advantage/disadvantage to taking the airflow of the existing stock airbox and feeding it cold air from the fender well with a K/N panel filter? My thought (I am not a physics expert) is that you still get the free flow and cold air from the K/N combinations with the stock torque effect of the current airbox. Am I just smoking crack?

Also do you really lose Torque with an intake or is it just butt dyno that makes it feel that way? I usually just do light to light Honduh stomping so I don't want to lose torque. Will getting a Y-pipe compensate for torque loss (if there is any)?

Thanks for any info provided....
From what I've heard the CAI is louder at full throttle than the SI.

As for torque - either the CAI or the SI should be an improvement over stock or the same. I've heard butt dynos re: the difference but no real dynos. Most of the discussion about torque has been that the CAI appears to have a torque advantage over the SI. Which I have found to be true from racing a car that dyno'd nearly identical to mine with the same mods except he had a cai and I had an SI.

For certain, either intake and a y pipe will give you around 12 hp over stock and around 3 ft-lbs of torque.
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 10:57 AM
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Re: PRCAI VS Stillen intake and various other intake questions.

Originally posted by Colonel
I know most of the details of both. My question deals more with sound. Does the PRCAI sound like the ones that are just under the hood? I want the advantage that the CAI gives me but might also want a little growl to go with it also.
I have the CAI. If you want to take a ride up to Huber, your welcome to come and see/hear it for yourself.

Its loud over 3K rpms. Its a smother path than the stock box so it will have a higher velocity...more HP. But as the OSCAI fans will tell you its not much different that a cold air scoup on the stock box. I like it and it looks good. Your not going to get earth shattering power from an intake on a 3.0L unboosted enginer anyway.
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by nc00max
I went from the JWT to Cattman CAI (same as PRCAI) and while I had the JWT, I didn't feel much of a loss in low-end torque. However, when I put the CAI on, I realized just how much the JWT lost, and how much the CAI got back. There wasn't too much of a sound difference with the JWT, at least no that I could detect with the y-pipe already on, but like PCguru2k said, the CAI sounds awesome at any decent amount of throttle.

Thanks nc00max,


I was going to post and ask someone that has had both to compare the sound, I currently have a JWT and I am happy but I may switch to CAI before the summer.
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 11:24 AM
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Re: PRCAI VS Stillen intake and various other intake questions.

Originally posted by Colonel
I know most of the details of both. My question deals more with sound. Does the PRCAI sound like the ones that are just under the hood? I want the advantage that the CAI gives me but might also want a little growl to go with it also.

Also, is there any advantage/disadvantage to taking the airflow of the existing stock airbox and feeding it cold air from the fender well with a K/N panel filter? My thought (I am not a physics expert) is that you still get the free flow and cold air from the K/N combinations with the stock torque effect of the current airbox. Am I just smoking crack?

Also do you really lose Torque with an intake or is it just butt dyno that makes it feel that way? I usually just do light to light Honduh stomping so I don't want to lose torque. Will getting a Y-pipe compensate for torque loss (if there is any)?

Thanks for any info provided....
there's an article about Stillen Intake vs. Place Racing CAI at www.maximadriver.com go there and click tech aricles to find the review.
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 12:24 PM
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Re: Re: PRCAI VS Stillen intake and various other intake questions.

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there's an article about Stillen Intake vs. Place Racing CAI at www.maximadriver.com go there and click tech aricles to find the review.
LOL I read and still have no definative answer...I guess what it comes down to is money and personal preference! Hmmmmm....the debate continues....
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 01:54 PM
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Re: Re: Re: PRCAI VS Stillen intake and various other intake questions.

Trust me, the debate is never going to end.

Originally posted by Colonel
LOL I read and still have no definative answer...I guess what it comes down to is money and personal preference! Hmmmmm....the debate continues....
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 01:59 PM
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i'm selling my intake system starting a about 1-2 weeks and it will fit your car very soon. it's a short ram. i noticed no loss in torque and it sounds great. listen http://o2pc.netfirms.com/outside.wav

http://o2pc.netfirms.com/incar.wav email me with questions skusek_pps@yahoo.com
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima88
i'm selling my intake system starting a about 1-2 weeks and it will fit your car very soon. it's a short ram. i noticed no loss in torque and it sounds great. listen http://o2pc.netfirms.com/outside.wav

http://o2pc.netfirms.com/incar.wav email me with questions skusek_pps@yahoo.com
I emailed you...
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