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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 05:57 PM
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I have an auto...in the movie FATF they say double clutch

how do you double clutch? what are the benefits
Old Jan 8, 2002 | 06:01 PM
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Re: I have an auto...in the movie FATF they say double clutch

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how do you double clutch? what are the benefits
Step 1..

go trade in for a 5spd.. once you do that.. i will teach you step 2
Old Jan 8, 2002 | 06:05 PM
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Re: I have an auto...in the movie FATF they say double clutch

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how do you double clutch? what are the benefits
A friend of mine once told me that his father learned to drive in a car with two clutches. I looked at him all funny like and said; "You taking the ****, mate? There's no such thing!".

"Yes there is! My dad said he was always double-clutching..."

And he was serious! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Old Jan 8, 2002 | 06:07 PM
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Re: Re: I have an auto...in the movie FATF they say double clutch

i just want to know what and how you do it? ?/
Old Jan 8, 2002 | 06:08 PM
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Re: Re: I have an auto...in the movie FATF they say double clutch

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Step 1..

go trade in for a 5spd.. once you do that.. i will teach you step 2
Old Jan 8, 2002 | 06:12 PM
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Re: Re: Re: I have an auto...in the movie FATF they say double clutch

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i just want to know what and how you do it? ?/
If you can find a clutch in your car, we can explain it, otherwise, follow Sprints directions.
Old Jan 8, 2002 | 06:22 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: I have an auto...in the movie FATF they say double clutch

ahhh....what the deal... i want to know what are the benefits of it i've driven a 5 spd before but im not aware of the terms...
Old Jan 8, 2002 | 06:27 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I have an auto...in the movie FATF they say double clutch

Originally posted by BLacKMax69
ahhh....what the deal... i want to know what are the benefits of it i've driven a 5 spd before but im not aware of the terms...

you clutch the clutch... double clutch.. but you don't have one.. so I will be really impressed if you can can 1 clutch , let alone 2
Old Jan 8, 2002 | 06:29 PM
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How to double-declutch

Originally posted by BLacKMax69
ahhh....what the deal... i want to know what are the benefits of it i've driven a 5 spd before but im not aware of the terms...
Double-declutching is what people used to have to do before they invented Synchromesh manual gearboxes. There is no benefit to it at all, in fact it is a great detriment to anyone who does it.

What you do is;

1) Push in clutch pedal and get off gas
2) Pull tranny into neutral
3) Release clutch pedal
4) Rev the gas once
5) Push the clutch pedal in
6) Select new gear
7) Release clutch pedal and hit the gas


Compared to;

1) Push in clutch pedal and get off gas
2)
3)
4)
5)
6) Select new gear
7) Release clutch pedal and hit the gas


The only time you would double-clutch and GAIN anything is a transmission with no synchromesh. Either a 1940's truck or a hardcore race tranny (where the only gain is longevity, certainly not speed)
Old Jan 8, 2002 | 06:35 PM
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sorry, only works on manual transmissions and it's hollywood script crap, cause with todays synchomesh transmissions, you really don't have to double clutch....however you can, but it takes practice, the pedals (brake and accelerator) have to be placed just right, but if you do it, its SWEET.

It is usually used during braking to downshift so you are in the proper gear for the next turn. You press on the brake with your 1/2 of your right foot, depress the clutch, put it into neutral,let up on the clutch while still braking hard, rev the engine a bit with the other half of your right foot (gear still in neutral), depress clutch and downshift from neutral into the gear you want, let up on the clutch while blipping the throttle again to match revs and you are in....SWEET.
Old Jan 8, 2002 | 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by Tai Mai Shu Jr.
sorry, only works on manual transmissions and it's hollywood script crap, cause with todays synchomesh transmissions, you really don't have to double clutch....however you can, but it takes practice, the pedals (brake and accelerator) have to be placed just right, but if you do it, its SWEET.

It is usually used during braking to downshift so you are in the proper gear for the next turn. You press on the brake with your 1/2 of your right foot, depress the clutch, put it into neutral,let up on the clutch while still braking hard, rev the engine a bit with the other half of your right foot (gear still in neutral), depress clutch and downshift from neutral into the gear you want, let up on the clutch while blipping the throttle again to match revs and you are in....SWEET.
Thought that was heel to toe shifting?
Same thing?

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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 07:07 PM
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Re: I have an auto...in the movie FATF they say double clutch

Originally posted by BLacKMax69
how do you double clutch? what are the benefits
no benefits. usually results in dropping your transmission before you learn how to do it right
Old Jan 8, 2002 | 07:16 PM
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no - heel to toe shifting is different - thats explained more throughly on www.maximadriver.com
Old Jan 8, 2002 | 10:38 PM
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There is always shifting without using the clutch...catch the gear at the right time....not easy but possible and quick.

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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 11:35 PM
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how do u shift without clutch?
Old Jan 9, 2002 | 12:41 AM
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If you shift when your engine RPMs match the RPM your engine WOULD BE AT for whatever gear you are GOING INTO at whatever speed you are at, you can shift without using the clutch. Its hard to do. I've done it a few times but its kindof hit or miss... I can get it about 50% of the time, not that I've tried it that much.
Old Jan 9, 2002 | 12:47 AM
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Re: How to double-declutch

Originally posted by Scruit


Double-declutching is what people used to have to do before they invented Synchromesh manual gearboxes. There is no benefit to it at all, in fact it is a great detriment to anyone who does it.

What you do is;

1) Push in clutch pedal and get off gas
2) Pull tranny into neutral
3) Release clutch pedal
4) Rev the gas once
5) Push the clutch pedal in
6) Select new gear
7) Release clutch pedal and hit the gas


Compared to;

1) Push in clutch pedal and get off gas
2)
3)
4)
5)
6) Select new gear
7) Release clutch pedal and hit the gas


The only time you would double-clutch and GAIN anything is a transmission with no synchromesh. Either a 1940's truck or a hardcore race tranny (where the only gain is longevity, certainly not speed)
LOL! I love this post! All true. I think maybe some modern commercial trucks still need this too.

I was going to wonder about clutchless shifting along with Lucent, but I type too slow!

Dumb hollywood script writers. Double clutching should not be confused with heel-and-toe shifting (mentioned above), which is for good shifting while making a corner, or power shifting, which is for hardcore accelleration. Power shifting is when you can operate the clutch and shifter so fast you can shift without letting off on the gas and complete the shift before the engine redlines. You can hear this in movies like (I dunno... Bullit with Steve McQueen! ) where they're accellerating like nuts and you hear the engine rev for a split second. Doing it wrong, however ("missing a shift") is how you blow up things! (I don't try this btw!)
Old Jan 9, 2002 | 02:37 AM
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In a 4th Gen Maxima you can shift from 2nd to 3rd without the clutch very easily..

when you are driving in second.. get of the gas.. bang 2nd to 3rd without thinking about it.. and it will go right in.. this is the only gear i know of that will work at any RPM .. so don't go trying every damn gear
Old Jan 9, 2002 | 05:40 AM
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My Yamaha FJ1200 shifts so sweet without the clutch. Just click vrooom click vroooom click vroooom. Then I usually have to slow down. That $ucker is fast as $hit. 1200cc of RICE power!
Old Jan 9, 2002 | 06:14 AM
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Re: How to double-declutch

Originally posted by Scruit

The only time you would double-clutch and GAIN anything is a transmission with no synchromesh. Either a 1940's truck or a hardcore race tranny (where the only gain is longevity, certainly not speed)
Even trucks made today must be double clutched or shifted with no clutch. Trucks still do not have a synchromesh. (If it has less than 10 wheels its a car.)

Edit - Fixed typo
Old Jan 9, 2002 | 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by SuDZ


Thought that was heel to toe shifting?
Same thing?

SuDZ
Omit the "put in neutral and release the clutch" part and you can call it heel and toe. All that is is braking while blipping the throttle to raise the engine speed as you are releasing the clutch with the car in a lower gear. There are a few different techniques to do it, but the end result is the same.
Old Jan 11, 2002 | 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by LucentAUTO
how do u shift without clutch?
Buy an Automatic!
Old Jan 11, 2002 | 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
In a 4th Gen Maxima you can shift from 2nd to 3rd without the clutch very easily..

when you are driving in second.. get of the gas.. bang 2nd to 3rd without thinking about it.. and it will go right in.. this is the only gear i know of that will work at any RPM .. so don't go trying every damn gear
With my old 84 300ZX I used to be able to shift from 3rd to 4th without pressing clutch. But I could only do it at a low RMP so by the time I hit 4th I am at the weak end of the power band. No benefit in that case.
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