Question about ride height and tires
Question about ride height and tires
Whats up everyone, I have a maxima stock ride height but with 19's, so this **** is riding sky high, as one of my friends put it. My tires are extremely low profile, here is a pic


and I wanted to throw this in too so I don't start a new thread- I smoked the headlights a bit (it was dark out so they look darker than they really are), and the wheels are back to black.

Anyway, to the point! I need new tires to pass inspection. I have 2 choices.
1. Buy the same size tires (Just 2 for now since I only have 400) and replace the 2 bad ones that really need to go, and keep the okish ones until I can afford the extra set in another month or so. If that is the case, snow will still be a *****, but I'll have new tires.
2. Buy bigger, thicker, tires. I figured this would be an ok idea because I've seen people with 17's with thick tires, but on a non dropped maxima and the size of the wheel gap looks much smaller. I'll have to wait a bit to buy them all in one shot so I don't look like a moron driving with the front end up my car up in the air.
So my question is this- will thicker tires on 19's fill in the wheel gap, or will it just raise my car higher up and keep the gap the same.
And to let everyone know, I am just doing this to get by. I have no problem buying tires, but please no more "LOWER IT!" lol, because it's not a priority right now, I just need to get to work in the snow.


and I wanted to throw this in too so I don't start a new thread- I smoked the headlights a bit (it was dark out so they look darker than they really are), and the wheels are back to black.

Anyway, to the point! I need new tires to pass inspection. I have 2 choices.
1. Buy the same size tires (Just 2 for now since I only have 400) and replace the 2 bad ones that really need to go, and keep the okish ones until I can afford the extra set in another month or so. If that is the case, snow will still be a *****, but I'll have new tires.
2. Buy bigger, thicker, tires. I figured this would be an ok idea because I've seen people with 17's with thick tires, but on a non dropped maxima and the size of the wheel gap looks much smaller. I'll have to wait a bit to buy them all in one shot so I don't look like a moron driving with the front end up my car up in the air.
So my question is this- will thicker tires on 19's fill in the wheel gap, or will it just raise my car higher up and keep the gap the same.
And to let everyone know, I am just doing this to get by. I have no problem buying tires, but please no more "LOWER IT!" lol, because it's not a priority right now, I just need to get to work in the snow.
Last edited by TommyNtama; Oct 9, 2012 at 04:18 PM.
What aspect ratio tire are you running now? 40? With 19's and 235 wide a 40 aspect ratio keeps the speedo accurate. If you change the aspect ratio then the rolling diameter will change thus throwing the accuracy of your speedometer off, in your case raising it will make the speedo read higher than you are actually driving. If you go up to a 45 or 50 aspect ratio your speedometer will be about 5mph off or so. If you dont mind your speedometer being off then sure throw bigger tires on there. 19's are uncomfortable as it is, I couldn't imagine, so the more aspect ratio the more comfortable the ride
Last edited by ShocknAwe; Oct 9, 2012 at 04:41 PM.
Is there any way at all to compromise? I'm sure there are other people rolling with a bit bigger tires for 19's on a sedan. Or is it kind of a one or the other deal? And is there any way to correct the speedometer?
Btw, are these good? http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-NEW-215-35...ea6f5d&vxp=mtr
I used 235/40-18 18x8 and went through 3 sets of bent rims. Finally got tired of that and went back to the 215/55-16's. Have to admit the 18's looked great, just didn't seem to help the handling and probably in reality added a lot of unsprung weight.
go with a 245 35. or a 235 35. the side wall will be a little bigger. I'm guessing you are on a 19x8..right?
http://www.performanceplustire.com/p...erID%5B%5D=329
http://www.performanceplustire.com/p...erID%5B%5D=329
Last edited by max1008; Oct 10, 2012 at 10:49 AM.
Ok great! So, I have 85W, http://www.performanceplustire.com/p...reDataID/23790
Will that still fit?
Will that still fit?
He's already running 19s, I'm pretty sure he understands that his speedo is completely off and that his rims are heavy as crap so his mpg is suffering. He had a basic questions "what size tire will fill the wheel gap in the best without lowering it". in his beg. post he talks about snow...and lowering maybe isn't an option right now due to terrain purposes.
Go with what I said above, you can't go any bigger due to your width.
Go with what I said above, you can't go any bigger due to your width.
Rim size has NOTHING to do with the speedometers. Outside tire diameter is the ONLY measurement that matters in that respect. Unless he wants to **** up his handling, mileage, power, and economy, he needs to keep close to the same outside diameter.
To really do big rims right, you would have to change the entire suspension to accommodate the harder tire. Then add bigger brakes, and to offset the power loss you would have to go SC or turbo at minimum. No NA mods can make up for 18s or greater on a maxima meant for 16s.
I will disagree with you on the handling part, mileage, power and economy if done right. Obviously he didn't buy lighter rims than OEM (due to him painting them) but if you did this is actually what would really matter for those (WEIGHT). Getting something like Gram Lights, Volk, or Work wheels and you could be in business with more power, better handling, better mileage, and still keep to the correct speedo.
and if you would have done your calculations the size 245/35/19 is exactly that for the OEM 15" rim (off by less than a 1 mpg). Go find someone else to argue with.
I will disagree with you on the handling part, mileage, power and economy if done right. Obviously he didn't buy lighter rims than OEM (due to him painting them) but if you did this is actually what would really matter for those (WEIGHT). Getting something like Gram Lights, Volk, or Work wheels and you could be in business with more power, better handling, better mileage, and still keep to the correct speedo.
I will disagree with you on the handling part, mileage, power and economy if done right. Obviously he didn't buy lighter rims than OEM (due to him painting them) but if you did this is actually what would really matter for those (WEIGHT). Getting something like Gram Lights, Volk, or Work wheels and you could be in business with more power, better handling, better mileage, and still keep to the correct speedo.
and if you would have done your calculations the size 245/35/19 is exactly that for the OEM 15" rim (off by less than a 1 mpg). Go find someone else to argue with.
I will disagree with you on the handling part, mileage, power and economy if done right. Obviously he didn't buy lighter rims than OEM (due to him painting them) but if you did this is actually what would really matter for those (WEIGHT). Getting something like Gram Lights, Volk, or Work wheels and you could be in business with more power, better handling, better mileage, and still keep to the correct speedo.
I will disagree with you on the handling part, mileage, power and economy if done right. Obviously he didn't buy lighter rims than OEM (due to him painting them) but if you did this is actually what would really matter for those (WEIGHT). Getting something like Gram Lights, Volk, or Work wheels and you could be in business with more power, better handling, better mileage, and still keep to the correct speedo.
umm not really following you on your comparison..but ok. I could see a 5lb and a 2.5lb rock. (5lb being the 16" and the 19" being the the 2.5).
Last edited by max1008; Oct 16, 2012 at 08:08 AM.
asand1, rim size does affect, you just compensate by means of tires. if you were to get a rim so big (24) you could not compensate by tire to keep the same diameter. The OP stated his rim and tire size and I was giving him a tire to go with to help the BEST with wheel gap with what was given. I'm not saying you are completely wrong with your taller wheel theory, I'm just saying that it can be done correct.
What taller wheel theory? I'm talking about tire diameter affects.
If a TIRE has a rolling radius of 28", it doesn't make any difference whether the wheel is 14" or 19".
You are just like the rest of these fast&furious wannabees that can't tell the difference between a wheel and a tire. I'm done with you and this thread. I'm blocking you because you are not intelligent enough to conduct an informed discussion with, nor are you willing to see reason or comprehend basic mathematic principles.
If a TIRE has a rolling radius of 28", it doesn't make any difference whether the wheel is 14" or 19".
You are just like the rest of these fast&furious wannabees that can't tell the difference between a wheel and a tire. I'm done with you and this thread. I'm blocking you because you are not intelligent enough to conduct an informed discussion with, nor are you willing to see reason or comprehend basic mathematic principles.
Last edited by asand1; Oct 16, 2012 at 09:08 AM.
Then, the same 5 lb rock being swung around by a 24" string.
You work much harder turning that same rock on the longer string.
That's the same effect with bigger rims. Bigger rims have the heavier metal weight along the outside circumference of the wheel, which on the smaller rims was either air, or rubber, both of which are lighter than metal.
On my previous maxima I used to have 17s in the summer and 15s in the winter. Same suspension, same brakes etc. The 17s looked great but I took a toll on everything else.
This time around I'm sticking with 16s and doing what I can to make them look bigger. Suspension drop, spacers etc. Any mod I do to the engine to make power I dont want to lose to the bigger, prettier rims. And, I'm sticking to NA. Boost is way way way more than I need or want.
What taller wheel theory? I'm talking about tire diameter affects.
If a TIRE has a rolling radius of 28", it doesn't make any difference whether the wheel is 14" or 19".
You are just like the rest of these fast&furious wannabees that can't tell the difference between a wheel and a tire. I'm done .with you and this thread. I'm blocking you because you are not intelligent enough to conduct an informed discussion with, nor are you willing to see reason or comprehend basic mathematic principles.
If a TIRE has a rolling radius of 28", it doesn't make any difference whether the wheel is 14" or 19".
You are just like the rest of these fast&furious wannabees that can't tell the difference between a wheel and a tire. I'm done .with you and this thread. I'm blocking you because you are not intelligent enough to conduct an informed discussion with, nor are you willing to see reason or comprehend basic mathematic principles.
Oops you deleted me and can't read it. Cool
You are not even in the original topic. He wants to run taller tires to fill his wheel gap. Taller tires absolutely will cause all the stated problems. Why people even brought up wheel size is beyond me. Using the term rims while describing tires is a fallacy. Rims equal wheels. Rim size alone will not affect tire diameter, because aspect ratio can be changed to compensate.
asand1, rim size does affect, you just compensate by means of tires. if you were to get a rim so big (24) you could not compensate by tire to keep the same diameter. The OP stated his rim and tire size and I was giving him a tire to go with to help the BEST with wheel gap with what was given. I'm not saying you are completely wrong with your taller wheel theory, I'm just saying that it can be done correct.
Last edited by ShocknAwe; Oct 16, 2012 at 06:22 PM.
Personally I'd go with Kuhmos, not that I have anything against BFgoodrich rubber shocknawe, just he said 600 dollar budget, $150 per tire... maybe you know someone I don't, but thats an amazing deal and I personally have never seen it, and for the money I've never had a pair of kuhmos do anything crazy on me, good tires. Oh and OP, do like little john said oh so long ago, and GET LOW!!!!
Personally I'd go with Kuhmos, not that I have anything against BFgoodrich rubber shocknawe, just he said 600 dollar budget, $150 per tire... maybe you know someone I don't, but thats an amazing deal and I personally have never seen it, and for the money I've never had a pair of kuhmos do anything crazy on me, good tires.
Oh the extrah "h" is silent in kuhmo broh? didnt you knowh?
This is what the OP was asking and this is what I responded too as well max1008 and trust me, it is true. Changing the aspect ratio while keeping the rim size the same changes rolling diameter and the speedo becomes inaccurate. Like asand said, rim size to a point, doesnt matter because you compensate with the aspect ratio of the tire. The aspect ratio of a tire is what keeps the rolling diameter as close to stock size as possible. Max1008, we know what we are talking about here
There is no 19 that is lighter than an OEM 15" or 16" wheel, impossible. Nobody who want performance puts 19's on
no aspect ratio tire will compensate for a 24" rim. Also, not a theory
There is no 19 that is lighter than an OEM 15" or 16" wheel, impossible. Nobody who want performance puts 19's on
no aspect ratio tire will compensate for a 24" rim. Also, not a theory
Last edited by max1008; Oct 18, 2012 at 05:18 AM.
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