some questions about maintenance
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some questions about maintenance
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i have my brothers maxima for a little while and noticed that he has not done any maintenance other than oil changes
has 15k miles
2009
i was reading the maintenance book and it says to do the 30k service at 30k or 24months.
this car is 4-5 years old already.
should i get the 30k service done now?
which changes the transmission oil, coolant, differential oil (not sure if the maxima gets this?), replace engine drive belt..
anything else that i should get done to this car at this point?
thanks!
new member here
i have my brothers maxima for a little while and noticed that he has not done any maintenance other than oil changes
has 15k miles
2009
i was reading the maintenance book and it says to do the 30k service at 30k or 24months.
this car is 4-5 years old already.
should i get the 30k service done now?
which changes the transmission oil, coolant, differential oil (not sure if the maxima gets this?), replace engine drive belt..
anything else that i should get done to this car at this point?
thanks!
Last edited by sonycrr; Nov 28, 2013 at 05:44 AM.
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Hey
new member here
i have my brothers maxima for a little while and noticed that he has not done any maintenance other than oil changes
has 15k miles
2009
i was reading the maintenance book and it says to do the 30k service at 30k or 24months.
this car is 4-5 years old already.
should i get the 30k service done now?
which changes the transmission oil, coolant, differential oil (not sure if the maxima gets this?), replace engine drive belt..
anything else that i should get done to this car at this point?
thanks!
new member here
i have my brothers maxima for a little while and noticed that he has not done any maintenance other than oil changes
has 15k miles
2009
i was reading the maintenance book and it says to do the 30k service at 30k or 24months.
this car is 4-5 years old already.
should i get the 30k service done now?
which changes the transmission oil, coolant, differential oil (not sure if the maxima gets this?), replace engine drive belt..
anything else that i should get done to this car at this point?
thanks!
Tranny fluid, coolant, etc has never been touched
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Manual on m '12 called for a brake fluid change at 15k. That has been a change from older version 7th Gens I believe. I got the changed and noticed an immediate difference in the feel of the peddle and bite range.
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I thought the 09's had some crazy 10 year CVT warranty ?
My dealers 15K service includes
In Cabin Filter, oil, wiper blades, change brake fluid, tire rotation, replace wiper blades reset tpms inspect CVT fluid and a host of other things for $260
Might not be a bad idea since the car is getting old.
I only say to do this because the in cabin filters can start to smell and Nissan recommends changing brake fluid on these cars every 15K
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Compared to other cars the Maxima service intervals seem excessive. The engine oil monitors on other cars basically required oil change at 8-10K. Why a much shorter interval on the Maxima. Other high compression engines with turbocharges which are more severely stressed like a BMW 535 require oil change at 1 year interval. What is special on the Maxima engine? Is it just more profit for the car dealer?
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Compared to other cars the Maxima service intervals seem excessive. The engine oil monitors on other cars basically required oil change at 8-10K. Why a much shorter interval on the Maxima. Other high compression engines with turbocharges which are more severely stressed like a BMW 535 require oil change at 1 year interval. What is special on the Maxima engine? Is it just more profit for the car dealer?
Change oil once a year, yikes!
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Compared to other cars the Maxima service intervals seem excessive. The engine oil monitors on other cars basically required oil change at 8-10K. Why a much shorter interval on the Maxima. Other high compression engines with turbocharges which are more severely stressed like a BMW 535 require oil change at 1 year interval. What is special on the Maxima engine? Is it just more profit for the car dealer?
BMW's have factory synthetic oil that needs to be changed less often than Dino oil and most BMW owners will tell you the reason the maint is so stretched out is because it's included in the price of the car for 4 years so BMW has less expenses.
The Nissan dealer near me charges $25 for an oil and filter change, any $$ is made on the upsell
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We have a few posters kidding around here about the CVT/non-CVT thingie with the 2009 Maxima. In case any newbies may be wondering, EVERY 2009 Maxima has a CVT.
Even further, the last Maxima ever built without a CVT tranny was a 2006 model built in July of 2006. All Maximas built since then have a CVT tranny. No other tranny options have been available on any Maxima since the 2006 model year.
The dealer has a CVT fluid checking device that enables a quick check to determine if the CVT fluid needs changing. Although Nissan recommends that the fluid be checked at 30K miles, Nissan also says that, under normal driving conditions, the fluid will be fine until 60K, at which point I would change the fluid, even if the service test says it is still OK.
Those driving regularly on unpaved roads, driving very aggressively or pulling trailers may opt to switch earlier, say at 30K or 45K.
Even further, the last Maxima ever built without a CVT tranny was a 2006 model built in July of 2006. All Maximas built since then have a CVT tranny. No other tranny options have been available on any Maxima since the 2006 model year.
The dealer has a CVT fluid checking device that enables a quick check to determine if the CVT fluid needs changing. Although Nissan recommends that the fluid be checked at 30K miles, Nissan also says that, under normal driving conditions, the fluid will be fine until 60K, at which point I would change the fluid, even if the service test says it is still OK.
Those driving regularly on unpaved roads, driving very aggressively or pulling trailers may opt to switch earlier, say at 30K or 45K.
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We have a few posters kidding around here about the CVT/non-CVT thingie with the 2009 Maxima. In case any newbies may be wondering, EVERY 2009 Maxima has a CVT.
Even further, the last Maxima ever built without a CVT tranny was a 2006 model built in July of 2006. All Maximas built since then have a CVT tranny. No other tranny options have been available on any Maxima since the 2006 model year.
The dealer has a CVT fluid checking device that enables a quick check to determine if the CVT fluid needs changing. Although Nissan recommends that the fluid be checked at 30K miles, Nissan also says that, under normal driving conditions, the fluid will be fine until 60K, at which point I would change the fluid, even if the service test says it is still OK.
Those driving regularly on unpaved roads, driving very aggressively or pulling trailers may opt to switch earlier, say at 30K or 45K.
Even further, the last Maxima ever built without a CVT tranny was a 2006 model built in July of 2006. All Maximas built since then have a CVT tranny. No other tranny options have been available on any Maxima since the 2006 model year.
The dealer has a CVT fluid checking device that enables a quick check to determine if the CVT fluid needs changing. Although Nissan recommends that the fluid be checked at 30K miles, Nissan also says that, under normal driving conditions, the fluid will be fine until 60K, at which point I would change the fluid, even if the service test says it is still OK.
Those driving regularly on unpaved roads, driving very aggressively or pulling trailers may opt to switch earlier, say at 30K or 45K.
thanks for the info!
didnt know this.
the only time i went wot was in manual mode..fast car
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Ever since I remember oil changes are done at 3000-3500k, Nissan asks for 3750k change intervals - perfectly normal to me. The premium service asks for many things that can be skipped and done later, however if much rather follow the fluid change intervals for peace of mind.
Change oil once a year, yikes!
Change oil once a year, yikes!
You are not up to date on engine oils or the Nissan requirements. SAE classifies engine oil with ratings. Originally it was SA oil which lacked many of the properties of current modern SN oil. Current SN oil has improved performance characteristics such as improved high temperature deposit protection for pistons, more stringent sludge and oxidation control and seals compatibility. Therefore practically all auto manufacturers changed the oil change interval to 7,500 miles unless driven in severe conditions.
In fact if you read the Nissan maintenance manual it sates that oil changes are recommended every 7,500 miles or 6 months unless driven in severe conditions where it should be done at 3,750 or 6 month intervals
PS sever conditions requiring oil change at 3,750 miles are:
● Repeated short trips of less than 5 miles in normal temperatures or less than 10 miles in freezing temperatures.
● Stop-and-go traffic in hot weather or low speed driving for long distances.
● Driving in dusty conditions or on rough muddy, or salt-spread roads or Towing a trailer
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You are not up to date on engine oils or the Nissan requirements. SAE classifies engine oil with ratings. Originally it was SA oil which lacked many of the properties of current modern SN oil. Current SN oil has improved performance characteristics such as improved high temperature deposit protection for pistons, more stringent sludge and oxidation control and seals compatibility. Therefore practically all auto manufacturers changed the oil change interval to 7,500 miles unless driven in severe conditions. In fact if you read the Nissan maintenance manual it sates that oil changes are recommended every 7,500 miles or 6 months unless driven in severe conditions where it should be done at 3,750 or 6 month intervals PS sever conditions requiring oil change at 3,750 miles are: ● Repeated short trips of less than 5 miles in normal temperatures or less than 10 miles in freezing temperatures. ● Stop-and-go traffic in hot weather or low speed driving for long distances. ● Driving in dusty conditions or on rough muddy, or salt-spread roads or Towing a trailer
Thats only speaking for me though.
I suspect Nissan just made a blanket statement to have EVERYONE do changes at intervals of 3750. Does everyone use the same oil, no. Does everyone drive the same, no. So to be safe it's much better to change your oil at the Nissan Recommended intervals.
I've driven Nissans all my life, owned 5 of em. The only time I changed oil at 7500k was with synthetic Mobil1, never would I do a change using Dino at that high of mileage.
Btw I use Nissan Ester oil and it's nothing special aside from the Ester additives and it still requires a change at 3750.
That is all.
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Bud, don't get technical on me. In fact read your manual too. I did. It states, change oil at every 3750. I don't think you wrote the manual, nor do you know the type of oil I use or my driving conditions nor have you read my UOA.
Thats only speaking for me though.
I suspect Nissan just made a blanket statement to have EVERYONE do changes at intervals of 3750. Does everyone use the same oil, no. Does everyone drive the same, no. So to be safe it's much better to change your oil at the Nissan Recommended intervals.
I've driven Nissans all my life, owned 5 of em. The only time I changed oil at 7500k was with synthetic Mobil1, never would I do a change using Dino at that high of mileage.
Btw I use Nissan Ester oil and it's nothing special aside from the Ester additives and it still requires a change at 3750.
That is all.
Thats only speaking for me though.
I suspect Nissan just made a blanket statement to have EVERYONE do changes at intervals of 3750. Does everyone use the same oil, no. Does everyone drive the same, no. So to be safe it's much better to change your oil at the Nissan Recommended intervals.
I've driven Nissans all my life, owned 5 of em. The only time I changed oil at 7500k was with synthetic Mobil1, never would I do a change using Dino at that high of mileage.
Btw I use Nissan Ester oil and it's nothing special aside from the Ester additives and it still requires a change at 3750.
That is all.
Sorry about being technical but lets not dummy down the forum users. I practiced engineering for over 4 decades and can't help myself being technical. In reference to your comments:
1. Read page 15 of your maintenance manual. It clearly states that for normal service (schedule 2 , less severe) oil changes are required for the Titan and Armada at 3,750 miles and all other models at 7,500 miles.
2. Unless you stocked engine oil from years ago, oil available now is SN oil.
If you want to over-maintain your car it is your prerogative. Although oil change shops rip off customers by telling them to come back for oil changes at 3,000 miles, lets not try to convey the message that the normal oil change interval for the Maxima is 3,750 miles.
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Sorry about being technical but lets not dummy down the forum users. I practiced engineering for over 4 decades and can't help myself being technical. In reference to your comments: 1. Read page 15 of your maintenance manual. It clearly states that for normal service (schedule 2 , less severe) oil changes are required for the Titan and Armada at 3,750 miles and all other models at 7,500 miles. 2. Unless you stocked engine oil from years ago, oil available now is SN oil. If you want to over-maintain your car it is your prerogative. Although oil change shops rip off customers by telling them to come back for oil changes at 3,000 miles, lets not try to convey the message that the normal oil change interval for the Maxima is 3,750 miles.
Maybe we're talking about two different things. But I don't think Im reading my manuals incorrectly.
Anyways, to each his own. I think we're both chasing our tail here...
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PS sever conditions requiring oil change at 3,750 miles are:
● Repeated short trips of less than 5 miles in normal temperatures or less than 10 miles in freezing temperatures.
● Stop-and-go traffic in hot weather or low speed driving for long distances.
● Driving in dusty conditions or on rough muddy, or salt-spread roads or Towing a trailer
It's pretty safe to say a car with 15K miles in ~ 5 years is also used for short trips
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Hey
new member here
i have my brothers maxima for a little while and noticed that he has not done any maintenance other than oil changes
has 15k miles
2009
i was reading the maintenance book and it says to do the 30k service at 30k or 24months.
this car is 4-5 years old already.
should i get the 30k service done now?
which changes the transmission oil, coolant, differential oil (not sure if the maxima gets this?), replace engine drive belt..
anything else that i should get done to this car at this point?
thanks!
new member here
i have my brothers maxima for a little while and noticed that he has not done any maintenance other than oil changes
has 15k miles
2009
i was reading the maintenance book and it says to do the 30k service at 30k or 24months.
this car is 4-5 years old already.
should i get the 30k service done now?
which changes the transmission oil, coolant, differential oil (not sure if the maxima gets this?), replace engine drive belt..
anything else that i should get done to this car at this point?
thanks!
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The only time Nissan recommends changing oil at 7500 is only on the very first oil change. Change intervals thereafter call for every 3750k.
Maybe we're talking about two different things. But I don't think Im reading my manuals incorrectly.
Anyways, to each his own. I think we're both chasing our tail here...
Maybe we're talking about two different things. But I don't think Im reading my manuals incorrectly.
Anyways, to each his own. I think we're both chasing our tail here...
If you read the maintenance manual more carefully you will find that only the Titan and Armada need continuous oil changes at 3750 miles. The Maxima at 7,500 miles intervals for less sever service.
Changing oil more frequently than needed is just a waste of money and lines the pockets of dealers and oil change stations.
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Ok ok you win this one bud!
I consider my driving habits to fall under the more severe category, hence my stubbornness to not agree with you and simple oversight in this argument
I agree that changing oil to frequently is a waste of money.
I consider my driving habits to fall under the more severe category, hence my stubbornness to not agree with you and simple oversight in this argument
I agree that changing oil to frequently is a waste of money.
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If you read the maintenance manual more carefully you will find that only the Titan and Armada need continuous oil changes at 3750 miles. The Maxima at 7,500 miles intervals for less sever service.
Changing oil more frequently than needed is just a waste of money and lines the pockets of dealers and oil change stations.
Changing oil more frequently than needed is just a waste of money and lines the pockets of dealers and oil change stations.
My local Nissan dealer charges $25 for an oil change, without an upsell they at best break even on the deal it's an oil change/Filter, car wash and 70 point ( the upsell) inspection which all told takes 45 minutes I'm sure.
Not to mention Nisan requires cars under warranty to be maintained. As I said , a good portion of this country falls under schedule 1 based simply on where they live.
After the warranty expires do as you wish but to save ~ $125 ( 5 oil changes) and risking having your warranty voided seems quite foolish especially when there is a TSB regarding a bearing issue that I'm sure Nissan would love to void rather that pay the ~$10k cost of a short block and labor
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