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Old Feb 14, 2002 | 11:03 AM
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pic of hybrid intake

Here's a pic of my hybrid intake. It consist of the PR upper tube and the filter that came with the PR CAI kit. Not pretty, but works great.








Also, here's a pic of my spark plug cover that I repainted silver to match my polished valve cover. Now the blue oil cap that I bought doesn't match up...lol.

Old Feb 14, 2002 | 11:23 AM
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looks good, any benefits?

and couldnt we just make something like that? I mean the top part of a CAI, can you not just take out that plenum and connect the 2 hoses. I bet i sound stupid.
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 11:34 AM
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Hey man, do you know the part # for that K&N Filter? if so can you please post it
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 11:40 AM
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Hey man, do you know the part # for that K&N Filter? if so can you please post it
RU-2820 Don't ask me how I know off the top of my head.
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Re: looks good, any benefits?

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and couldnt we just make something like that? I mean the top part of a CAI, can you not just take out that plenum and connect the 2 hoses. I bet i sound stupid.
You cant connect the two side hoses together. One is Idle Air Control and one is a crankcase vent.
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 11:51 AM
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Re: looks good, any benefits?

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and couldnt we just make something like that? I mean the top part of a CAI, can you not just take out that plenum and connect the 2 hoses. I bet i sound stupid.

You could try asking dmbmaxima, I think he is developing something similar to mine for a 4th gen.

It might look simple, but you can definitely feel the power. When I stomp on the gas, I would peel out and chirp 2nd gear, sometimes even 3rd gear on the street. I don't know if it's the added power or I have bad tires(stock rims, stock tires). However, I couldn't do that before the hybrid intake, so I think it made a difference.
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Then how do you do it?
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 12:45 PM
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did u have to get an intake adaptor from the maf to the intake?
cuz i think my CAI has that piece already, but its attached to the lower tube with the rubber gasket thingies, just wanna know
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 12:53 PM
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What kind of filter were you running that you felt gains over it now? Was it the stock airbox or a cone or soemthing?

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How do you take care of the vacuum lines?
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How do you take care of the vacuum lines?
There arent any. There are the two big hoses (IAC and crank case vent). There is one little hose wich isnt vacuum, its an EGT vent.

FYI, there is no vaccum upstream of the throttle plate.
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There arent any. There are the two big hoses (IAC and crank case vent). There is one little hose wich isnt vacuum, its an EGT vent.

FYI, there is no vaccum upstream of the throttle plate.

Then how do you take care of those? IAC and the EGT vent?

Hehe! I'm smart enough to figure out what to do with the crankcase vent
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Re: Re: looks good, any benefits?

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You could try asking dmbmaxima, I think he is developing something similar to mine for a 4th gen.

It might look simple, but you can definitely feel the power. When I stomp on the gas, I would peel out and chirp 2nd gear, sometimes even 3rd gear on the street. I don't know if it's the added power or I have bad tires(stock rims, stock tires). However, I couldn't do that before the hybrid intake, so I think it made a difference.
cumalot, man I feel for you bro.

I don't think I could calmly give up a supercharger and change to a hybrid simple intake. I know you had to, but damn that beautiful rush is gone
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While we are on this subject can anyone tell me what the benefit of installing little breather filters off the crankcase would be? (The filters that look like miniature K&N filters.) I saw a pic of one recently and couldn't think of any benefits except maybe looks.
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While we are on this subject can anyone tell me what the benefit of installing little breather filters off the crankcase would be? (The filters that look like miniature K&N filters.) I saw a pic of one recently and couldn't think of any benefits except maybe looks.
Not much benefit, if your car has exssesive blow by, then your intake tract will have some oil in it....if you leave the hose, if you put the breather, than your intake tract will be clean for the most part.
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Not much benefit, if your car has exssesive blow by, then your intake tract will have some oil in it....if you leave the hose, if you put the breather, than your intake tract will be clean for the most part.
Thanks for the info. All I was able to gather was that it was for the positive crankcase ventilation system from a search. Now I have seen a few rides where it looked like their breather filters are oily so I guess that's what you were talking about with the excess blow-by. One more thing if you were to install one of these breather filters on the crankcase then you'd need one for the other side of the hose too, on the intake? Right?
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 02:35 PM
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dude...

i saw ur pic and finally decided i wsa gonna switch over from the CAI to the hybrid, its so much better, i have to say, i noticed small low end loss, almost not noticeblae, but since im sensitive to my car i noticed it, but now having the y pipe and the upper intake, the high end is sick!!! it absolutely rushes to the the redline! im hittin 70 at 5.5k on the tach now. i reccomend it, only for sticks not for autotragics
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As some of you know I had a CAI before so I know what that felt like. IMO, with this hybrid intake setup, my car feels more powerful than ever. Maybe it's just my car, but I didn't notice any low end loss at all. I got power all the way through. I do have the VB mod though, maybe that helps a bit.


Of course I miss my SC. Well, sort of. With a SC, you can't just install it and think that's all to it. I'm not all out into speed anymore, so just a decent amount of power is good enough for me...for now anyway.
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 04:57 PM
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that intake is better on the fwy.
but on the street the cai is better.

ive switched back and forth many times.
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by buss95max
that intake is better on the fwy.
but on the street the cai is better.

ive switched back and forth many times.

Not to me. Maybe my car is different.
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 08:25 PM
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Not to me. Maybe my car is different.
seriously, from 2.5k and up it shoots to the redline, with my CAI i had decent power to about 3.5, i prefer this setup, ill probably go back to CAI in summer
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 08:32 PM
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I'm going to try to see first hand if the hybrid intake or CAI is better the next time I go to the track. We'll know for sure then.
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Originally posted by Cumalot
I'm going to try to see first hand if the hybrid intake or CAI is better the next time I go to the track. We'll know for sure then.
looks good. what year maxima do you have?? are you planning to dyno the hybrid intake? where can i get my hands on some spare CAI piping?? i currently have a pop charger..
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 08:39 PM
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could you leave everything stock up to the MAF and where the airbox was, convert that to a K&N air filter? i think someonw did this a looong time ago...? would you still get good gains? (btw, im poor )
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 09:21 PM
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Nice
reminds me of Frankencar intake....

Where is NightRider or Papasmurf? You guys should see/hear the intake papasmurf has, that thing sounds amazing, you should feel the pull of it... Supposedly it has no low/high end losses, strong throughout... sounds amazing. Once it's available i'll definately try it out!
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Originally posted by DrivinDaMax98
could you leave everything stock up to the MAF and where the airbox was, convert that to a K&N air filter? i think someonw did this a looong time ago...? would you still get good gains? (btw, im poor )
yea...it's called the "BrianV intake" do a search on it....
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yea...it's called the "BrianV intake" do a search on it....
yeah thats it now i remember.. does this have the same kind of gains?
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yeah thats it now i remember.. does this have the same kind of gains?

pretty much the same as the hybrid. I used to run a similar setup for about a year.

I went from stock, brianV intake, adapter/cone, PR hybrid, and now full CAI.
I deff. did feel a loss at high speeds with the cai but there are good gains at low speeds too so me being an auto and do 90% of driving in the city, im sticking with cai for now until I miss the high end power and decide to go hybrid again. also a lil iffy on the foam filter thing too so Im gonna look for that K&N that Cumalot has.

hey Y2kevse, how much did the KN cost?
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Originally posted by Cumalot
I'm going to try to see first hand if the hybrid intake or CAI is better the next time I go to the track. We'll know for sure then.
under the hood i ran a 15.1@89mph
with the cai i ran a 15.2@90mph

yes i ran .1 faster with it under the hood, but my mph was 1 up with the cai. the difference between runs is ~.07
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seriously, from 2.5k and up it shoots to the redline, with my CAI i had decent power to about 3.5, i prefer this setup, ill probably go back to CAI in summer
FINALLY!..someone has seen the light...the cai is dope, but it dies at 5.5k(im automatic)...
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I have an auto and am planning to get a CAI very soon but I have a question. When you say "losses" are you saying that the benefit of the intake falls off at upper RPM's compared to lower RPM's or compared to stock? In other words, does the CAI help in all RPM ranges or does it benefit the low end and hurt the high end compared to stock?
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Originally posted by exhip95
I have an auto and am planning to get a CAI very soon but I have a question. When you say "losses" are you saying that the benefit of the intake falls off at upper RPM's compared to lower RPM's or compared to stock? In other words, does the CAI help in all RPM ranges or does it benefit the low end and hurt the high end compared to stock?
the benefit of the CAI falls off at high rpms compared to the popcharger. you do not LOSE any power compared to stock at upper rpms, you actually gain more power but nothing as noticeable as a popcharger at high rpms. i dont know why, this has been discussed a long time ago, but thats the conclusion, CAI is better at lower rpms for autos and worse at the topend.
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the benefit of the CAI falls off at high rpms compared to the popcharger. you do not LOSE any power compared to stock at upper rpms, you actually gain more power but nothing as noticeable as a popcharger at high rpms. i dont know why, this has been discussed a long time ago, but thats the conclusion, CAI is better at lower rpms for autos and worse at the topend.

Thanks for the clarification. I don't plan to race this car, well I might run it once or twice just to see what it will do when I am done. I am looking for things that will give real world (street driven) gains. Looks like I'll be talkin' to Greg at custommaxima.com about the CAI and Dallas at WSP about the Y-pipe next weekend.



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You can remove the EGR system if you want. But you will need the IAC for sure.

Originally posted by NmexMAX

Then how do you take care of those? IAC and the EGT vent?

Hehe! I'm smart enough to figure out what to do with the crankcase vent
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Originally posted by exhip95



Thanks for the clarification. I don't plan to race this car, well I might run it once or twice just to see what it will do when I am done. I am looking for things that will give real world (street driven) gains. Looks like I'll be talkin' to Greg at custommaxima.com about the CAI and Dallas at WSP about the Y-pipe next weekend.



why not give the WSP CAI a try? i will be doing that soon enough. I havent heard much about it but it seems like the same thing as the PRCAI, but cheaper. but im going to order just the top of the cai to make the hybrid.
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No. Just put a rubber cap on it. If not, you will screw up the MAF readings.

Originally posted by Ravq

Thanks for the info. All I was able to gather was that it was for the positive crankcase ventilation system from a search. Now I have seen a few rides where it looked like their breather filters are oily so I guess that's what you were talking about with the excess blow-by. One more thing if you were to install one of these breather filters on the crankcase then you'd need one for the other side of the hose too, on the intake? Right?
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Does anyone have a dyno for 95 5-spd with y-pipe (preferrably Cattman) and CAI or Just a pop charger? I am dynoing my car next week and will dyno just the hybrid, as it is a group thing and we can swap it to the different intakes, but I was wondering if we have anything to compare it to. Obviously each car is different and conditions will be different, but we still may be able to physically see where each intake works best when so that people may be able to decide what they want to do with their car.
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why not give the WSP CAI a try? i will be doing that soon enough. I havent heard much about it but it seems like the same thing as the PRCAI, but cheaper. but im going to order just the top of the cai to make the hybrid.
I looked into the CAI from WSP a while ago and it didnt come with a K&N and the PR did. But after reading all the replies to this thread again it seems like the PR doesn't come with one now and the WSP does. I will probably get both the 304ss tig welded Y w/cat and CAI from WSP at the same time. Because I live in Florida I think the ss Y and the full CAI will work better for me. Besides, I like the black CAI on their site. It looks almost like an OEM part. I'm just a little impatient after I finally decide to order things and I've heard some people complain about shipping times from them. It's really not that big of a deal because their prices are GREAT (ss Y w/cat for the same price as Cattman Y alone not to mention the CAI)so I guess it's worth the possible wait.

Do you think it's true that by doing both of these mods at the same time I can expect a big HP gain without getting much louder than stock? I really like the "sleeper" aspect. Makes the taste of beating down the many thousands of riced out Civics around here so much sweeter...
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I looked into the CAI from WSP a while ago and it didnt come with a K&N and the PR did. But after reading all the replies to this thread again it seems like the PR doesn't come with one now and the WSP does. I will probably get both the 304ss tig welded Y w/cat and CAI from WSP at the same time. Because I live in Florida I think the ss Y and the full CAI will work better for me. Besides, I like the black CAI on their site. It looks almost like an OEM part. I'm just a little impatient after I finally decide to order things and I've heard some people complain about shipping times from them. It's really not that big of a deal because their prices are GREAT (ss Y w/cat for the same price as Cattman Y alone not to mention the CAI)so I guess it's worth the possible wait.

Do you think it's true that by doing both of these mods at the same time I can expect a big HP gain without getting much louder than stock? I really like the "sleeper" aspect. Makes the taste of beating down the many thousands of riced out Civics around here so much sweeter...

i duno how important the stainless steel y pipe is if u live in florida,could just use an aluminized one just sayin u could save a few bucks
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PR CAI's

I just installed my PR CAI on Sunday. So far I like it a lot. It came with the new Monster Filter which despite being foam, seems pretty good so far. It does look lower in quality than a K&N and one day I may try the K&N to see the difference. Basically, besides the sweet sound that it makes, I feel more power in the 4.5-5.5k RPM range. I'm automagic, so it's nice. I get on the freeway and punch it and when I get into that range I can feel the extra power and have to really hold the car planted and straight because the pull is really amazing. Today I drove 100 miles at high speeds (80+) most of the way and it felt pretty good, I wasn't going for a land speed record. It was a little noisier than usual, and there was a little more vibration in the steering wheel and gas pedal, but it's just enought to let you know the power is there.

Unfortunately, I drive that stretch about twice a week and I'm not sure yet, but it does feel like I'm lacking a little something on that upper end. But the rest of the time, getting on and off freeways and pulling quick from a light is great.
Just my $0.02.



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