im hoping none of you can relate to this,an explanation would be nice as even my mechanic could not figure it out.
last night driving on a straight road the light ahead turned red ,there were parked cars on my right and one in front of me. i went to apply the brakes to slow the car down NOTHING. i pushed the brakes again the passengers in my car said slow down as we approached the stopped car in front of us.i said the brakes wernt working. i pushed them again down far then pulled the e brake up,still rolling it did nothing put the car in park,continuing to roll. i swerved the car right narroly missing a parked car and a stoped car almost scratching the paint of my girl. my friend panics and grabs the ebrake and pulls it up a few more clicks still nothing. i smash the breaks down again and finally the car stops. i got out and layed on the ground in pure panic i thought the car was gone for good.you have no idea how thank full i was that we finally stopped.we pulled the car over and jacked it up looking under for leaking brake fluid.nothing at all.

the mechanic said the master brake cylinder may have failed, or that there could be an internal leak in the brake line.
but with a leak in the break fluid this would not allow the brakes to work at all so i dont think thats it.i let the car cool off for 30 minutes before driving it again to my friends where i left it.
i was so scared that i had lost controll of everything there was nothing i could do to stop my car.

the brakes are fine now i have not had any more problems since. my mechanic test drove my car with me in it and tested everything and it worked fine.

my car has 82 000 miles and is a 96 Se
i had been driving around 4 hours before this happened so i also thougth maybe the brakes could have overheated causing them to fail temporary.


thanks any help is much apreaciated
-Blake

 

You would not have continued to roll if you put the trans in Park. Please dont embelish your stories.

One more thing, it's spelled B-R-A-K-E-S

 

Be thankful I didn't delete this thread entirely.

 

i wanna know what he said.

 

man, sorry to hear that. kinda scary cuz my brakes doesn't work too well either. at least you are safe. if that's the car under your sig that u messed up, my condolences.

 

no im not thankfull, in asking a question all i get are some cocky remarks from the moderator insisting that im lying.this board is about helping each other out with our cars not fighting with each other, espically a moderator i had done nothing to provoke him. what would i have to gain by saying i put it in park if i hadent,with the car in park and the car still moving i consider that a huge problem.im trying to locate the problem of this so i can hopefully prevent it from happening again and possibly killing myself and others in the car. i figured a maxima forum would be the best place to come for help on what happened, and the last person i expected to get sh*t from would be a moderator.

i will be checking to see if anyone can help me with this problem and after that i will not be returning.

 

I totally agree with you 24KP-I-M-P, what those two moderators have said was totally uncalled for and not what you would expect to hear from a moderator. IMO they owe you a apology.

 

:shrug: Fine ... not like you've been a tremendous help to others anyways. In fact, I have several records (ie. proof) of you making smart-*** comments to others. Just because you're not a moderator doesn't mean you can make smart-*** comment either. You've had a history of making rude and pointless remakes.

I could have deleted this entire thread and left you hanging after you typed everything out. Instead, I delete your comment and leave this thread up for others to see. You wanted help, I left this up so others can help you. Based on your history, I could have deleted this thread. But I didn't.

If you aren't grateful for that, then leave, fine. Not like you were a big help or a model member of the forum anyways.

 

Please know what was deleted and what this member has said in the past before you come butting in with your opinions.

Thank you.

 

Two wrongs dont make a right. never have, never will. I'm out of this topic

 

moderators are people like us. what makes them "moderators" is that they take the time from their normal lives to help keep this forum running smoothly. they arent super-beings born without the ability to argue or get annoyed by other people. they arent moderators because they're programmed to be neutral in all situations. they are moderators because they put extra effort into this board. whenever you finish a conversation/arguement with a moderator you should end it with "thank you very much, moderator clee [for example]"

 

Yeah, i think you are misreading what I said, but I also understand where you are coming from. I myself could never handle or have the patience for being a moderator, and I must say this forum is alot more well run then other I frequent at. Just saying in that instance, it was uncalled for. "Thank you very much, Newman96SE"


Back to the original problem now.
which btw, I cant solve

 

is it even possible to put the car into park while it's moving and not kill the tranny

Conrad

 

anytime. the name's Ryan

 

I want your car too btw

 

Back to the brake problem, don't all cars have dual master cylinders that if one part of the cylinder fails you still have brakes on the front or the back end which ever the case may be.

 

What the heck is wrong with your car? If you pulled the E-brake you should ahve stopped unless the cable failed. The E-brake doesn't work thru the master cylinder. The other thing is that Ben is right, if you throw the car into park, that sucker is going to stop unless the parking pin in the tranny breaks.

 

and if you threw your car in park and it didn't stop your car certainly would not be working now.

 

Either your full of s#@!, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt...

The only thing I could possibly think of is you completely baked your brakes before your incident... If everything was cooked really hot then neither the pedal or parking brake would be very effective on the molten rotors and boiling pads...

Were you running very fast w/ a lot of people/weight in the car before this happened with a lot of HARD braking?

Could you smell that nasty roasted brake/cooking metal odor after you finally did stop? Often accompanied by smoke from the wheel wells...

If you did, then CONGRATULATIONS! you faded your brakes into oblivion and almost killed yourself. By a Porsche before you drive like that again........

If you did toss it into park whilst still moving there should have been a LOUD ratcheting noise as a pin in the tranny was trying to engage. Any such noise?

Hmmmmm.... curious


-RMB

 

not bad for a newbie i think he is right, if the car is fast enough putting tranny in park wont stop it, chances of hydraulics and e-brake failing at the same time is very small. May be you cooked the brakes moments before?

 

This is kinda far stretched (understatement).
First, you would have done some damage by puting the car into "Park." Definately would have broken something.
Second, for the brakes not to work (considering what you've described and other people's comments about dual master cylinders and etc.) one possible reason is that you might have some oil type material between your pads and disks for the brakes not to work. This is just a speculation. Thus providing proper friction between the two and ultimately causing no deceleration. But, to have it on all four disks is not possible unless someone is f**king with your car.

By the way, what did clee30 edit from your original post??? I'm curious to know what it is or was.

 

are you sure? my friend tried that when he was slipping on snow & all you hear is a bunch of clicks sounds like the transmission pin was trying to get into the hole from stopping the wheel move but the wheel is turning too fast & teh pin couldn't get in

 

damn you moderators got no heart, this guy almost lost his life. why the hell would he make up a story like that? i am sure he does not need the attention of the org members. I use to drive a 86 volvo and i skidded on ice one time off exit 11n on the belt....pulled the e-brake, slammed the brakes, nothing worked and i finally slammed into the toys r us parking lot where the garbage bins are...so i know where this guy is coming from. you moderators got such big ***** with your power to edit, delete and remove that you go off and say whatever you please. the man almost lost his life, give him a fuccking break...he posted his message for help or advice or whatever and you responding as if he just flammed on you....like I always been saying you guys are here to moderate not to be asssholes....and i know this post is going to get deleted but i don't really care.

 

my gawd i think he mispelled brakes once or twice in that whole post...you guys are here to moderate our spelling also?

 

I'm just wondering what was said in the original UNEDITED post to get 2 moderators to come down on him so hard?

 

FYI, it IS VERY possible to put a car into park and not damage the transmission. I've done it before in my mom's camry by accident, it was at idle speed, but you hear the pin trying to engage but the car just kept on going. So before anybody calls him FOS, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Maybe you drove with the e-brake engaged (or with the handle disengaged, but with the cable pinched from using being of a lift) and didnt realize it, and then it got so hot back there that it started boiling the brake fluid and outgassing the pad, so that would explain why the ebrake did not work. If so, the brake fluid will start to boil and then once the air bubbles get in the system the pedal will sink to the floor. Any signs of glazing on the brake pads or over heated rotors?

This is a japanese car, it does not have double chambered master cylinders like GM cars do.

 

Moderator!!! Just to let you know how to spell: REMARKS
right in the end of your sentense.
Nobody is perfect

 

I've had something similar happen to me. I was driving my dad's caravan's. The car would still move but the engine seemed stressed and engine ran hot... I noticed the van was slowing down even when coasting down hill... It turns out that the front right brake caliper siezed...I kept driving then smoke started to come out form the right side and the pedal sank to the floor with hardly any effort. I shifted to L. and slowly crawled to gas station. Poured water on the front right brake and waited for it to cool off. It drove kindof normal after cooling off. My dad had it serviced at the dealer. I think they replaced the front caliper.

 

also its spelled e-m-b-e-l-l-i-s-h so check your spelling before you correct others

 

 

Heh, ditto. A friend of mine almost destroyed the transmission on my old Mazda 626 when he decided to throw it in park while going 35 mph (the shifter wasn't working quite right, so you could move it into park without having the brake depressed). Man, I'll never forget that noise - I thought the car was shot. Glad it wasn't. Too bad I wrecked it two weeks later .

 

i know of a couple of threads that he has started that were B.S., and all it ended up being, was "yelling" back and forth. Also after a few posts in it, he'll never post in the thread again. I wouldn't be surprised if this thread is a fairy tale, or some sort of a dream.

 

We're done with this thread.