Hi, i went to get spring priced for my car and i was given the option buy the guy at the store to get either Intrax's (which lower the car 1.8in) or eibach's (1.6in drop). If anyone has used either of these springs and has lowered their car i'd love to hear some feedback on how the ride is. If anyone else used another type of spring other than the ones i have mentioned, plz post and give me your feedback on em and how much u paid for em etc... thx a lot

 

intrax are a 1.75 drop and eibach are 1.2 and 1.5 i think, not 1.6

I havent lowered it yet, but I am in the process of buying some used springs. (intrax)

sprint springs makes some (2.0 drop) and um suspension techniques does also dont know how low though

how much did they quote you on the eibachs and intrax?

 

ST lowering springs are about 189 dollars. and lower you ride hieght about 1.5 inches. i have these. but i want to go lower because there is still a wheel gap in the front of my ride. i am probably try the sprints. good luck shopping
Patrick

 

you can say goodbye to the undercarrige of your car too! one good bump, piece of debris, etc, could screw you over BADLY!! at my job I've seen Civics with adjustable coilovers set too low and it was not a pretty site underneath, and half the time the guys didn't even know it was messed up down there!! be careful, I'd go w/ 1.75" drop at most!

 

I have an '80 Celica ST that I just lowered 1.5" - now I scrape on my driveway almost every time I go in and out. Have to drive diagonal to not scrape. Makes the car handle nice though - also have many other things done to the car.

I am looking at a '93 SE today and I want to put in some Eibachs, but just wondering who has the best prices on these. $270 is what I have found so far (from tirerack.com).

Anyone have better prices?

-Jacob

 

Yeah I do...ST Springs (1.5" drop) $181.00

http://www.alamomotorsports.com

 

Does anyone have a side view of there max with the suspension tec springs,fast4en,whitymax,etc.

 

No, I meant for the Eibachs. I am looking for no more than a 1.25" drop, and I prefer a progressive rather than a static spring.

-Jacob

 

from experience I would say go with the 2" drop. The max is so hi that this wont be dangerous. I myself have a 4" drop and my tires are right inside the wheelwheels. If you want to have the car look nice then go for the lowest possible. You will still have plenty of room to play with even after a 2" DROP, esspecially if you get good shocks.


92GXE, touring wing, 18” racing wheels, Port&Polished intake, custom intake, custom yellow interior, racing seats, back seats taken out and replaced with subs and amps, NOS kit, Suspension tech. Lowering springs, custom grille, soon to be custom painted and have the whole engine rebuilt for big shot NOS and custom SC and tranny converted to 5-speed.

 

get some air bags and put that b!tch on the ground. thats what i'm going to do. you could always pick it up when you want to drive away. but when you get to a red light drop that b!tch and her on the ground until the light turns green.

 

 

Well, we come from different plans on the lowering scheme. I have seen a Maxima w/ Eibachs and that is the perfect drop to me. I have lowered three of my cars - not less than 1.5" and will never. Personally, I think if you lower a car beyond the point where the distance is not equal around the tire from the tire to the fender, it looks stupid. My Celica is lowered 1.5" w/ KYB Gas-A-Just shocks and a bunch of other stuff - I keep scraping my header when I go in and out of my driveway, but damn the car handles good.

Anyway, I drove the Maxima - if I can get it for low book I MIGHT do it - needs a battery, brakes, an alignment and other goodies. Interior is perfect though for the most part. Made lotsa gear noise in 1st too.

PS - why the hell would you take off one wiper and put the other on across the windshield?

-Jacob

 

I think it really depends on what size of wheeel you will be using also. I have 17" Konig Monsoon wheels on my max and they almost scrape the inside of the fender when I turn. I have the Suspension Techniques 1.5" lowering springs also.

 

when you enter car shows and **** like i do they look at everything how low you are, paint, stereo, etc. you get alot of points when the frame of your car if slamed into the ground. it doesn't do damage because with bags the car drops slow. the one wiper thing is the **** around here. its kinda like a nascar. besides i saw a 3rd gen slamed before it had hydrolics and it looked phat. its just somthing about having your body kit on the ground that makes it so cool. just wait till spring when i get my car repainted and bagged, it's going to look phat and i'm going to win alot of awards. i already won one last summer, and my car was still stock.

 

Thanks anyway. We aren't even in the same neighborhood as far as what is and is not cool to do to a car. I went to a few car shows - mostly in Hawaii where I moved from, but here in Cali as well. Those cars were the funniest damn things I had ever seen. Setting a car on it's frame rails makes it pretty much undriveable - and yeah you can hit the bags and bring it up a bit, but still your camber is either right for the drop or the ride - not both. I'm all about flying down the freeway and taking turns like there's no tomorrow. Adding 200lbs of plastic crap and removing the suspension does me no good. I see wipers like that around here too - brings me a little joy if my day goes bad. Too bad though, taking a nice car and screwing it up like that.

-Jacob

 

My a$$ it is. i know people in cali, i know people who moved from cali and its pretty damn cool when a car with hydrolics is slammed to the ground. so i don't know what you are talking about with that. as for driving with it slamed only an idiot would do that, thats why you raise it before you start driving. its not hard you just flick a switch. and another thing have you've ever been in a car with bags? thats the best ride i've ever felt, your driving on air it doesn't get any better. its like driving a catilac. and you keep taking turns like theres no tomorrow and we'll be puting up post saying r.i.p jacob. i've had to many friends put sway bars, strutbars, and the best suspention money can buy, kill themselfs on turns.

 

right kit because the weight of the car can blow out the bags if its installed wrong. that happend to a friend of mine. he brought the wrong kit and the left front bag blow out on a turn.

 

Don't get me wrong - I am not slamming you car or saying no one likes cars sitting on the frame rails - just that I don't, and most people I know don't. Most of us take our turns on an SCCA sanctioned autox course or at Thunderhill raceway. There is the occasional street race, but not usually much turning involved.

But, I am way more concerned with go than show - and I personally think most cars look the very best *almost* stock - just a little lower, nice rims, and subtle differences. I cannot stand these four level spoilers and stuff like that - I know for a fact that it does no good and is only for show. There is no way in hell I would pay someone to hang some useless thing on my car. Some lowered cars look pretty damn sweet, but most of them look really silly to me - my opinion. My daily car is an 'old school' Celica, and it's lowered 1.5" - about a one finger gap between the tire and fender. This car corners flat and hard, but is as low as I would go. I do think that most car look pretty dumb stock and need to go down a bit, just not all the way!

Yeah, bags when done right do ride pretty smooth, but give me a good spring/shock combo any day - simpler, cheaper and what I want. Like I said, we just have different opinions. But even if those show cars look rediculous, I can appreciate all the hard work that goes into them.

Later,

Jacob

 

here is the best pic of the ST lowering springs i have. http://www.salve.edu/~reynoldp/show6.html
the front is higher than the rear so i want to lower the front a bit so the wheel gap is a little less. but these are great springs.

Patrick

 

ok, heres my take on the whole thing. i got eibach pro kit springs. they to me are the best. they are not too low and they offer much better handling. intrax are a little too soft in my opinion. the maxima is a heavy car. as far as airbags, im a little leary of them. i know people who have them and have had problems with them. it is cool to be able to change your ride hight like that, but i dont know how good they would be for performance purposes. another thing about them, is they DO BLOW OUT on you. the kid i know who has them is always carrying around spare bags with him. and when they blow on you and your on the freeway, good luck scraping along the pavement making it to the side of the road.

 

it's called a hacksaw and stock springs!!
Dan

 

Must be a pain getting stuck on speed bumps!!

 

i was thinking of hydrolics, not only could i change the hight but i can do alittle 3 whell action around turns, do a little side to side. get it up for the cuties, etc. but it could also damage the car when you go crazy and start picking the wheels up off the ground. when you have that kind out power in youy lap your tempted to use it. thats why i'm going to get air bags. its cleaner and safer.


but when i get my 300zx my max. is getting slammed. powered by hydrolics. and i'm going to bounce the **** out of that car. and the 300zx would get the hand-me-down airbags.

and when i get my next car i'm doing it all over again.

 

Ok, first of all I never cut my stock springs. I cut the ST springs that I had on it. The car sits like it is supposed to. The tires sit right at the wheelwheels so you cant fit your hand in them. This is ST's modo anyway. I feel that if you have a car lowered that it shoild look good and perform good. My car performs just as good with the cut springs as it did before I cut them. I dont have any trouble with speed bumps either. But I will admit that when I get my body kit I will have to drive pretty cautiously. Its worth the looks to me.


92GXE, touring wing, 18” racing wheels, Port&Polished intake, custom intake, custom yellow interior, racing seats, back seats taken out and replaced with subs and amps, NOS kit, Suspension tech. Lowering springs, custom grille, soon to be custom painted and have the whole engine rebuilt for big shot NOS and custom SC and tranny converted to 5-speed.

 

thats why i never did it. but if thats not true then i'm going to cut away.

 

 

Acctually my camber is pretty F'ed up. I just ordered a set of camber plates today so it should help the problem. If that doesnt work then I'll have to relacate the strut. Sounds like a ***** but I like the way the car sits.


92GXE, touring wing, 18” racing wheels, Port&Polished intake, custom intake, custom yellow interior, racing seats, back seats taken out and replaced with subs and amps, NOS kit, Suspension tech. Lowering springs, custom grille, soon to be custom painted and have the whole engine rebuilt for big shot NOS and custom SC and tranny converted to 5-speed.

 

Now for a sane reply to Jacob..

I've got Eibachs on my car.. about 1.25".. I've got quite a bit of stereo in the back of the car and the rear is slightly lower than the front- but that's to be expected.
Ride is pretty firm, some days it annoys me, some days it doesn't.

Handling is awesome compared to stock handling. I've also got sway bars and strut tower brace, but my car can now has the ability to outcorner my confidence in me to control the car (at least until I get it on the track and find out!)..

there's a particular curve near my house that I've used for a couple years to judge the performance of my ride..
My old mitsu truck, lowered 1", could take the corner at 75mph before the front tires would start to slip.
my max in 100% stock form could take the came corner at 80-85.
add sway bars and it got to about 90mph.
now with "full suspension treatment" (see sig for all my mods, and a semi-current pic of the car), I no longer have the ***** to take the car to its limit on that corner.. the last time I tried, I took it about 102mph and the tires were just beginning to make noise.. this is USUALLY about 90% of limit on my car, but at 100mph on a public road, I'm not about to go any farther.

When I get some track time or maybe borrow a G-Tech from someone, I'll get some real skidpad numbers or something.
the Eibach/Tokico combination DEFINITELY performs.. Which is what I was going for.. I could care less about the car looking lowered, as long as the rear doesn't sag form the weight of the stereo.
hope that comes close to answering your questions.. I know there hasn't been much of a real reply yet.

 

i only have the stock sway bar. and i have the ability to take turn at very high speed. how much better can it possible get. i can't imagine it better. the on ramp for the high way near me is kinda tight and everyday when i use it i try and go faster. one day i left the house mad and hit that turn at about 90. well i was going faster than that. when i completed the turn i was at 90, about half way trough the g-force got to me so i stoped accelarating. i was shocked to of been alive. true story.


p.s never drive angry, i should of known better someone could of really gotten hurt.

 

ohhh ok...cutting ST springs is A LOT better than cutting stock...umm ok.
at 4inches the car's total suspension is all out of wack. you must go through tires...ummm every 2 months?
where did u get camber plates?
u have a pic of the "slammed car" and i don't mean photoshop style either. the wear on the suspension would be insane. i don't even know if your ball joint is in 1 piece. but hey from what your saying who gives a $hit?? it looks gr8888..right? also how did u drop the rear at 4inches w/o rubbing the tires to the strut? but from previous posts u don't seem at all concern at the car's driveability and it's safety..so to each it's own.
i give up.
Dan

 

Dan.. you wanna know what it looks like? take a look at the M5 in your sig file.. stick a yellow maxima interior on it with a bigass "touring wing" on it...
have it teetering over the top of a speedbump, and you'll just about have it..

 

the sh*t gets pretty deep around here some times.

I have eibachs, and they are definately the way to go for handles. I think you can get them at shox.com for less than tire rack.

while you got the springs out it is probably a good idea to do the shocks/struts.

I went with 16 wheels and tires to get some fat z rateds without trashing the ride, and got exactlt what I was looking for.

 

i have 24" wheels with a 8" drop. i had to cut a slot through the hood for the tires to stick through, but it looks sweet. it out handles any other maxima too. i just have a little bit of scraping on turns. i did it by completly removing the springs and using scooter shocks. it scrapes sometimes when i take it off-roading, but other than that, it is saawwwweeeeeeet!

 

 

Wow-man, no theres a winter job for me, who needs a custom catback with a 2K muffler, and a JWT ECU when I could get 24 inch rims and an 8 inch drop.

 

Well, put it this way: It's better getting a mental picture of that instead of something like 13" x (a mile wide) rims in an Excursion or a suburban (Ahhh! He said Domestic!)

 

because i never saw it but there's a group of people i know that forever talk about custom rims. and for the right price they can make it as big as you want. i don't know where you'll get a tire for something that big, and you're going to feel everything you run over. but if you hear them talk about it they sound like they know what thier talking about

 

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Yeazzah...we not be rippin' on yo shizzit. We be pimpin up in 'dis hizzouse!


The thing is, the largest tire size (a 23" tire) just became available to the public about a month ago. Want proof? Check out the Janurary 2001 Issue of Motor Trend, Page 85. I'm looking at it right now.

Sizes of those tires:
305/45/R22
325/40/R22
325/40/R23
or check out http://www.toyo.com

So take thizzat! All y'all better be up in here representin'! I git my a$$ up there and shove my gun up it!
j/k n/m

 

i knew i put that sig pic for a reason...
haahaa!!
Dan