http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=120406
KloogyFacts!
Fact is that in reference to Kloogy's insightful post:

The Sentra will outhandle his Maxima (very important)
The Sentra will outbrake his Maxima (very important)
The Sentra will have similar 1/4 mile track times as his Maxima
The Sentra will destroy his Maxima on a track that has actual corners.
The Sentra will be supported by NISMO and many other companies which will include turbos.
And the Sentra is lower cost!

This post is factual only!

 

I'm asking you nicely to please stop attacking fellow members. This is your second notice. Thanks.

 

Attack?
It would be an attack if I commented on the fact that the guy started pulling his pants down while smiling at him. But I did not comment on it so no attack right?

 

http://members.roadfly.com/jason/m3engines.htm

 

1,2,3,4 pages coming up.. Fireaway!

 

Do you have a problem with my comments on the 2k2 auto vs spec v? I think it is quite clear what car is built for performance and potential performance. Some people just don't understand "yet". I'm sure you must agree with my factual post that contributes "facts" to the community.

 

ok, so you have a problem with the word attack.. how about antagonizing? Drop all references to "kloogy" and your post is fine. why you feel the need is beyond me, but nothing technically wrong with it.

Just quit flamebaiting.. or you'll be posting into oblivion..

 

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You asked me to unlock this thread and I edited your post (which you asked me to also).

Any hints of antagonizing, as Tim stated, and your posts will be locked/deleted/moved/edited. Please don't test our patience. As I stated in our PM, click on "Repost this post to a moderator" and we'll handle it... don't participate in the flaming.

 

Stock for stock the Sentra Spec V would spank a Maxima auto or 6spd on a race track with corners.

 

Righto

 

We Know.

 

I agree on the handling part...But check the 1/4 mile times on a auto 2k2 and you will mid to high 14s.....If you dont believe me do a search. Sentra SE-Rs run mid 15s

 

Your one of the smart ones. There are some "people" who "think" their 2k2 auto max is unbeatable. The same ones who have never been to a race track. The only time some people lose in their 2k2 auto is if there are witnesses. If there are no witness they "smoked" him everytime. I don't personally know these "people" but I'm sure they exist!

 

The sentra will out brake the maxima easily as well!

Check:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=119835

I see a lot of auto guys running in the 15's and haven't broken 14's. A lot of the guys who broke 14's are also modded. Trap speeds are simliar with 89-92mph. With lighter rims (heavy 17" on a 4 banger???) and mod for mod the sentra will be even with a 2k2 auto max. PLUS the Spec V will get full support from NISMO, JWT etc.. meaning true aftermarket turbos etc..

The point is that Spec V owners are not scared of relatively stock auto maximas. One or two corners and the Max would not be able to catch up.

 

Where do you come up with this stuff??? http://maxima.cardomain.com/member_p...21_11_full.jpg
Stock 2k2....First time at the Strip
Thats .5 faster than a Sentra SE-R

 

Big deal a few guys broke 14's once or twice. "MOST" will not break 14's. I'm seeing a lot more 15's than 14s. And that is their absolute best times as well!!! From the looks of it there aren't many Spec V sold yet let alone going to the track. Also please explain how the maxima outbrakes the spec v, will be more modable, and how the maxima will beat the spec v on a real race track...you know one with corners??

 

And a lot of Spec V's have broken 14s?

 

2 pages lookin good..

 

I have seen quite a few quys running high 14s with auto 2k2s. Look at the 60ft on the slip provided and tell me that the ABSOLUTE best time.

I havent seen a SE-R on a track, so I cant tell who the clear winner is.

 

different people bought their cars for different reasons--you're talking about a car that isn't even in the same class as the maxima--there are several other cars that would destroy a Sentra as well but people don't feel the need to go to sentra boards and recite all the negative aspects the car has

Maxtor: this is a maxima enthusiast board--have you ever posted anything good (or enthusiastic)about a maxima?

 

maybe you need to head to b15sentra.net

 

No. But a performance is not just 1/4. Try braking, cornering etc..
You will see spec-v running high 14's stock. They put heavy 17" rims on a 4cyl car. With 16's or 15's it would easily run 14's.

What is up with you guys and the 1/4 thing anyways? Sound like mustang owners? Don't you have to brake or corner??

 

What's the point? A much more expensive 330i, only runs the 0-60 in 6.4 sec for the manual and only runs 7.0 for the auto.

 

I'm not the one who posted negative things about the sentra to begin with. Just make note of facts for some people who may not know them.

 

Maximas are actualy pretty decent in the turns. With mods such as RSB, FSTB, and Springs they make for a pretty decent track car.

If i wanted a car to blow pretty much anything off the road in terms of handling and braking I would have bought a 95 Mustang and put my buddies racing suspension on it along with Baer Racing Brakes.

 

Don't forget tires. Wow the stock tires on 5th gen maximas are terrible even with those mods!

Probably handle almost as good as a stock spec V if the max had have decent tires.

I wonder how the sentra would do with those same mods?

 

The RE92s are a good DRY tire when newer, but suck when you have over 5k miles. Thats why I have BFGoodrich G-Forces on my car.

 

the sentra sucks IMHO
it's ugly and doesn't suit my needs--if it performs better in every category so be it

here are your facts: for me, the max is a better car, for someone else the sentra is a better car

 

When will the madness end

GC

 

when are we ever going to race our daily drivers on a "real track"? although breaking and handling do matter in a race track situation many of us will never have the need for such things in our everyday lives. 1/4 miles just give a chance to see what kind of power your car has. if people decide to road race im hoping the smater road racers would only choose to race in a straight line rather than around turns where breaking and cornering come into play.

personally, i dont think a spec-v would match a 2k2 maxima in the 1/4 mile (just ignore my 1/4 time for the moment ). i do agree that the spec-v has advantages in certain areas but fortunately for maximas and unfortunately for sentras, those certain areas will hardly ever get a chance to prove themselves.

 

Well my 5spd 330 is not stock -Dinan Intake/Chip and I also have springs. My 330 would out handle "ANY" stock or fully modded maxima easily! Even the maximas with big brake kits/300z brakes would have a hard time stopping faster than my stock brakes.

 

Does anyone here care?

 

I agree that a 330i will outhandle a Maxima and will outbrake one too. The 330i brakes come straight of the 740i.

 

3 pages lookin good.

 

Only people that own one or can afford one I guess. I didn't bring it up?

Anyone noticing how a lot of Maxima owners are "upgrading" to 330s. Even a Max owner with an SC is getting 330. Because he can afford it!

 

this thread has potential to be a helpful and interesting comparison between the 2 (or more) cars. why try to turn it into a war?

 

Now i see...

Maxtor, seriously - Does it really hurt you if some other member posts about them beating this or that car in a race? If so, why? Unless someone directly and personally attacks you i don't really see the reason for retaliation.

2k2 Max may not be the best when it comes to cornering but it makes up for it in sheer power, comfort and luxury.

Spec V may not be the best when it comes to sheer power, comfort and luxury but it also makes up for it in handling.

Each car has it's own pro's and con's... you're included. I must admit that BMW's are the ultimate driving experience but it's not on top of the food chain either. A Mini-Cooper S will outhandle your 330 turn per turn, mile per mile. But you don't see anyone having to explicity mention that.

Not in defense of Kloogy, but i've read that post you're referring to and IMHO and personally if i were in his spot i'd go over to the guy not to brag that i have a Maxima but to let that guy get back to reality. A sentra (or a maxima) is not the fastest of the bunch.

In a weird twist of fate, you could look at this this way. Kloogy did to that boy what you're doing to Kloogy.

 

Look at the very first post.

 

I would give a Mini Cooper S a run in the corners. Remember I'm not stock! 330 handles awesome stock! With the springs it just flies through the corners.

Anyways back to the subject. I found the first post funny!