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Old May 18, 2002 | 11:08 AM
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Herers a pic of the OBX headers

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They look pretty good, OBX claims a 12-14 HP gain with these, imagine if it was that good

They say they have them for 95-01. I am going to stop by nissan on Monday and check the gasket part #'s on the 2001 and 2002. If the #'s match up I am going to order these headers and a 2001 stillen Y-Pipe. Hopefully all this works out and I get good gains on the dyno Stay tuned.
Old May 18, 2002 | 11:09 AM
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BTW the price is $450.
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Is that the pic of the exact Maxima ones? And how hard would these be to install?
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Old May 18, 2002 | 11:11 AM
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could you please get a set for you '95 as well and dyno that too?
Old May 18, 2002 | 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by Vyrus
Is that the pic of the exact Maxima ones? And how hard would these be to install?
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It is a pic of the maxima ones. The install is going to be a PITA but my bolts should be pretty easy to take off becuase my car is new. I plan on doing the install my self this time around. I have to move 2 sensors into my B-pipe too.




Craig I don't I have my 95 anymore so nope
Old May 18, 2002 | 11:17 AM
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Craig I don't I have my 95 anymore so nope


Cyrus, I nominate you to be the official biyatch
Old May 18, 2002 | 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by emax95


It is a pic of the maxima ones. The install is going to be a PITA but my bolts should be pretty easy to take off becuase my car is new. I paln on doignt eh install my self this time around. I have to move 2 sensors into my B-pipe too.
But for most of us is is just removing 10 or so bolts, placing a new gasket in, and putting the bolts back in again, right? Do they have to be professionally tightened or anything? Just curious because I don't know wether most headers are a D-I-Y project of not. I would assume so, but I also know it can be much more tricky than it looks, right?
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Old May 18, 2002 | 11:20 AM
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ahh

With this and the VI.. I think the 4th gen is more then capable of 13s, N/A. People with every bolt-on should get these things
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Originally posted by Vyrus

But for most of us is is just removing 10 or so bolts, placing a new gasket in, and putting the bolts back in again, right? Do they have to be professionally tightened or anything? Just curious because I don't know wether most headers are a D-I-Y project of not. I would assume so, but I also know it can be much more tricky than it looks, right?
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Sure you just have to take some bolts off and put new ones on, the problem is getting to these bolts and removing them. The bolts them selves are TQ to 22 lb's but heat and rust over time will make these bolts very hard to get off. The bolts are the same type that are on the Y-pipe but they are in a much harder place to get too. When you put the gasket on you have to TQ the bolts in a certain order, you will need a manual with a diagram. On some car's putting headers on is a sinch on others it is really hard(IE maximas).
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BTW Vyrus it takes a mechanic about 6-8 hours to install these.
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Originally posted by emax95


Sure you just have to take some bolts off and put new ones on, the problem is getting to these bolts and removing them. The bolts them selves are TQ to 22 lb's but heat and rust over time will make these bolts very hard to get off. The bolts are the same type that are on the Y-pipe but they are in a much harder place to get too. When you put the gasket on you have to TQ the bolts in a certain order, you will need a manual with a diagram. On some car's putting headers on is a sinch on others it is really hard(IE maximas).
How long do you think an install might typically take? Just wondering
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Originally posted by emax95


Sure you just have to take some bolts off and put new ones on, the problem is getting to these bolts and removing them. The bolts them selves are TQ to 22 lb's but heat and rust over time will make these bolts very hard to get off. The bolts are the same type that are on the Y-pipe but they are in a much harder place to get too. When you put the gasket on you have to TQ the bolts in a certain order, you will need a manual with a diagram. On some car's putting headers on is a sinch on others it is really hard(IE maximas).
So how much would a shop charge to put these on? Around the same price for a Y-pipe?
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Originally posted by Vyrus

So how much would a shop charge to put these on? Around the same price for a Y-pipe?
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It takes a mechanic about 6-8 hours to get these on, I payed $200 ($25 a hour) for my 95 header install. The bolts on my 95 would not budge. This install is a LOT harder to do then a Y-pipe install.
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Originally posted by emax95


It takes a mechanic about 6-8 hours to get these on, I payed $200 ($25 a hour) for my 95 header install. The bolts on my 95 would not budge. This install is a LOT harder to do then a Y-pipe install.
I feel headers will give 16TQ off the line thus allowing us to hang with mustang gt's
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Originally posted by Craig Mack


I feel headers will give 16TQ off the line thus allowing us to hang with mustang gt's
Do I hear 247 FWTQ I will be able to add a Y-pipe with these headers too
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Originally posted by Craig Mack


I feel headers will give 16TQ off the line thus allowing us to hang with mustang gt's
Old May 18, 2002 | 11:50 AM
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The fact is headers will do basically what all other bolt-ons do: Add high end power. No off the line power will be added, and there will be no "jolting back into the seat" from a stoplight with these applied.
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Originally posted by Craig Mack
The fact is headers will do basically what all other bolt-ons do: Add high end power. No off the line power will be added, and there will be no "jolting back into the seat" from a stoplight with these applied.
The jolt is allready very present off the line for me, traction is all ready hard to come by. Adding more low end would be usless on my FWD equpped car
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emax if this works on a 2k2, I am right behind you.
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ok..


we can still use our y pipe?

hmm
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Originally posted by redmaxpa007
ok..


we can still use our y pipe?

hmm
Yes.



Heres a few pics of my old PPC headers from NZ.



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Re: Herers a pic of the OBX headers

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I hope they do fot but they look like the are for a RWD set up. Check out the way both collectors are set way over to one side.

I really hope thet make somthing that works.
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Originally posted by emax95


Yes.



Heres a few pics of my old PPC headers from NZ.



ok.. i was skeptical... actually i still am.. OBX's products are well not up to standard in my opinion.. so i will wait to see some installs and a dyno or 2...

thanks emax...
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Old May 18, 2002 | 05:27 PM
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wheres the link? and news on a group deal for this?
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Do you have any picture with the headers on the car and can i still use the y pipe
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Old May 18, 2002 | 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by emax95


Ahhh, newbies...
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Where is the link for OBX

Are the headers ceramic coated, crome, polished stainless, what are the runner diameters, what is the collector dia, what type of flanges are used? Am I done yet
Old May 18, 2002 | 08:19 PM
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Re: Where is the link for OBX

Originally posted by MarcGXE95
Are the headers ceramic coated, crome, polished stainless, what are the runner diameters, what is the collector dia, what type of flanges are used? Am I done yet
I will call on Monday to get all the specs and I will share them here.

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Sorry guys, but those aren't headers for any Maxima unless it is RWD. Take a good long hard look at the headers. Look how they're offset and how the O2 bung is placed at the end of the collector. Those are NA 300Z headers if anything. There's no way those headers would bolt up to any factory or aftermarket y-pipe on a FWD Maxima. Unfortunately, there's no way headers will be effective with our Y-pipes. The primaries are forced to be way to short.

I guess I don't understand the quest for headers. Ethan has already proved that headers aren't worth much. There's been a lot of bad mouthing concerning the performance of the NZ headers. IMO, the NZ headers are of a VERY good design. Ethan proved that the stock manifolds are more than adequate for our motors. Sometimes engineers do get it right the first time. It's the Y-pipe that's the problem.


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***Thinking back to the last time Ewok Dynod headers...***

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***Thinking back to the last time Ewok Dynod headers...***

true. if there were little to no gain from those NZ headers, why would the OBXs perform significantly better?
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true. if there were little to no gain from those NZ headers, why would the OBXs perform significantly better?
Must be powered by Honda?
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Originally posted by MaximaZero
true. if there were little to no gain from those NZ headers, why would the OBXs perform significantly better?
I think he said the NZs had a design flaw or something...but I'm not too sure how much of a flaw could have been corrected by the OBXs to yeild that much more HP. and I'm with Dave B, those definently look like RWD headers, DEFINENTLY 300zx z32 N/As!!!!

no way these will fit a Maxima!!! heres a pic of the 300zx headers--->
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Originally posted by Dave B
Sorry guys, but those aren't headers for any Maxima unless it is RWD. Take a good long hard look at the headers. Look how they're offset and how the O2 bung is placed at the end of the collector. Those are NA 300Z headers if anything. There's no way those headers would bolt up to any factory or aftermarket y-pipe on a FWD Maxima. Unfortunately, there's no way headers will be effective with our Y-pipes. The primaries are forced to be way to short.

I guess I don't understand the quest for headers. Ethan has already proved that headers aren't worth much. There's been a lot of bad mouthing concerning the performance of the NZ headers. IMO, the NZ headers are of a VERY good design. Ethan proved that the stock manifolds are more than adequate for our motors. Sometimes engineers do get it right the first time. It's the Y-pipe that's the problem.


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True the header pic looks like it belongs on a 300ZX. The main reason I want to put headers on is so that I can put a Y-pipe on. If I am going to go threw all the trouble of replacing my headers I might as well give these a shot. Hopefully they will help
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Ethan, perhaps the 4th gen exhaust manifolds will fit the 2k2? From what I could tell from the FSM the heads are the same dimensions, and I'm banking on it for a future motor swap. Check and see if the exhaust manifold gaskets are the same part number, it their not maybe ask if you can look at them, you may need to open the ports on the on the 4th gen exhaust manifolds, but I bet they bolt up the same. I have a spare set of 4th gen exhaust manifolds I would lend you to check out, and if they work we can work somthing out after tha fact. You should have a spare set from the header install you did on your 4th gen? Leme know...
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Originally posted by MardiGrasMax
Ethan, perhaps the 4th gen exhaust manifolds will fit the 2k2? From what I could tell from the FSM the heads are the same dimensions, and I'm banking on it for a future motor swap. Check and see if the exhaust manifold gaskets are the same part number, it their not maybe ask if you can look at them, you may need to open the ports on the on the 4th gen exhaust manifolds, but I bet they bolt up the same. I have a spare set of 4th gen exhaust manifolds I would lend you to check out, and if they work we can work somthing out after tha fact. You should have a spare set from the header install you did on your 4th gen? Leme know...
I'm going to go down to nissan tomarrow to check the part #'s to see if they match. I think 4th gen headers would fit on my 5th gen too seeing that the PPC headers fit 95-01 and the engine is still the same shape.
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Hmmmm this is becoming very intresting. It would be great if we could get another 10+ HP from a bolt on.

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