Ok... get this... found out from Osram actually, that the Cool Blues are rated at 700 lumens. from personal exprience the Piaa Superwhites are about as bright, so I would say they are right at 700 lumens.

Now remeber the philips blue vision is rated a 1068 lumens for the regular wattage bulbs. I suspect they would be of a great improvement. This could be the next "best" thing... maybe I'll be able to see!

-Shing

 

Cool I'll try them in my se-r once I get around to it.

 

Target? Walmart? or do I need a special store?
I thought gumout regane can be had in walmart...ahahahah..
oh well....
1086 lumens...that is extra 300 lumens...bright white?
cool....how much?
Sorry I ask too many questions...just wanna know...probably replace my cool blue with it...

 

I believe it is available on line and it isn;t that expensive. I saw this guy at work buy a pair for his bimmer --cause the stock lights sucked. And he told me those were very bright.

I just need lights to see the road. So perhaps in somewhile in the future, when the piaa's die--I will also move over to a pair of phillips....

btw, has anyone had a pair of piaa's die on them yet? how long has it been--I wonder...

 

9004 bulbs bite, period!

nice info

 

yes 9004 bites... that's for sure. But until we can get new housing... not much we can do about that.


Philips Blue vision, they are at $30 a pair from http://www.autooptiks.com.

BTW there you will see the Astra bulbs... if you look at their regular wattage bulb, you will notice that the 200k extra in whitness costs nearly 200 lumens. Proof that coating is bad for light output.

-Shing

 

I found the Phillips BlueVisions at a Strauss Auto for my Dad's car...but they were the only two left and were of the H4 variety. But the Strauss Autos carry Phillips stuff, while Pep Boys carry Sylvanias.

 

DeAnne?!?

You offsite today, Shing?



Thanks for the update. Per Mike S.'s suggestion (and the fact that I have a digicam for the evening), I think I'm going to break down the difference between PIAAs and stock bulbs on my 3rd gen to see what difference there is....maybe it will shed some 'light' on the whole beam pattern thing.

 

Damn I'm smart

Hehe....well....I do like the cool blues in my 93 but I'm always looking for brighter bulbs.....but not higher wattage or blue ones.

Some observations:

I like the low beams better in my moms 98 Altima se(9007) I think.

I like my highbeams better. Mine are bright and leave a big spot of light on the road. Moms altima kinda "floods" the road on high and doesn't seem to be as effective, but I probably could see people farther than with my car. I guess I like seeing the light hit the road. The altima aims it up a bit and the spot on the road dissapears, but again...a person say 100ft up could probably be seen easier.

So....I guess the question is....if the 3rd gens have a better beam pattern....what happens when you add some sweet bulbs like PIAA?

Mike S.

 

Altimas have better headlights because they use the 9007 bulb. It has axial filaments instead of transverse filaments.


HIghbeams are supposed to flood the area with light.

And what happens when you add some sweet bulbs like PIAA? You're wallet gets about $70 lighter.

 

About 5 or so months ago I purchased the philips blue vision (from K-Mart) because I couldnt afford the PIAA's at the time I really have to say they are much whiter than stock. They are by no means blue, the ground is very white. Compared to stock it looked much whiter in the actually housing. I can put a stock bulb back in and take pic's tonight if you want. Anyone interested in seeing these?

 

They were like $12 each.

 

I'd be interested in seeing what the comparisons are between the phillips and the stock.
what are the stock bulbs? when i took mine out from my maxima--it said "GE" on em (ick)...

but for sure--I agree with ALbert...my gf has a 2000 altima and even the stock bulb lights look so much better from the driver's point of view--that it illuminates the entire road even with just low beams...
darn...
wish our Max was like that.

 

I think I'll stop by a Kmart tonight if the Blue Visions could be had there... I could only find Cool Blues at walmart... Incidentally I pust some 9007 cool blues in the g/f mustang over the weekend. Works much better than stock ones.

-Shing

 

if anyone could compare them to PIAA's i'd be intersted. I was thinking about getting PIAA's for xmas, but since they might not be much better than the Philips I don't know...

 

I tried it ... quite frankly, I don't really like the Blue Vision!!! Output is the same as the PIAAs, BUT ... they are not Too much better than STOCK!! I've tried 1 Piaa and 1 Blue Vision at the same time in my 99 SE, and the PIAA were Visibly WHITER than the Blue Vision!!

In terms of lighting up the road, the Piaa's and the Blue Vision were VERY similar! Just that the Piaa's had a Better flood!!!!!

just my $0.02

 

Two things:

1) whiter is not brighter... color temp fools many people into thinking it's whiter

2) Comparison on 5th gen to the previous is irrelevant. Not being rude, be simply put, the 5th gen H4s are so much more superior than the 9004s it's not even funny.

9004s suck... pretty hard too. What's interseting is this... I put cool blues on my g/f cars, they are 9007. Upon visual inspection into the lens, I didn't see too much difference, but when we went for a drive, there was a big difference.

BTW those lumens numbers are strictly for 9004.

-Shing

 

yes, the 9007 look very similar...and the altimas (at least for the 2000) use the syvlania light bulbs. everything on the lights say "sylvania" on it...and I noticed that the flood of the light is much better. at first I didn't know much about the different types of light bulb out there...
but yeah--the 9007 seem to have a better direction/path for the light and not that much is wasted.

I wonder why they decided on the 9004 types for the maxima...

damn...

 

Ummmm ... Please READ carefully before Critisizing me!!
I said "in my 99SE"!!! NOT my 2K1 Max!!!!!!!!
At the SAME time ... I NEVER said WHITER was Brighter, I said they were the SAME in terms of OUTPUT!

I've been trying out different lights for over 2 years now! I know what I'm doing and I've tried EVERY well known brand out there!

So PLEASE Shingles ... RE-READ my message and next time READ before you comment on me!

 

Calm down man, who was critisizing you. Everyone on this bbs get so worked up about things... Simply taking the opportunity to point out that whiter is not better, since you happen to bring up whiteness.

Great, that you've been trying for two years... like I just popped out of nowhere yesterday and decided to try this "bulb thing" out... You know I too "have been trying out different lights for two years".

anyways...

-Shing