Nitrous Discuss dry, wet, and direct port nitrous setups. How many shots can you handle?

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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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Hell yea man iv been wanting to post the same thing. No one cares about nitrous no more, i wish it was like the 4th gen forum with 1 post per second lol even if its noobish random stuff lol.

edit: ill just post random little questions i actually wouldnt mind to get input on. Give this thing some life
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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Something going on here, if you have automatic...

Try here for something new... Jime's got something new going on..... Check Page 2..

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=481106
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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Yeah well...
People think it's just hit a button and nitrous shots into your engine; giveing you 1,000,000+hp,
BUT! it can blow at any moment! ...AND you have to re-fill the bottle every 2 seconds at $60 a refill!

Not very appealing, and nobody really wants to spend allot on "just nitrous".
They just don't know how much sicker nitrous is then a crap supercharger.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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I was just about to post the same thing. The juice gets no love, but damn nice when they dont know what hit em. So hows everyones nitrous going?
BTW here is my dyno with my 75 shot http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=471519 look how accurate the juice (but still pissed that 5hp mysteriously dissapeared) is I was always curious to see if the jets would really produce around a 75 shot anyways if your bored check it out.
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 04:45 AM
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those are very very nice numbers, and yea nx is really accurate. When i Dynoed a 50shot, i gained EXACLY 51whp over my n/a run. and gained about 61lb tq.
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by streetzlegend
those are very very nice numbers, and yea nx is really accurate. When i Dynoed a 50shot, i gained EXACLY 51whp over my n/a run. and gained about 61lb tq.
Yeah it is very accurate, but I was surprised with the torque it shot up something like 88
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 08:02 AM
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Yeah it is very accurate, but I was surprised with the torque it shot up something like 88
yeh i love my nitrous, the torque adds wonder to the lifeless sc,lol.
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by streetzlegend
Hell yea man iv been wanting to post the same thing. No one cares about nitrous no more, i wish it was like the 4th gen forum with 1 post per second lol even if its noobish random stuff lol.

edit: ill just post random little questions i actually wouldnt mind to get input on. Give this thing some life
Nitrous seems to have fallen by the wayside in other forums and tuning options over the past year or so.
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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Nitrous seems to have fallen by the wayside in other forums and tuning options over the past year or so.
yea thats true, Im going to stay true to my nitrous though, although i almost went ahead and started to purchase things for a turbo set up but i said screw it, i can accomplish basically as fast 1/4 with nitrous and not spend so much. lol. i dont use it alot anyways so its not really hard on the wallet with the refills.
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 09:41 AM
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I think of it sort of like a nutritional "Supplement" LOL
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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haha sorta like Muscle Milk for our car
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Originally Posted by streetzlegend
yea thats true, Im going to stay true to my nitrous though, although i almost went ahead and started to purchase things for a turbo set up but i said screw it, i can accomplish basically as fast 1/4 with nitrous and not spend so much. lol. i dont use it alot anyways so its not really hard on the wallet with the refills.
Me too, and spraying a VQ35 w/Hotshot headers could even be more exciting...
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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Me too, and spraying a VQ35 w/Hotshot headers could even be more exciting...
i dont kno if the 3.5 can handle as much spray but he did it with his 2k2. and if he does the same amount of shot to his new setup. then i predict 10's!!!
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by grey99max
Me too, and spraying a VQ35 w/Hotshot headers could even be more exciting...
Ohh it is. But cattmans Gen 1 FTW
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by streetzlegend
i dont kno if the 3.5 can handle as much spray but he did it with his 2k2. and if he does the same amount of shot to his new setup. then i predict 10's!!!
BTW what size shot is that?
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on the 3.5 i think the most he did was 100shot. on the 4th gens he did 150.. on the 5.5gen the 100shot got him to 12.1. (13.5 n/a) which means he went 1.4 sec quicker. so with that said, reduce 1.4 from 12.5 that he runs now and thats 11.1!!!! and with 150shot. 10's!

i kno theres alot more variables that will determine how much a shot of nitrous will improve 1/4 but its like an idea of what can happen.
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 07:26 AM
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agreed, I check in here almost every day since I put my kit on, I ran into $ probs so my dynotune heater, pressure guage, afr are on hold. Im still trying to figure out my really rich running car, unless the dyno I took it to was completly worthless.
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 07:41 AM
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I haven't bought anything or even used my nitrous yet because I bought a 3.5 in May. I've been spending most of my money on stuff for that. But this weekend my track is having a street racing event and I am lined up with a srt-4, 06 WRX, and turbo civic. Thats why I went and filled the bottle and ordered my spark plugs.
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SDot82
I haven't bought anything or even used my nitrous yet because I bought a 3.5 in May. I've been spending most of my money on stuff for that. But this weekend my track is having a street racing event and I am lined up with a srt-4, 06 WRX, and turbo civic. Thats why I went and filled the bottle and ordered my spark plugs.
With 75shot+00vi+5sp (00vi+5sp is already awsome power), you should completly destroy the srt4 and probably the wrx, don kno bout the turbo civic though.
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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What is this "00vi" I keep hearing mentioned throughout the forum?
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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What is this "oovi" I keep hearing mentioned throughout the forum?
00vi = 2000/2001 maxima intake manifold = more hp. u can go to the all motor section and read all about it.
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by streetzlegend
00vi = 2000/2001 maxima intake manifold = more hp. u can go to the all motor section and read all about it.
Thank you, sir.
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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Hey I do have cople of questions, but I can't post new thread for some reason any of you have a Zex dry shot on 4th gen maxima, as I do. And do you have a problem to program the Zex unit?
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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O and also I have old stile Zex Nitrous Management Unit( no buttn and no light)
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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Been there done that blew a motor. A chimp can install a nitrous kit.
BWT a 200 dry shot will burn a valve.
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by choray911
Been there done that blew a motor. A chimp can install a nitrous kit.
BWT a 200 dry shot will burn a valve.
So will a 150 wet-shot. More than once.

104 octane and shaved-ground plugs will help.
Old Jul 15, 2006 | 12:41 AM
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Did you really use a 200 dry shot?
Old Jul 15, 2006 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by grey99max
So will a 150 wet-shot. More than once.

104 octane and shaved-ground plugs will help.
How did it blow?
Ring land?
Old Jul 15, 2006 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Donkeypunch
How did it blow?
Ring land?
I melted the exhaust valves on one cylinder on the first engine, and exhaust valves on two cylinders on the second engine. I was having episodes of extreme preignition and detonation, melting down lots of spark plugs - especially grounds - and spraying 150-shot was fatal to those two engines. There was some "stupid" on my part, as well.

With the '99 Infiniti beater that's in the car now, using Sunoco 104 octane from a can and 2-step colder plugs with cut-back grounds, everything is fine with a 125-shot. I've been avoiding the 150-shot this season, and still managed to make a 13.31 ET pass less than two weeks ago, with a 13.4, 13.5 and 13.6 ETS the same night.

It's more fun to race than swap engines. I decided to learn to drive the car smarter. I'm also ready to try Jime's manual-override-shifting of the automatic. I just need to connect the switch box to the two solenoid wires at the transmission, and I'll know if I can extend the shifts up to fuel-cut - before I spray.
Old Jul 15, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by grey99max
I melted the exhaust valves on one cylinder on the first engine, and exhaust valves on two cylinders on the second engine. I was having episodes of extreme preignition and detonation, melting down lots of spark plugs - especially grounds - and spraying 150-shot was fatal to those two engines. There was some "stupid" on my part, as well.

With the '99 Infiniti beater that's in the car now, using Sunoco 104 octane from a can and 2-step colder plugs with cut-back grounds, everything is fine with a 125-shot. I've been avoiding the 150-shot this season, and still managed to make a 13.31 ET pass less than two weeks ago, with a 13.4, 13.5 and 13.6 ETS the same night.

It's more fun to race than swap engines. I decided to learn to drive the car smarter. I'm also ready to try Jime's manual-override-shifting of the automatic. I just need to connect the switch box to the two solenoid wires at the transmission, and I'll know if I can extend the shifts up to fuel-cut - before I spray.
were you using 2step colder when you blew those engines?
Old Jul 15, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by streetzlegend
were you using 2step colder when you blew those engines?
Yes I was - I melted the center electrodes from Iridium plugs, melted ground electrodes on various plugs, had high-speed misfires from everything NGK makes for the Maxima, on various octanes of fuel, but when I cut down the ground electrodes so the plug is a side-discharge gap and not a glow-plug and bought 104 octane race gas from Sunoco directly, everything was fine. It's been that way all season.

It works for me - and I'm not done yet.
Old Jul 15, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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so what exacly is it that caused such problems though? im looking to do 100shot soon, already got 190walbro and everything, i dont wanna screw my engine up since i wouldnt hvae time or money to replace it any time soon.
Old Jul 15, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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so what exacly is it that caused such problems though? im looking to do 100shot soon, already got 190walbro and everything, i dont wanna screw my engine up since i wouldnt hvae time or money to replace it any time soon.
If I knew exactly what the problems were, I wouldn't have them - I would have fixed them first. Using a 15 lb bottle every week gives you lots of practice.

I went through two motors to figure it out. You can either take the same precautions or take the same chances. When you push a motor beyond factory specs, you gotta cover your azzz....

Crap street pump gas can kill you, crap gas from the track pumps can kill you, plugs that glow and cause preignition can kill you... I've had it all. Now I don't.

I just picked up 16 more 2-step colder NGK BKR7ES-11 plugs from O'Reillys for $1.59 each. I'm gonna chop 'em, file the center electrode to match the chopped ground, and get my usual ten 125-shot passes from a set. Gap to .032. After ten passes, the gap opens up from erosion and occasionally rounds off the center electrode a bit. Plugs are cheap. Race gas is cheap. Replacing engines is not. Your choice - I've made mine. I'm quick and getter quicker - with the same ol' beater '99 Infiniti motor. Some day I've gotta change the original knock sensor to one that works.


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Originally Posted by grey99max
I melted the exhaust valves on one cylinder on the first engine, and exhaust valves on two cylinders on the second engine. I was having episodes of extreme preignition and detonation, melting down lots of spark plugs - especially grounds - and spraying 150-shot was fatal to those two engines. There was some "stupid" on my part, as well.

With the '99 Infiniti beater that's in the car now, using Sunoco 104 octane from a can and 2-step colder plugs with cut-back grounds, everything is fine with a 125-shot. I've been avoiding the 150-shot this season, and still managed to make a 13.31 ET pass less than two weeks ago, with a 13.4, 13.5 and 13.6 ETS the same night.

It's more fun to race than swap engines. I decided to learn to drive the car smarter. I'm also ready to try Jime's manual-override-shifting of the automatic. I just need to connect the switch box to the two solenoid wires at the transmission, and I'll know if I can extend the shifts up to fuel-cut - before I spray.
do you have a link to jimes manual override shift post
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Originally Posted by t6378tp
do you have a link to jimes manual override shift post

Yup : http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=481106

I just built and tested my own version today - and started a thread w/photos on what I did. It's scary-good.
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