Bottle warmers
11-07-2006, 06:56 AM
#1
Bottle warmers
Hey what are my options as far as warming my nitrous bottle. propane torches are a no, no. bottle warmers are 100-150bucks, is the only thing I am left with is putting the bottle under the dash and turn the heat on during the ride to the track.
I was wondering what setups you guys are running
I was wondering what setups you guys are running
11-07-2006, 08:36 AM
#2
Originally Posted by t6378tp
Hey what are my options as far as warming my nitrous bottle. propane torches are a no, no. bottle warmers are 100-150bucks, is the only thing I am left with is putting the bottle under the dash and turn the heat on during the ride to the track.
I was wondering what setups you guys are running
I was wondering what setups you guys are running
11-08-2006, 05:45 PM
#5
I used to heat up my bottle under the dash with the heat blasting.. And it did make a difference. Made the car pull a little bit more.. As long as the bottle was at least 1/2 or more full.. Then I got a warmer (NOS brand $129 at a local speed shop) hooowly chit, what a difference. Good to the last drop. Enough said.
11-08-2006, 06:03 PM
#7
Originally Posted by NAS
Ah yes... I ran out of money after the kit, remote opener, and various crap, but plan on the dynotunenitrous.com heater ($109) once I get some cash
11-10-2006, 12:08 PM
#8
+1 for a warmer also. You will be able to utilize more of the nitrous at higher pressure than without. Another point is: wintertime is coming. This will cause a drop in your psi due to the colder temperatures. The bottle warmer will combat that.
11-10-2006, 09:19 PM
#9
right now I am only getting about 600-650psi. I was told to get a warmer that go by temp and not psi. I was told that psi warmers you have to turn the bottle on and after awhile this will cause you solinod to stick
11-10-2006, 10:53 PM
#10
Originally Posted by t6378tp
right now I am only getting about 600-650psi. I was told to get a warmer that go by temp and not psi. I was told that psi warmers you have to turn the bottle on and after awhile this will cause you solinod to stick
11-13-2006, 04:33 PM
#11
^ I agree.
The warmers that come with pressure switch are made to be used while bottle is open. otherwise the warmer will never turn off because it does not know where the pressure is at. Dont worry about the solonoids sticking because of that reason, they are meant to hold back high pressures. 1050psi is best for NX wet kits. Guys at the track leave the bottles open the entire day and have no problems with solenoids. Just make sure when you finish your day of nitrous runs and close the bottle, to either purge the line, or disconnect the line from the bottle so you dont leave nitrous pressure inside the line over night, THAT will defently screw ur solonoids up over time.
The warmers that come with pressure switch are made to be used while bottle is open. otherwise the warmer will never turn off because it does not know where the pressure is at. Dont worry about the solonoids sticking because of that reason, they are meant to hold back high pressures. 1050psi is best for NX wet kits. Guys at the track leave the bottles open the entire day and have no problems with solenoids. Just make sure when you finish your day of nitrous runs and close the bottle, to either purge the line, or disconnect the line from the bottle so you dont leave nitrous pressure inside the line over night, THAT will defently screw ur solonoids up over time.
11-13-2006, 06:33 PM
#12
I am going with the zex warmer for 112.00, till then the bottle will be under the dash till I get to the track
How much of a differance in hp would it be with a 55shot with 700psi compared to 1000psi
How much of a differance in hp would it be with a 55shot with 700psi compared to 1000psi
11-13-2006, 08:11 PM
#13
Originally Posted by t6378tp
I am going with the zex warmer for 112.00, till then the bottle will be under the dash till I get to the track
How much of a differance in hp would it be with a 55shot with 700psi compared to 1000psi
How much of a differance in hp would it be with a 55shot with 700psi compared to 1000psi
11-14-2006, 05:14 AM
#14
I did spray it at 700psi cause I was dying to see what it would do, I run 16.3 with a bad k/s and y-pipe and 15.07 with a 55shot at 700psi both runs with no weight reduction. I am getting a new k/s already ordered and bottle warmer. I am hoping this will get me a mid to low 14sec run.
My goal is a 13.9 run, I figure to get me there I'll take out the passanger and back seat, spare and jack, 1step colder plugs, mazada milliena wheels and a 75shot
My goal is a 13.9 run, I figure to get me there I'll take out the passanger and back seat, spare and jack, 1step colder plugs, mazada milliena wheels and a 75shot
11-14-2006, 08:58 AM
#15
Originally Posted by t6378tp
I did spray it at 700psi cause I was dying to see what it would do, I run 16.3 with a bad k/s and y-pipe and 15.07 with a 55shot at 700psi both runs with no weight reduction. I am getting a new k/s already ordered and bottle warmer. I am hoping this will get me a mid to low 14sec run.
My goal is a 13.9 run, I figure to get me there I'll take out the passanger and back seat, spare and jack, 1step colder plugs, mazada milliena wheels and a 75shot
My goal is a 13.9 run, I figure to get me there I'll take out the passanger and back seat, spare and jack, 1step colder plugs, mazada milliena wheels and a 75shot
11-14-2006, 09:23 AM
#16
Originally Posted by whazzzzuup
Not to burst your bubble, but the 75 shot probably will not drop your time from a 16.3 to a 13.9xx. You will need some slicks or drag radials to get close to your goal. You will definitely be in the 14.xx second range though!
the 16.3 was with low bottle pressure, a bad knock sensor and probably a bad run. i think a 13.9 is definitely possible.
11-14-2006, 04:07 PM
#17
IF your 16 sec run was because of the knock sensor, and ur going to change it, that should put you in 15's n/a. I am automatic, and i ran 14.2 the last time i went to the track. my 60' was 2.3 which means I basically have a 13 second car if i improve the 60' just a lil bit. i didnt spray till 3k rpm, and had some spin. I am now with 22" Slicks, going to spray from the line, and some slight tuning, I should expect mid to low 13s. I did the 14.2 run with my Titanium 2k3 rims which weigh 55lbs with tires. the slicks are mounted the sawblades, total weight is 37 and are shorter, so mid to low 13's is very possible with 75. if your doing things properly. hopefully you have drop resistor mod installed. if not, ur tranny is not going to make it back from the track. goodluck
11-14-2006, 06:41 PM
#18
Originally Posted by whazzzzuup
Not to burst your bubble, but the 75 shot probably will not drop your time from a 16.3 to a 13.9xx. You will need some slicks or drag radials to get close to your goal. You will definitely be in the 14.xx second range though!
oh and I just disconnect the resistor when I am at the track and already pulling 2.2 60ft's with the 55shot
And please let me know when you make a run with your new setup, I interested in what kind of times it gets you
11-14-2006, 08:49 PM
#20
Originally Posted by whazzzzuup
Good luck man! I really hope you do get into the 13 second range. I didn't see that you had a bad knock sensor. It's very possible. I am hoping to get a 12 second run with the new setup. *fingers crossed
my guess is drag radials, more weight reduction and nitrous (around 100-125), better fuel pump, and afpr. I pretty sure I missed alot
If it costs too much I'll just put the money in my truck. A posi rear(250.00), 100shot nitrous(300.00), delay box(65.00) and traction bars(100-350) .. for about 1000.00 bucks I'm there
11-14-2006, 09:17 PM
#21
I hope to get into the 12s with a 75 shot on 245/40/17 BFGoodrich G-force KD street tires. My little cousin took my car to the track when I was at work and he ran a 14.3 in 100+ degree weather during the summer with full interior and 2 amps (without nitrous). He said he could of gotten a better 60' if he had launched higher. He launched at 900 rpm (Auto FTL). Only things I added was a ZEX wet kit with bottle warmer, modified intake manifold, gutted cat, and new Work wheels. I plan on going soon before it gets too cold. It should run well in 50 degree weather.
Stuff I had already for the 14.3 second run: GAB, Hotshot headers, Warpspeed b-pipe and stock muffler. DR mod also.
Stuff I had already for the 14.3 second run: GAB, Hotshot headers, Warpspeed b-pipe and stock muffler. DR mod also.
11-21-2006, 08:03 PM
#28
just went to the track and WOW, it's amazing what a good knock sensor and a bottle warmer can do. I knocked 2 tenths off my 60ft and 7 tenths off my 1/4.
old time 15.076, new time 14.307
old time 15.076, new time 14.307
11-22-2006, 09:45 AM
#30
Originally Posted by babymac
Congrats tom on your time. If i can't figure my problem out I'm selling the jwt ecu and buying a nitrous kit!
I was looking into the jwt and t/s ecu and found out I would have to run 91-93 all the time I was like hell no. I would have to get a 2nd job just for gas.
Plus like I said, if I want to tear up the street I will just pull out my truck, hell that thing pulls 1.90 60fts peeling and runs on 87gas. But hey if you go with nitrous let me know and I'll help you install the kit
11-22-2006, 09:56 AM
#31
Originally Posted by t6378tp
Remember I am only fast with spray your fast all the time, I cruise around town and do not beat on the car till I go to the track. Also the biggest reason I went with nitrous cause gas was like 3.50 a gallon when I bought the kit and this way I can run 87gas around town and 93 at the track.
I was looking into the jwt and t/s ecu and found out I would have to run 91-93 all the time I was like hell no. I would have to get a 2nd job just for gas.
Plus like I said, if I want to tear up the street I will just pull out my truck, hell that thing pulls 1.90 60fts peeling and runs on 87gas. But hey if you go with nitrous let me know and I'll help you install the kit
I was looking into the jwt and t/s ecu and found out I would have to run 91-93 all the time I was like hell no. I would have to get a 2nd job just for gas.
Plus like I said, if I want to tear up the street I will just pull out my truck, hell that thing pulls 1.90 60fts peeling and runs on 87gas. But hey if you go with nitrous let me know and I'll help you install the kit
and the gas thing is so true I'll save at the pump too.
I'm gonna do a wet kit with a bottle warmer and pressure gauge(zex) as soon as i selll the jwt ecu.
11-22-2006, 10:19 AM
#32
yeah 13's will not be a problem at all, cause with the mevi you will continue to make power till the car shifts, unlike me when the power dips after 5500rpms. You may want to add a rpm switch to turn the nitrous off a 6500rpms so the tranny can shift better, remember my tranny got hot last night in the winter and just think what will happen in the summer
Next on my list is a stillen front lip, 1 step colder plugs, tranny fuild flush with mobile1, tranny cooler, msd rpm box and mazda wheels (poormans udp)
Next on my list is a stillen front lip, 1 step colder plugs, tranny fuild flush with mobile1, tranny cooler, msd rpm box and mazda wheels (poormans udp)
11-22-2006, 10:50 AM
#34
the stock shifts around 6200-6500rpm at wot.. And I like to spray thur the shifts but incase it goes over that I do not want to continue spraying into the rev limiter so I'll use the rpm box to kill the nitrous at 6500rpm for piece of mind
11-22-2006, 04:55 PM
#35
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oh god I hate high altitude. I have a 2k2 auto and my best run was a 15.8. Yes, I know this is a slow time for a 3.5 auto, but I live in colorado, so we are well over a mile above sea level since the track is in the mountains. and with a 75 shot with no warmer I ran a 14.7 wich was at about 700 psi. now that I have a warmer I ran a 14.3. so in my case a warmer reduced my time by nearly half a second. Now I just need to get my headers installed and get it tuned. then I'll hopefully run a mid-low 13 at my elevation.
11-30-2006, 06:34 AM
#39
Originally Posted by t6378tp
how long till the new mevi comes in
11-30-2006, 06:25 PM
#40
Originally Posted by babymac
I'm really not sure, but if I don't find out soon 00vi for me over the holidays. I will probably need your help for this install. I just got the bottle warmer and pressure gauge yesterday,so I'm ready to rock. Maybe will get some more nice weather and you could come down and help me out?? I am also kinda scared a little using it too...