That's about as simple as the break down gets. As it's been posted before we don't plan on knockin everyone off the charts with our extremely low prices. However we do plan on beating everyones quality, customer service and even performance, unfortunately it costs more .

 

You have to SELL something first Albert.

 

Or get a donor car

 

Bottom line.... do you have A TURBO KIT?

DO you need a DONOR car?

What can WE help with?

 

i dont think this will ever happen because no one is going to want to give up there max for a few months and still have to pay $2k-3k for a turbo kit

 

Even if they find someone desperate enough, it won't sell. Wrong product for the wrong market. Take the Altima, G35, Sentra, etc. SSR/SFR kits for example, how many have you sold Albert?

You can make it out of Mars rock and make 10 million hp, but that doesn't mean people ESPECIALLY most Maxima owners will buy it for $5K-6K.

 

Altima not many, we have sold quite a few g35 turbo systems probably 20, and about 10 for the sentra.

 

Sounds about right...what was the price on the Sentra kit?

 

it's $4599

 

i wouldnt see y the max kits wouldnt sell.

 

they would sell but if they only had a 4th gen kit avalible they probobly would only sell 5 a year

now if they had a kit for all generations 3rd through 6th and were compatible with both transmissions i bet they would sell between 10 - 15 a year

 

Interesting topic. I wish I could say I would 100% buy a kit if SSR made one, but I am really hoping that sooner or later my financial situation has to get better at some point. If SSR really made a great quality kit and sold it in the $5-$6 K range, why not try it. As long as it doesn't blow engines like some people said of the custommaxima kit How many SC kits does Stillen sell per year for the 4th gen? By the time you buy the SC kit, and upgrade the pulleys, and fuel mgmt., you are in the $5K range. I think there is a possibility to sell a TC kit for $5-$6K. Especially when you get everything you need. It's worth spending an extra grand to know you got a great, proven, and quality kit. I think that's why everyone is so loyal to the Stillen SC.

 

It's fear, people are scared to drop $5K on something unproven which is what a turbo is. Stillen sells a lot of SC kits because they're Stillen, people know who they are. No big company is making a turbo kit for the Maxima, so people don't know how it will work out.

Proven, reliable, great, and quality are not words I would use to describe the Stillen SC kit. It has it's share of issues, but it's the best thing available mass market if you're not willing to go custom.

 

Heh.. tell me about it.
I took 20% off my brake kit prices and only 5 people got in on the deal...
I'm hoping more will sell later, as I'm still at a HUGE loss for making the parts, but that comes with time. hopefully my stomach will still let me eat beans and Ramen for another few months.

I've had lower tie bars for the 5th gen sitting for months gathering dust, and still have half of the original Z32 brake brackets I made up almost a year ago.

so yeah.. good luck getting Maxima owners to buy something that's "unproven".

 

Well, we have a 5th gen turbo kit coming soon.

 

matt, did you ever redesign the stage 2 LTB to fit with the cattman headers on the 4th gens? and do you offer to powder coat the LTB black?

 

So is there n e word on this kit...from what it seems no...but...someone correct me if im wrong...

 

all i have to say is listen to all the people that think they can make a kit for like 3000 dollars.......they have it set in their mind too, its going to be kind of hard to convince them to pay 6000 dollars for a turbo kit, yet they are the ones most intersted in it. i think what really needs to happen is somebody needs to come out with just the forward y and the down pipe and market them. that would probably be the best way to sell the product. i know that if i could find a place that would sell just those parts i would be all over it, cheapest parts to make if you figure out how to mass produce and probably the most profitable. you spend a some time and money researching but once the research is all done the parts cant be that hard to make and they are definitely not going to be expensive but im sure people would be willing to pay good money for them.

 

Damn right, the total for my kit is $2300, and that's without pistons/rods. I can get a local turbo shop to make piping for $750-$1000 and im set. No one is going to pay that type of money........

 

if it came with headers/everything stainless and a BB GT turbo i could see it being worth 6k "to some"

 

I can get stainless steel headers made at hooks custom headers for about $1000, so it still wouldn't be worth the price. $6399, and that's not even including the install, or some headache's that might come with the turbo. Imagine you spending that type of money, blowing the motor, then what. Some people know how to tune, and some people don't so it's a 50/50 chance. I know if I got that kit, blew my motor, I would be hurt, emotionally and in my pockets. And my car would have to sit till income tax time. It's better to go turbo than to buy SOME kits, everyone around me is doing custom setups, I don't know the last person that ACTUALLY bought a setup.

Ohh yeah..... SSR never even said they released the kit yet, I heard they were 2-3weeks away, and that was back in april...........

 

but did you see the workmanship that they put into it?

I think that if you buy a kit from a reputable company, it is totally worth it.

not to say that I am against the custom turbo set-up, but for those that do not have enough knowledge about the mechanics of one, a kit like this would be the way to go. It took a good number of bathroom visits reading Maximum Boost to figure it out.

 

Ok, one major problem with this kit that I have, do you see where the turbo sits, what if you goto a carwash or something, or go into a big puddle, you don't want that turbo getting wet. IMOP I think that the turbo should be up under the engine bay, even tho where the turbo sits, it would produce less heat because the air would be hitting it more, and because it's so low. Me personally, I wouldn't want my turbo down there, I would rather have more heat under my engine bay, than to have to worry about something happening to my turbo due to the fact that its so low to the ground.

 

it also makes for a shorter piping route though. a little less complicated. the turbo is still protected by the piping. I completely understand where you're coming from, but Mike D couldn't go to the carwash because his piping was too low.

 

Exactly, I can't get an oil change now because im so dropped on JIC's, so imagine if I had that kit, the piping would be rubbing damn near on the ground. And that happened with my y-pipe, the car is so low, the flex section of the y-pipe rubbed on the ground till it tore and I lost alot of low end torque, but I went to a custom exaust shop and they took the old one off and added another on in a different place further up. After that I have been straight, it does make a shorter piping route, but let me ask you this, im paying $2300 for all my parts(not including fuel injectors,safc,gauges and a few others) I am getting my piping CUSTOM done for $1000 and this shop is good with turbo cars and piping. Now that's basically $3200 im spending to get my parts and get my kit installed, you arent going to find a better price than that. And the extra $3000 I would have had to shell out to get ssr's kit, I can get my piping power coated or whatever. I think a custom route is better, all I have to do is show them a picture of other maxima turbo kits, and it will be easy to do a reverse y-pipe 1,2,3. Yeah the turbo may take a little longer to spool up, but that's a risk im willing to take(and saving $3000 in the process). Like I said it's just my own opinion, sure people may not have the resources or money that some of these shops will charge for custom setups and just buy the kit. But me, im going custom. And like I said it's just my own opnion, im not downgrading ssr's product, I just wouldn't go that route at this time in my life, maybe if I won the lotto.LOL.

P.S. The parts that comes with that kit does look appealing I would like to add tho......

 

Starchild and for everyone else on this forum, we've never tried to say that our prices are cheap. However we can say are parts aren't cheap, we use the best possible components to complete every turbo kit. If you guys recall the 4th gen kits, there were issues with blown pipes, fitment etc etc. (we've never had any of these problems).

As for the turbo kit the donor didn't hold up his end of the bargain and never came back and let us jig the kit So basically we made a custom turbo kit for someone at cost.

However we will be making kits in the future and I promise you guys they will not be above $5200-5500 and will be just as potent as any of our current kits.

 

WOW...thats some underhanded **** right there.

 

Who was it? Was it someone off this forum?

 

That's pretty low

 

I'll pop a cap!

 

what it a member of this forum?

if so, what is their username?


And unless you have any heart break I was going to lock this thread and let you start another when your ready

 

That's fine bags, it's not a big deal about the turbo system we had to do alot of custom work for the kit to make it work. I think we're going to pursue supercharger systems for the maximas just for cost efficient reasons

 

What years are you planning on making them for?

 

Something along the lines of what the Stillen kit was?

 

ok.... then I'll lock this thread with this post. Your welcome to post anything you like about turbos or SC's. I just thought this thread has run it's course.

Sorry you got the shaft.