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Old 01-03-2004, 08:47 AM
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Question about turbo....

Hey guys, I'm actually hunting for a T3/T4B for my 2k1 max, this morning I was checking on e-bay if I can pick up a good deal, I oftenly see that some Turbo can be cooled by oil or water,( we have to specify ) what do you guys think would be the best for my max ? I'm looking to get in the 5-8 lbs of boost with an intercooler.

Also is there any Turbo brand that should be avoided because of poor quality, service etc.

Thank you for helping.

What do you think of this unit ? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2452173637

Thank you for helping me make this come thrue.

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Old 01-03-2004, 09:16 AM
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as far as staying away from brands I keep hearing mixed reviews on Turbonetics...none personally but on Honda Tech a few times.
water cooling is a plus, but not necessary. most people end up plugging the water in/outlets on the turbo anyways.
the turbo in the auction is okay...I'd look for somehting at least with a .60/.63(ie 57 trim and up)
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Old 01-03-2004, 09:33 AM
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Addae is right, .48ar on the turbine side is kinda low. I mean you will probably gain boost off idle but if you ever plan on going above 8 it is going to peak out very quick and cause backpressure issues.

Do at least a .60ar on the turbine side and you can probably get to full boost by 2500rpm (as i do).

Not to mention thats an internal wastegate turbo, you dont want that.

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you also want a T04E compessor not a T04B
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Old 01-03-2004, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDogJonx
Addae is right, .48ar on the turbine side is kinda low. I mean you will probably gain boost off idle but if you ever plan on going above 8 it is going to peak out very quick and cause backpressure issues.

Do at least a .60ar on the turbine side and you can probably get to full boost by 2500rpm (as i do).

Not to mention thats an internal wastegate turbo, you dont want that.

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Thank you brother, I didn't pay attention of the internal wastegate, anyhow I dont plan on buying on e-bay, I will probably end-up buying a brand new unit
from an authorised Turbonetics dealer. I got their price list and the T3/T4B with ceramic ball bearing is around 1500$ and the non CBB is 850$.

BTW what the ar stand for ( .60ar )

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Originally Posted by pawnstar12
you also want a T04E compessor not a T04B
I was told that the E trim is more for top end, which is not what I'm looking for since I live in the city, and the B trim spool much faster and apparently has less lag so sound like what I want.

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Old 01-03-2004, 01:43 PM
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There are different kind of To4B's. Really small and really big. Some guy in houston just made 700 hp with a To4B. To4E is a good size, believe me you don't want to step on the pedal and have your car torque steer somewhere you don't want it too. Expect to pay 3-5 grand on a turbo setup.
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I think internal wastegates are good for low boost. Most maximas have never gone over 15 lbs. boost. Internal wastegated turbo will spool much faster than non internal wastegates turbo.
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Originally Posted by doublea
I was told that the E trim is more for top end, which is not what I'm looking for since I live in the city, and the B trim spool much faster and apparently has less lag so sound like what I want.

Thank you for your input.

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A straight T04E turbo has more lag yeah thats why you get the T3 turbine with the T04 compressor, your spool up will be fine
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Originally Posted by spanishrice
I think internal wastegates are good for low boost. Most maximas have never gone over 15 lbs. boost. Internal wastegated turbo will spool much faster than non internal wastegates turbo.
why will a internally wastgated turbo spool faster than a externaly wastgated turbo. ive never heard this before
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Internally wastegated are only good for low boost though. I know I have something in my favorites about this, I find tomorrow I am tired.
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Originally Posted by spanishrice
Internally wastegated are only good for low boost though. I know I have something in my favorites about this, I find tomorrow I am tired.
What do you consider low boost? There are plenty of guys I know running around with well over 23psi on a internal w/g. I am not sure if that is what you would consider low boost. 23psi is a good amount.
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I say less than 12 psi. I know alot of SE-R's use internally wastegated turbos.
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