super or turbo?
06-25-2004, 01:28 AM
#1
super or turbo?
Last edited by Maximeltman; 08-31-2011 at 12:52 AM.
06-25-2004, 07:27 AM
#7
It was the SC I didn't like. But it just doesn't make that much power. Nothing in the low rpms since it's rpm dependent. You don't hit full boost until redline. So the car never really feels that fast. And mine was not reliable, I had my SC for 15 months, and it broke 2 belts and melted the pulleys.
The person who bought my SC made 278 whp and ~240 ft/lbs torque. That was with the same 3.33 pulley and ~8.5 psi that I had. This is on an auto maxima as is mine, so mine should have been putting down similar numbers (I never dynoed the SC). Those are good numbers. But my new turbo setup is putting out 300.9 whp and 312.4 ft/lbs at only 7 psi. And I have full boost from 3500rpm on. The car simply feels better.
The person who bought my SC made 278 whp and ~240 ft/lbs torque. That was with the same 3.33 pulley and ~8.5 psi that I had. This is on an auto maxima as is mine, so mine should have been putting down similar numbers (I never dynoed the SC). Those are good numbers. But my new turbo setup is putting out 300.9 whp and 312.4 ft/lbs at only 7 psi. And I have full boost from 3500rpm on. The car simply feels better.
Originally Posted by Luquire
What made you not like the turbo. I have heard it just doesnt seem natural and fluid
06-25-2004, 10:55 AM
#8
Originally Posted by Shadow
It was the SC I didn't like. But it just doesn't make that much power. Nothing in the low rpms since it's rpm dependent. You don't hit full boost until redline. So the car never really feels that fast. And mine was not reliable, I had my SC for 15 months, and it broke 2 belts and melted the pulleys.
The person who bought my SC made 278 whp and ~240 ft/lbs torque. That was with the same 3.33 pulley and ~8.5 psi that I had. This is on an auto maxima as is mine, so mine should have been putting down similar numbers (I never dynoed the SC). Those are good numbers. But my new turbo setup is putting out 300.9 whp and 312.4 ft/lbs at only 7 psi. And I have full boost from 3500rpm on. The car simply feels better.
The person who bought my SC made 278 whp and ~240 ft/lbs torque. That was with the same 3.33 pulley and ~8.5 psi that I had. This is on an auto maxima as is mine, so mine should have been putting down similar numbers (I never dynoed the SC). Those are good numbers. But my new turbo setup is putting out 300.9 whp and 312.4 ft/lbs at only 7 psi. And I have full boost from 3500rpm on. The car simply feels better.
06-26-2004, 11:44 PM
#10
thanks you guys. but i now cannot get the quaife lsd, and it was the only diff i'd consider because of its all-gear/no pressure plate/clutch design. 
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06-27-2004, 05:30 AM
#12
I think it's probably Mardi. He did over 400 on the spray, but it was a pretty small shot. So his dyno without the spray should have been pretty crazy. Or I30krab. He hit 400whp at 5900 rpm with spray.
BTW, Hal's dyno numbers were done with spray. So it's not a good comparison. Ramius83 has done 393 whp on his turbo without nitrous.
BTW, Hal's dyno numbers were done with spray. So it's not a good comparison. Ramius83 has done 393 whp on his turbo without nitrous.
Originally Posted by michaelnyden
what is the highest SC maxima dynoed on the boards here? without spray of course? I know what the highest turbo is.....hlh
06-27-2004, 08:52 AM
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nigel has done 420 or something on his pfi turbo kit w/o spraying....i think....but hlh's spray was very small from what I hear too....anyway...what is the highest dynoed supercharger #'s on the boards here...???? anyone know?
basically debating whether or not the double price of a turbo kit for its extra power over a supercharger is worth it....
basically debating whether or not the double price of a turbo kit for its extra power over a supercharger is worth it....
06-27-2004, 09:12 AM
#14
Well, if you look in the Dyno Forum Turbo97SE has the highest Dyno with a turbo and without spray.
372.10 hp - 369.20 tq - 1997 SE manual
But then again, everyone knows the Dyno Forum has been locked up forever and is not at all accurate.
Anyway - sounds like Ramius83 is the winner for the non-spray crowd.
If I started all over - I'd probably do Turbo at this point in time. But I'm already well invested into the SC and don't have time, now that I'm married, to be going about swapping everything out anyway.
IanS
372.10 hp - 369.20 tq - 1997 SE manual
But then again, everyone knows the Dyno Forum has been locked up forever and is not at all accurate.
Anyway - sounds like Ramius83 is the winner for the non-spray crowd.
If I started all over - I'd probably do Turbo at this point in time. But I'm already well invested into the SC and don't have time, now that I'm married, to be going about swapping everything out anyway.
IanS
06-27-2004, 11:59 AM
#18
Without nitrous, it would be hard, but not impossible. It just requires a lot of mods because you can only get the SC to spin so fast before you overspin it.
Originally Posted by michaelnyden
so in other words, on a 5spd 4th gen (my car), it would almost impossible to hit 350@wheels with a SC setup?
06-27-2004, 06:25 PM
#19
Originally Posted by iansw
Well, if you look in the Dyno Forum Turbo97SE has the highest Dyno with a turbo and without spray.
372.10 hp - 369.20 tq - 1997 SE manual
But then again, everyone knows the Dyno Forum has been locked up forever and is not at all accurate.
Anyway - sounds like Ramius83 is the winner for the non-spray crowd.
If I started all over - I'd probably do Turbo at this point in time. But I'm already well invested into the SC and don't have time, now that I'm married, to be going about swapping everything out anyway.
IanS
372.10 hp - 369.20 tq - 1997 SE manual
But then again, everyone knows the Dyno Forum has been locked up forever and is not at all accurate.
Anyway - sounds like Ramius83 is the winner for the non-spray crowd.
If I started all over - I'd probably do Turbo at this point in time. But I'm already well invested into the SC and don't have time, now that I'm married, to be going about swapping everything out anyway.
IanS
07-08-2004, 09:28 AM
#20
Originally Posted by Shadow
I think it's probably Mardi. He did over 400 on the spray, but it was a pretty small shot. So his dyno without the spray should have been pretty crazy. Or I30krab. He hit 400whp at 5900 rpm with spray.
BTW, Hal's dyno numbers were done with spray. So it's not a good comparison. Ramius83 has done 393 whp on his turbo without nitrous.
BTW, Hal's dyno numbers were done with spray. So it's not a good comparison. Ramius83 has done 393 whp on his turbo without nitrous.
Just my $.02
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