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Old 09-16-2004, 12:06 AM
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No problem, just thought i would try to help. I found this on the web, maybe it will be usefull to you http://www.thecityofwashingtondc.org/machineshop/
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That might help alot thanks so much for your help

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If the price wasn't too rediculous, I'd bet you could find a few people willing to buy a set of stronger gears.
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Well actually a guy down in Maryland named Rob who has done a couple of trannies (auto's) can do it so I will try to see if I can work on a deal and I will let you all know. Im not going for too much higher in the geaR ratio. But i would like to smooth out the power bands a little and also make gears strong as he!!. Cause Im tried of blowing trannies.

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Rob at NRH, baahahahahaa, it will take till the next millenium for him to get anything done, so sad.
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Old 09-17-2004, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MardiGrasMax
Rob at NRH, baahahahahaa, it will take till the next millenium for him to get anything done, so sad.
What is he that slow, Rich has said nothing but good things about him. Do you know something that your not telling me. I want to know. Cause I like to know who Im dealing with before I start.

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Rob does great work and is a genious, but at times he can be VERY sloooooooooow cause of the lack of real help...none the less if you have time though and its not urgent, hes your man!

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What is he that slow, Rich has said nothing but good things about him. Do you know something that your not telling me. I want to know. Cause I like to know who Im dealing with before I start.

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Old 09-17-2004, 06:57 AM
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Yeah hes great and I have at least a year before the car is back on the road so I have time to waste. Does anyone have his number I lost it.

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from my calculations, you should be abble to do 180 mph+ with a fuel cut at 7700 rpm... that is, if you want to run that high.

how about some billet steel gears? they'd hold forever. Maybe I'll see if I can fab them up. I'm still learning CNC though. I need an engineering drawing of the OEM gears, and I'd be abble to make a CATIA (CAD) Drawing of them. I don't know how practical this will be though. It'll be pricey as heck.

I still need to decide if I want to even attemp somthing like this. If I can get a detailed drawing of all the gears, and the dog teeth in our trannies, it'll be easier. But I just don't know if I can take on such a big project.

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There is a company out there called PAR, they make tranny gear sets for the FWD SR20DE trannies for the B13,B14 Sentras. They have problems with stock trannies not holding up 3rd gear durring racing usage. PAR has come up with a syncronized gear set and a dog set. The gears cost around 2500 dollars and practically repleace everything inside the tranny but the differential. After a year of hard road racing usage on some 400-500WHP Sentras there have been no sign of wear on the gears. I know a guy who went through about 7 trannies on his 580WHP 200SX SE-R, then finally after all that he went with the PAR gear set. Hal, when will the turbo Ypipes be avalible ?
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
There is a company out there called PAR, they make tranny gear sets for the FWD SR20DE trannies for the B13,B14 Sentras. They have problems with stock trannies not holding up 3rd gear durring racing usage. PAR has come up with a syncronized gear set and a dog set. The gears cost around 2500 dollars and practically repleace everything inside the tranny but the differential. After a year of hard road racing usage on some 400-500WHP Sentras there have been no sign of wear on the gears. I know a guy who went through about 7 trannies on his 580WHP 200SX SE-R, then finally after all that he went with the PAR gear set. Hal, when will the turbo Ypipes be avalible ?
So do you think that I could try to contact them and see if they might be able to cut me some gears too. This would be great and Im sure since they know nissans they should be able to help me out. Does anyone have a pone number and web page or email address. Thanks,

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I'm wondering what is different in the VQ35 Altima 5spd tranny. I'd bet at least the axles are thicker, but maybe there is more?
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
I'm wondering what is different in the VQ35 Altima 5spd tranny. I'd bet at least the axles are thicker, but maybe there is more?
Are the 3.5 Maxima & Altima wheel bases the same width?
Are there any Nissan trucks/SUV's with the same 3.5 thats in both of those vehicles? If so I wonder if those have stronger internals & if there compatible?
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Originally Posted by nostrixoxide
Are the 3.5 Maxima & Altima wheel bases the same width?
Are there any Nissan trucks/SUV's with the same 3.5 thats in both of those vehicles? If so I wonder if those have stronger internals & if there compatible?
It might not really sure the width will matter cause the engine is mounted in a different place and one shaft might be a little shorter or longer on both sides. So you might want to take that into consideration.

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i think 600hp would be the max on a stock VQ. and it would prob last for about 2 years
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i dont see y u cant run up to 700hp on the max. i just fear that your tranny might break on you.
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Originally Posted by liqidvenom
i dont see y u cant run up to 700hp on the max. i just fear that your tranny might break on you.

More power means more combusion and more heat and scaring internals. That is why you dont see any of the pro guys running stock anything on their 600hp motors. Honestly the internals have a limit and it all depends how it is built. VQ is a very stout motor but dont think that the pros in JGTC who use the VQ30 in their GT500 class dont have stock motors.
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Originally Posted by desertmaxima
More power means more combusion and more heat and scaring internals. That is why you dont see any of the pro guys running stock anything on their 600hp motors. Honestly the internals have a limit and it all depends how it is built. VQ is a very stout motor but dont think that the pros in JGTC who use the VQ30 in their GT500 class dont have stock motors.
Of course those cars don't use stock engines. They have to be able to run at or near redline for 3 plus hours. NO street VQ30 will see that abuse.
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why does this thread keep popping up to the front (i actually know why, but please just let it die) hal sold his car to neal already.

hal-are you planning on blowing up an vq's anytime soon?

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Originally Posted by papasmurf
yeah I have a connection with http://www.diversifiedcryogenics.com/. I know the manager. But that can only help so much I really need to find a shop in the washington/baltimore area that can make me gears out of something stonger. But thatnks for your help and suggestion. Im actually going to cryo treat my whole engine and parts.

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SH|T wrong thread ... oh well while I'm here

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Originally Posted by slimer
hal-are you planning on blowing up an vq's anytime soon?
haha, not anytime soon.... less I decide to spray the I?
I've sold out to the I6... and if it blows, not only will I be broke, I'm quitting cars altogether

ps. on the topic of stock motor power... Tim (of Indy) put down 1017whp with his stock 2JZ (including pistons/rods/head/intake manif) this month
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Originally Posted by hlh0501
ps. on the topic of stock motor power... Tim (of Indy) put down 1017whp with his stock 2JZ (including pistons/rods/head/intake manif) this month
On a VQ30? In a maxima?
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Originally Posted by JClaw
On a VQ30? In a maxima?
do you not know wtf a 2jz is?
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Daaaayyyymn....got link?

Originally Posted by hlh0501
ps. on the topic of stock motor power... Tim (of Indy) put down 1017whp with his stock 2JZ (including pistons/rods/head/intake manif) this month
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Dont really care for Supras or IS300s... aint this the home of the Maxima Enthousiast ? 1000WHP Supras are just DYNO queens. You never see one on a road or drag strip, even with that much power they still can run the times that - I must say, DSMs run with 2 less cylinders. I think 8s from a 4 banger is a good time especially considering it still has its original unibody.
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yeah, didnt you watch the fast and the furious.

theyre mad whack yo
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1

Daaaayyyymn....got link?
First of all... it's a damn good looking car!
He dynoed the 1017 bolting a 80mm on, and dynoing on his 76 tune so there is more power in it (which has now been made, but is not public.) It was only 35psi, no spray, C16.
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Blackbird: You are a fool for saying they are dyno queens.
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I would love to see one run against a Galant VR4 here in Chicago, it runs high 9s and its streetable. Its not a dyno queen like almost all the high HP supras are !
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
I would love to see one run against a Galant VR4 here in Chicago, it runs high 9s and its streetable. Its not a dyno queen like almost all the high HP supras are !
Let me guess, AMS's? They are from Louisville, I am well aware of them. As far as "almost all the high HP supras" being dyno queens, this shows your ignorance and "bandwagon" approach to Supras. I'd be willing to say that many/most all of them are not.
-Ryan, a good friend locally, daily drives his 800+whp Supra, and is in the process of putting a GT42 on to jump over 1000whp. He street races, and runs at the track. He runs 6's in the 1/8th, and is determined to make his 9second pass come early March.
-Tim, from Indy.. that made 1017 on stock motor... he drives his on the street from time to time, and loves taking it to IRP. He ran 10.0 on his old 6speed ~800hp setup and drove it home...
-Marko, made 1520whp UNLOCKED! (~2000hp?), and drives his Supra a LOT. He has 4 cars and still managed to put 5000 miles on his Supra last year. He also managed to run a crappy 8.4 on his old 1100hp setup, and proceded to drive it home from the track!
-PeterB made 1100+ and visited the track last week for the second time in January, to lay down a 9.3 and a 1.3 second 60' with the stock 6 SPEED, no spray!! That is amazing for a manual IRS CAR!!

Those are just a few I could think of off hand.

Also, when you talk about the DSMs.... those are stripped shells, that are not enjoyable to drive around (not to mention how 9/10 of them look...) All the supras I just listed are full weight (~3600+), with air conditioning, leather, etc - something you could take a girl out in.
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First off, you don't need 800+whp to run 9s. Either those cars have traction issues or like Blackbird says, they're dyno queens in the sense that their peak HP numbers lead you to believe they are faster.

Originally Posted by hlh0501
-PeterB made 1100+ and visited the track last week for the second time in January, to lay down a 9.3 and a 1.3 second 60' with the stock 6 SPEED, no spray!! That is amazing for a manual IRS CAR!!
Was that on slicks?
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Originally Posted by JClaw
Was that on slicks?
Yes, he was on slicks, and as I said.. he was not spraying - that was his shakedown pass. His 1100+ dyno was on the bottle.

I think maybe the weight is part of people's problems. They don't realize that Supra guys take pride in their cars, and want them nice. Rather than shaving everything possible off the car, they make more power I'd like to see shepherds car run @ 3600pounds haha
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-PeterB made 1100+ and visited the track last week for the second time in January, to lay down a 9.3 and a 1.3 second 60' with the stock 6 SPEED, no spray!! That is amazing for a manual IRS CAR!!


thats insane for a 6spd

what kills me is that the current rage is to swap biult autos in every high HP car but in reality its still possible to run great times with a stick. sure its ALOT easier to run them in an auto with a T-brake but still that kinda destroys the point in owning a REALLY fast street car
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I think it's fine for those guys to be running full, street cars with everything in them. But I simply do not understand why they need such high hp to lay down those numbers. My dad's old '83 Firebird (R.I.P) dynoed 485whp a mere week before it ran a best ever of 10.37 at 129.77 mph, on a 1.37 60'. Full interior, steel body, seats and all. Granted it had a basic roll bar (you don't run low 10s without a roll bar unless you're suicidal) There maybe was 100 pounds of **** you needed to put back in there for it to be full (say, radio and AC). But that thing still would've pulled a 10.4 (and believe me those f-bodies aren't exactly "light") with less than 500whp on a primitive suspension. I see plenty of other heavy *** f-bodies doing similar HP/ET ratios.
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Originally Posted by subs1000w
thats insane for a 6spd

what kills me is that the current rage is to swap biult autos in every high HP car but in reality its still possible to run great times with a stick. sure its ALOT easier to run them in an auto with a T-brake but still that kinda destroys the point in owning a REALLY fast street car
Yes, it was quite impressive for a 6speed car!
The built auto swap is no rage, it's a classic. In all reality, although a 6speed with very good driver can go fast, a built auto is going to be faster. It does not have to respool when you shift. Also, it can launch better / more consistently. In order to pull a 1.3 60' , the 2900$ cc clutch was slipped through the whole first gear... not going to last long like that. Also, SW was driving Blach's car - for those of you who don't know, he is one of the best drivers. Viper owners often call on him , and even fly him in to drive their cars. SW managed a 1.6, 1.3 and a 1.6. The auto will go 1.3 , 1.3 , 1.3

Also, one thing to note - not sure if you are aware, but the reverse manual valvebodies that most all 3speed supra guys are running (including myself) still have to be manually shifted. Whatever gear you have it in, it stays there. So, you can still enjoy the car - play, powerslide, blah blah.

Enough on supras, more maxima talk!
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AMS from IL has a Galant that runs in the high 9s, they have a older JDM spec EVOII runing low 9s and the car is driven on the street at times. I can build a DSM to run those times for less than a stock Supra asking price. We talking drag cars here, cause a Supra aint really a road racer or a autoX car eighter. I'm not into drag racing, I reather spend 20 min road racing on a track than 10 sec going down the 1/4 mile.
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Originally Posted by JClaw
I think it's fine for those guys to be running full, street cars with everything in them. But I simply do not understand why they need such high hp to lay down those numbers. My dad's old '83 Firebird (R.I.P) dynoed 485whp a mere week before it ran a best ever of 10.37 at 129.77 mph, on a 1.37 60'. Full interior, steel body, seats and all. Granted it had a basic roll bar (you don't run low 10s without a roll bar unless you're suicidal) There maybe was 100 pounds of **** you needed to put back in there for it to be full (say, radio and AC). But that thing still would've pulled a 10.4 (and believe me those f-bodies aren't exactly "light") with less than 500whp on a primitive suspension. I see plenty of other heavy *** f-bodies doing similar HP/ET ratios.
do you realize we are talking about running mid low 9's not 10's? A supra with similar whp and Auto can run 10's all day also....there is a big difference in mid-low 10 and a mid-low 9. I guess some of my buddies 900rwp SC'ed Vipers running mid-low 9's isn't impressive either? The fact is at that weight you "NEED" that much power to run deep into the 9's with a 6 speed tranny. The Vipers have some of the nastiest power curves and until recently the Supras were dominating them at the track running faster #'s and higher mph's.
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It is possible to run good times on the 6 spd., but blow one up and you're out $4K. That's why a lot of the really fast Supras are on autos. My friend's ran an 8.56 @~170 on radials after swapping in the auto. He competed in the NDRA street tire class. All the top guys in that class ran autos. They all started w/ 6 spds., but due to reliability issues dropped the autos in.

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-PeterB made 1100+ and visited the track last week for the second time in January, to lay down a 9.3 and a 1.3 second 60' with the stock 6 SPEED, no spray!! That is amazing for a manual IRS CAR!!


thats insane for a 6spd

what kills me is that the current rage is to swap biult autos in every high HP car but in reality its still possible to run great times with a stick. sure its ALOT easier to run them in an auto with a T-brake but still that kinda destroys the point in owning a REALLY fast street car
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It is possible to run good times on the 6 spd., but blow one up and you're out $4K. That's why a lot of the really fast Supras are on autos. My friend's ran an 8.56 @~170 on radials after swapping in the auto. He competed in the NDRA street tire class. All the top guys in that class ran autos. They all started w/ 6 spds., but due to reliability issues dropped the autos in.
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