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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 02:16 PM
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NEW, Leaky Blower !!

Well after seeing Oil residue under my blower I took a closer look and the leaks coming right from the seal bwtween the halfs in the front of the blower..I can wipe it off, take a ride and there will be dripp marks. Of course only 350 miles on the blower from the rebuild from vortech

I called vortech and talked to one of the supervisors and he said Ill have to take it off, ship it to them my cost and they will be able to reuild it with a down time of 7-14 working days. I have to call back on Monday to talk to the head service manager there (jaime)...this really does Pi** me off because that was the reason I sent it out to Vortech in the first place..so i wouldnt get leaks, and look what Im left with, A LEAK ..
This always happens to me

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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 02:24 PM
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sorry to hear that, when you talk to the service manager really act like a d!ck and make them reemburse you somehow, 1st by not making you pay for shipping and 2nd for the down time and labor of takin it off, tell them u dont take it off urself (unless you really dont) and be like i have to pay a mechanic everything time take it off....some bullsh!t like that. or even better be like for this i want you to upgrade my v1 to a v2 for cheaper then the normal trade in cost. i dunno best of luck, things will work out. nice car by the way
Old Oct 22, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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Sorry to hear about that matty. I would pressure them that they should reimburse you for out of pocket expenses in sending back the blower since they screwed up. As for turnaround time it may take longer as they put your job in queue.
Old Oct 22, 2004 | 02:52 PM
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This is bullshi*..i just felt the bottom of the blower and its all Oily and its definetly not from the drain back because you can see oil marks down the side of the blower...

If you look at the front of the blower from the front of the car and you see those two allen keys facing the engine (small holding that little semi-circle thing on the side of the blower) thats where its coming from..I wiped off the black plate under the blower probably 45 miles ago, its all oily again...

Im pi**ed cause now I need to take it off the car, send it out my expence and have the down time of the car...Im really going to wait till monday to talk to the top service manager, Jaime, at Vortech..thats the only guy that can do anything for me

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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 04:25 PM
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I popped the intake off..there is oil laying in the fin housing...this is very bad

A Brand NEW Rebuild Blower with 350 miles on it and this is happening...Vortech will need to something really good for me to make me happy..ill tell you that

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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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The oil is all over the Inlet of the blower, on the fins and down into the Cold Air Intake setup I have...there is barely 350 miles on this rebuilt blower..>WTF.....this is VERY BAD MAN and Vortech better take care of this
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 11:01 PM
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When you talk to the Jaime guy, don't get an attitude like a previous post recomends. Be firm, but be cool. They should pay for the shipping, but I would try and get labor fees out of them like the other post recomends as well. If your honest and cool about it, most likely they will be too.
Old Oct 23, 2004 | 02:41 AM
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that freaking sucks man, u sent that blower out the first time to solve these BS issues now u gotta do it again...i would be sooo pissed.
Old Oct 23, 2004 | 09:35 AM
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This is a really bad situation...Im going to talk to Jaime about it and be civil..I would get nowhere if I just yelled and screamed...when you look at this situation carefully, its bad...now Im going to have to take the blower off, have the down time of the car, and send it back to them, when in the first place, thats why i had them rebuild it so I wouldnt have to go threw with this..

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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by matty
This is a really bad situation...Im going to talk to Jaime about it and be civil..I would get nowhere if I just yelled and screamed...when you look at this situation carefully, its bad...now Im going to have to take the blower off, have the down time of the car, and send it back to them, when in the first place, thats why i had them rebuild it so I wouldnt have to go threw with this..

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I vote for the civil but firm approach. Take the attitude that you have been wronged by them, but you don't gain anything by taking a PO'd attitude.

You can drive your car without the blower and bracket installed. Just put back on the oem accessory belt. You might have to go back to whatever intake you had before in order to run an air filter.
Old Oct 23, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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350 miles = Oil on the inlet hole and on the fins = Very bad

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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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This blo*s...

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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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Votech claims the problem may not be the blower being improperly rebuilt...

They want to blame that there is too much oil pressure for the Unit and thats whats causing the leak. Nothing on my car would increase oil pressure and my drain line has NO kinks or anything in it...

They also wanna blame the BOV for not working properly in releasing air but it is...i get little surges every once and while, but 300 miles, Come on....

They cant pinpoint anything yet because they havent seen the Blower yet...They are pretty sure its being caused by something else on my car


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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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What would make your blower leak oil that is on your car? ****, for 300 miles.. I dont think so. Its a business, of course they will point the finger. Have you taken it off yet and confirmed that it is in fact the blower? I hope this krap doesnt happen to me. I have about the same luck
Old Oct 25, 2004 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by vortechpower
What would make your blower leak oil that is on your car? ****, for 300 miles.. I dont think so. Its a business, of course they will point the finger. Have you taken it off yet and confirmed that it is in fact the blower? I hope this krap doesnt happen to me. I have about the same luck
There is Oil inside of the Inlet Hole and on the Fins on the Compressor side of the blower, the blower has to be leaking..thats the first sign of a problem...I also have oil leaking out of the front and rear of the blower...

I cant think of anything on an engine that would increase Oil pressure and he talked about Oil Back pressure as well

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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 04:58 AM
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I have had some oil (very small amount) in the inlet side before but none really "on " the impeller. It s never been a problem since I noticed it 60,000 ago. If your leaking out the front I would say thats a problem. You never put the blower on prior to sending to vortech right? I cant see how your motor some how created this problem on a like new unit in 300 miles. Looks like you dont have any other choice but to send it back and hope that it is something on their behalf.

How much oil do you put in your motor, stock is 4 1/2 qt
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 07:36 AM
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yea I put the stock 4 1/2 qts in the engine

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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 08:14 AM
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Jaime is the best one to deal with there. I've spoken to another guy and he's useless.
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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I usually put just shy of 5 qts of mobile 1 10w-30 in.
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 03:54 PM
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So a BOV Shouldnt Sputter/Flutter after coming off of Boost ?? It should be a constant flow of air when you come off of boost ??

Mine flutters and I was told thats what is known as surge

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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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If you have a Blitz BOV... I just have it adjusted so that it "bleeds" air at idle... assuming you have a good vacuum of about 15+
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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Mine has always fluttered as well. With the old V1 and now the new V2 blower.

I'm pretty sure that's perfectly normal for a SC.
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 04:48 PM
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Mine has always fluttered as well. With the old V1 and now the new V2 blower.

I'm pretty sure that's perfectly normal for a SC.
That's odd... mine is just a big "swoosh" after boosting... like a bus.

I figure if the engine isn't under load it should be bleeding off boost so that you don't have as much parasitic belt hp loss caused by the compression of the air...
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 07:10 PM
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Well mine has fluttered since day one and it does let out a good amount of air at idle ever since I adjusted it out, less pressure on the spring, and I cleaned and greased the rod on the BOV..and Im at -20in of vaccum

I was told the flutter is a surge...my BOV, at high boost, Flutters then it whistels till I step back on the gas...
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 07:31 PM
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Ah hell, it sounds really good. Maybe the flutter sound is just the sound of all of the air being released and you just hear it through the cai. I have found if you loosen the bov to where it does not "flutter" your not gettting max power out of it.
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Well, when I say flutter, I mean under moderate boost (under 6PSI) and when in vacuum above my boost point of 2700RPM. (Like cruising at 65mph).

Under the full 13PSI, I get a phat "Psssssssht" out of my BOV.
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 09:21 PM
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I get a flutter even at high boost..10-11...right when I let off the gas I hear a flutter


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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 11:02 PM
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i never got a flutter. No matter when i let off gas, its one big woosh, sometimes small but...hey matty make a video of your bov sound...it would really help in determining whats the problem.
Old Oct 27, 2004 | 05:42 AM
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There prob is not a problem. Its just the adjustment of the bov. If its set tight enough to not release air until after 5psi or so than the air has to be going somewhere. So at low rpm's its just a deep woosh sound cause its not that much excess pressure going out the cai (unless maybe its really tight) . Then when you hit more or max boost your bov releases air but just before it does maybe back pressure is created and when released it goes out both ends (more going out the bov). "The above statement has no solid factual evidence"
My blitz is not heard until 3000rpm or more, before is just a woosh but it is still bleeding of some air
Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:23 AM
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Could you take a pic of your Blitz BOV, matty? I'm at a constant 15+ vacuum and I'd like to see how low/high you've set your adjustment screw on top.
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any updates matty?
Old Oct 27, 2004 | 10:57 AM
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Ive been sick and Ive had alot of studyin to do for midterms...
The blower will be comin off tomorrow hopefully and be sent out friday hopefully...Im going to call Vortech today and talk to Jaime...I havent touched base with him at all..

The bottom of the case is very oily, if you run the car enough it will drip out the front and rear of the case...vortech is blaming my car, oil pressure being too HIGH ??

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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 11:56 AM
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Tell Jaime that the consensus in this forum doesn't agree with his high oil pressure diagnosis.
Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackCat
Jaime is the best one to deal with there. I've spoken to another guy and he's useless.
Have you ever talked to Jaime...I will be callin him tomorrow, he a nice guy

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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 08:07 AM
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Have you ever talked to Jaime...I will be callin him tomorrow, he a nice guy

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Yeah, I spoke with him 2 years ago when I had to get the bearings redone. More customer friendly than this other guy I spoke with.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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hey matty just reading your post and i feel for you. a few months ago i posted in the vendor section with my problems. i brought a brand new v2 blower and it got damaged about 3 months later. it started leaking oil and they blamed it on metal shavings which voided the warranty. now they told me if i ship it next day air they could get it back to me in 3 days. bullcrap it took them two months to send it back at a cost of 500.00 to repair. it took them 1 1/2 months to tell me that the it was damaged and another 1/2 month to fix. now i brought about 3 s/c's from them and thats how i got treated, they kept apologizing but i was still down for two months they blamed it on bad communication i called it bullcrap. i hope for a speedy recovery and hopefully three days is all it will take now good luck.
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I got every bolt off the back of the blower exept one...one was soo tight it stripped out the allen head...so now tomorrow Im gonna have to take a ride and have a head welded on it, so I can have it backed out with a rachet.....if thats possible

Im going to soak the bolt in methyl alcohol over night and see if that helps..I put too much locktight on the bolts...

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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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What type permytex did you use for the Drain Back plate ??

I used the 16B and its leaking alittle bit...Im going to have to take it off, and do it again

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Originally Posted by matty
I got every bolt off the back of the blower exept one...one was soo tight it stripped out the allen head...so now tomorrow Im gonna have to take a ride and have a head welded on it, so I can have it backed out with a rachet.....if thats possible

Im going to soak the bolt in methyl alcohol over night and see if that helps..I put too much locktight on the bolts...

-matt
thats exactly what vortech does to get there bolts off. they told me not to use locktite use antiseize because those suckers freeze on. its probably one of the little bolts so just weld on a nut and ratchet it off.



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