Looks like your car dave....even has the different color hatch

 

I have never heard of that. But this year expect about 3 or 4 1000+ horsepower Vq's.

 

open deck alum block... iffy... i considered the vq30det considering i had 3 motors, pistons, rods and BB turbo.... but decided against it because of the inherent issues with the block... the VQ bottom end is badass tho, no doubt.

granted, it is lighter, but the stock RB block is rumored to hold 2400 HP or something nuts like that, has the smoothness that only an inline 6 can have... and the stock motor can make 700 RWHP (only IC, turbo, exhaust and EFI mods).

 

hopefully i'll be finding out what the nissan VH45DE can do. full aluminum, dohc, 4.5 liter, v8. Q guys have easily pushed 600 or so hp on stock internals with a s/c and nitrous... i'm hoping to take it to the absolute limit to see how well it compares to the 2JZ and RB26 stock limits.

 

heh sounds like us in our VQ's

 

do not put a VQ ion a 240sx. please. you will get much more power from an RB and even an SR but the VQ totally throws off the balance of the car. The swap is extremely tight in the car and makes it front heavy. I am almost 100% positive the rb is lighter than the VQ but RB's are inline 6 not a V6. also with a VQ you will obviously have to run a single turbo setup. If i were you i would definetly go with RB or SR. I have an RB20 in my 240 and i love it. torque and HP basically matched to eachother.

 

The RB is much much much more heavier than the VQ, The VQ30 is all aluminium and if you take off the heads manifolds and stuff, with a redbull you can walk and take that thing home with you!

 

obviously you forgot they are made outta two different kind of metals. The Rb probally weight at least 100 lbs more than the VQ. Also would would be able to put the VQ closer to the firewall for better distrubution of weight. Only thing is that for higher than 500 whp numbers a stock RB will be more reliable with boost. With new pistons and rods, the VQ will out perform the RB. Single turbos are better, I would want a single turbo RB or a single turbo VQ.

 

no the pics dont work, I want to see the RB in the max!!

 

are you on crack??? VQ would be awesome in a 240 - lighter, BETTER weight distribution, and more torque. Problem is, like you said, it is a very tight squeeze.

 

I kno that with a VQ you can only fit a single turbo. same with the RB26. IMHO to get seriously high numbers and keep the balance as close to normal you can build an INSANE SR20. Highest output on a stock block SR is 515 whp. thats with headwork and fuel management only and obviously a larger turbo. VQ is just way too tight to put into a 240 IMHO. I would give anyone who put a VQ in their 240 tho alot of credit. Im not trying to start an arguement with anyone around here. its just that im around 240's and drifting almost everyday of my life, and i owned 240's since b4 drifting became "the cool thing to do"

 

talk about a tight fit i've seen a guy throw in the VH41DE into a S13... yes the 4.1 liter V8 out of the penultimate Q45

 

Me too no worries, I didn't mean to sound argumentative, I was just playin' around. BUT, also there is a certain stock bottomed SR in an RX7 that put down about 600whp.

 

yea, i have heard of that rx-7. i know u didnt mean to sound argumentative. but some people here on the .org are very touchy. anyways 240's own you and your mother. you can fit an LT1 motor in an 240 and 350 small block. they have kits to do it. not my cup of tea but i would rather be sr or rb20'd maybe even rb25'd ne day over a vq in a 240. just my 2 cents

 

LT1 = 350 Small Block

 

I know that i was using it interchangeably. an LT1 is a corvette motor correct. i Know of someone who did that swap in jersey

 

I'd much rather have a stock newer all alumn Vette motor in the 240 and take my 400hp all day, every day,7 days a week, 365 days a year without one problem and buy tune up parts from the local store. Verses a SR20 tuned to 5 mm of it's life

 

sr20's are basically bulletproof. ive been running mine daily for 3 years now no problems. putting down about 280-300 hp. depending on boost levels

 

A stock LS series Vette motor putting down 400+hp will run daily for 100,000+ miles.

 

but it sounds american!!! haha how much does the motor weigh? and what tranny do people use with it?

 

i wish the 350 in our van was worth a ****. we have a 2002 and already loses a quart of oil within 3,000 miles. my maxima doesn't do that even with oil leaking from some unknown place. i hope the vette engine is much better.

 

haha, I understand your reasoning, but you obviously know very little about the SR20det.
1. tuned to within 5mm of it's life will give you 550+whp. A reliable 400whp is not that difficult and you will still get 25+ mpg.
2. I buy all my tune up parts from the local parts store. Between the USDM SR20 (non-turbo) and the Z32tt, all of the maintenance parts are readily available at any parts store.

 

What do you think is going to be more reliable. A stock oem built LS series vette motor putting down 400hp from the factory. Or a SR20DET that's been modded to 400hp by some backyard mechanic? Which one has more hp/torque under the curves?

 

SR owns you and your mother . but seriously sr would outlast a corvette motor ne day of the week and get like 100 times better gas mileage. its super light so you really dont need as much hp as a vette motor puts out. and its not technicially modded by a back yard mechanic. the sr is just like working on ur max its just got a turbo on it. also with the sr you will keep the even weight distribution of the car. its meant to have an sr20 in it not a corvette engine. I say sr owns for drifting and rb would be ideal for drag. who wants a japanese car that sounds like a vette?

 

Whatever. The SR series is a good motor. How in the hell do you know a STOCK engine won't out last a back yarded modded SR20 pushing 200hp more than stock!?!?! The Vette motor is not that heavy either as it's all alum. I bet it's not that much heavier than the iron blocked SR engine.

I don't give a hoot wtf it sounds like. As long as it goes fast. You can have the sound, I'll take the reliable hp and the high arsed torque at 1500rpm that a V8 can give.

I mean really, you bash the vette motor and you want to put the iron blocked I-6 RB in?

 

You couldn't use a corvette motor. You woul dhave to use a Z28 transmission. The corvette transmission is build specifically for the corvette. The internals might be the same but the transmission on the corvette is towards the middle of the car. Its for weight distrubution. LS1's are very reliable.

 

i have an iron blocked RB20 in my other s13. im not bashing it by ne means. and with the v8 in it, it would probably only used for drag. Im into drift, where sick HP numbers arent needed to be good. its all about technique and driver skill. and to be honest with you, you cant get 200hp by doing back yard mods...some serious tuning is in order for that. not trying to start an arguement. just want to see other poeples views on diff motors.

 

LOL - you make some pretty radical and slanted statements. Would the SR really have to be modded in someones backyard?? And I guess you are talking about the 2005 LS6 since you are claiming 400 stock whp. I'm sure those are cheap and easily attainable as crate motors
Also, boost creates torque so most SR's have balanced tq/hp curves - it ain't no NA Honda.


With all that being said, actually I would agree that the stock LS6 would be more reliable. Ready my post! I didn't say the vette engine wouldn't be great, I just pointed out that you didn't seem to know much about the SR. Another statement by you that illustrates this fact...

The SR is a sleeved aluminum block.


Don't listen to Longboard, he's one of those "drifters"

 

I didn't know where cost entered the discussion.

I didn't know the SR block was aluminum. All SR blocks are?

 

I think you mean LS2. The LS6 was in early 90's corvettes. It is an iron block version of the LS1.

And yeah the SR is aluminum

 

Yes all SR blocks are aluminum, that is why it is a great swap into small cars. Even a big car since the SR has an incrediable torque curve.

 

Dave, don't ever question a fellow moderator or I will ban you and get you nothing for your birthday next week

 

Time to drop knowledge

LS1 with T56 tranny and oil: 460lbs according to a few sites

SR20DET weight with trans according to a few sites : 340ish with tranny

KA24DE weight 390ish with trans according to a few sites

The LS2 is the new corvette engine.

The LS6 is both the 2001-2004 Corvette Z06 small block all aluminum engine and the 454 big block in the 1970 chevelle ss 454.

LT1 showed up first in the corvette and then was the V8 engine option in the 93-97 firehawk and trans am, and camaro.


Umm I think that's all I have to say on the subject. Carry on.

 

oh yeah doh, I meant LT1

 

Neal - All right, I guess I know vette engines about as well as Jeff knows the SR. I meant LS2 - whatever the new one is.

Mike - don't make me pin you to the floor and cut a stinky one on your face like I used to do when we were kids!!!!

Jeff - I figured price entered into the discussion when you stated the SR mods had to be performed by a "backyard mechanic" hehe

Soooo...
Um, that guys got a nice RB huh **desperate attempt to get back on topic**

 

im not just one of "those drifters" i have one car for drift, and one for drag. sr20 for drift rb20 for drag. And im sure i know a hell of alot more about 240's than alot of the people on this forum. Once again not trying to start an arguement. but ive have an sr20 since before many people even acknowledeged the 240sx

 

doode, I was just playin. I thought we had that all figured out already?

 

haha self ownage. i jsut hate how everyone on the org is so touchy all the time. i dont know when people are joking or being serious. ne ways nissans own with ne motor in them. drifting it the "cool" thing to do. If its JDM it must be cool too...Drifting=powersliding around turns. thank you for your time

 

That was in reference to two motors putting out 400hp. One being stock, the other putting out 200hp more than it did stock

 

did you have one at age 14 seeing that you're 19 when did you get your first SR20 powered 240?

I bet I have ya beat j/p eheh