The Kid

i found this out from a friend who is getting one for his chevy. i think it would work the best for our cars and is the simplest thing ive seen yet check it out and tell me what u think. they dont have one for our car but i feel if we ask i think they could make one i think u guys will like this. and no lag and its in the rear of the car no need for headers just a cat back awsome.

heres the site:http://ststurbo.com/

heres the demo on how it works:http://www.ststurbo.com/sts_demo

frankd121

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SSR engineering already did something along those lines..

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=378986

Turbo's mounted to the transmission case...

Although I wish they would release one for the 3.0. Maybe you could ask these guys to do one for the 3.0..

vsamoylov

lets hear what everybody else think of this

The Kid

well if u look at the site and the demo u will see this is not hanging down off the transfercase. it uses stock exhaust manifolds just a new cat back system and its cooler and easier to install check it out. its not like ssr

The Kid

and the intake is also at the rear of the car thats y there is no lag.

frankd121

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lol, my bad...

thats a pretty good idea, they should put a shield over it to prevent everything from getting rusted over time...

seanwn

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i used to work for HPC. the people that coat all of sts's parts. first off the idea is awesome and great. as far as will they make one for our cars? never, i can guarantee that. they won't even make one for honda civics, quite possibly the most popular street racer car out there.

looslip

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how does that make it so that there is no lag? Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that the exhaust gases would have to accumulate enough pressure to spin the rotor so that the compressor works. With all that length in the piping, I would think that the lag would be enormous.

The Kid

y wouldnt they make one for ours there making one for acura?

frankd121

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You will still have lag; the exhaust gases still have to get all the way to the turbo to spool it up...the intake has nothing to do with it.
I think you'll get slightly more lag with this set up considering the turbo is so far away from the exhaust manifold--the pressure would have dropped considerably all the way back there. But once you get it going, boost will be nice and strong

frankd121

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Supply and demand my friend. There's alot more guys modding integras and civics out there than maximas. They're out to make money too.

The Kid

i really dont know but from what i understand from my buddy and the site theres virtualy no lag i agree with u i dont understand it eaither with all the piping. but there saying it has to do with the intake that they are able to keep the lag lower then normal turbos thats just to my understanding i could be wrong.

frankd121

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they're probably using a pretty small turbo to eliminate the lag, good for mid-range power, but you won't get that extra umph at the higher rpms. It's kinda cool cuz it'll give you that extra power where you would need it in everyday driving; not to say that there's a deficient amount with a stock max.

mingo

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i hope those people never drive in the rain, because that thing will turn into a sump pump if they went over a deep puddle

Dietro

I can't imagine how inefficient such a system would be. One reason why a typical turbo system is so efficient is because it uses energy (read: HEAT) from the exhaust. You mount the turbo that far from the exhaust valves and you are losing all kinds energy.

A turbo doesn't need to hang off the head(s), but it shouldn't be under the rear bumper either.

As mingo mentioned, one good size puddle and at best you'll be rebuilding your turbo, at worst you'll be rebuilding your turbo and your engine.

theMax

They installed it on a camaro on one of the car shows (hot rod TV I think) and the gains were not that impressive. As said all that intake piping cant be good as well as the air filter under the rear bumper.

CaLSoNiC

LT1 guys have been doing this forever...

pawnstar12

well think about it, before you reach boost there is air in the feed pipe. and when the exhaust leaves the manifolds it will move the air in the feed pipe through positive displacement into the turbo. the same goes for the charge pipe. so it shouldnt be that more laggy

DA-MAX

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eternal

hlh0501

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How many high horsepower chevy's run this? 0. The only reason it isnt real laggy is the size of the turbo. If you want to put a monster turbo on it, no one thinks "hey I'll put it as far from the head as possible!"

Nealoc187

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Been discussed before. Not a good idea. The reason they have it is for cars that have no room to plumb a turbo under the hood. Lag would INCREASE dramatically with a setup like this. The reason they say "no lag" is because they are using a fisher price turbo on a 5.7L SBC. If you want to run a baby turbo on your car then thats fine, but you won't make the power that other guys with more traditional setups are making. Also realize you aren't reading an objective source when you look at their website... of course they say it's a great idea, they want to sell their kit. But ask anyone who knows, and you will find that their setup is really for those too cheap or who lack the knowledge to use a well designed system.

Nealoc187

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Also some of the stuff they state as a benefit is a flat out lie. "Denser exhaust gasses drive the turbine more efficiently?" Ah, no. If that were the case everyone would run an intercooler in their exhaust piping to make them even cooler and denser. You want the hottest, highest energy exhaust gasses possible passing through the turbine. Not cold and dense. That company is getting more and more retarded by the minute as I read this crap.

Bags

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+ 1 billion

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....&highlight=STS

Bags

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and ANY of them making 500+ whp don't do this