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Old May 7, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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Bye Bye turbo maxima...

Well some of you may know that I recently sold my turbo kit, I reverted the max back to i/y/e and kept it as a DD. Its been a good 2 years being turboed and good 6 with modding the max in general. I've learned a lot thru the years from the org. and I like to thank all of you for helping out, without you guys I probably be another ricer on the street thinking I'm hardcore or something.

So gone is the turbo kit, in comes my next toy...





Orignally, I was looking into a couple of 350zTT but I met the owner of this EVO thru a friend. I first learned about the amount of mods and the time he had spent on this car, not only did he kept this car in immaculate condition but it's been garage kept most of its life. It was apparent then that this was the best deal for me.

Here are some specs of the car: (I still don't know all but heres what I remember)
03 EVO w/ ~27,500 miles (1 tiny door ding/1 little scratch on the rear bumper and some rock chips on the hood)
-motor was built @ 26K mles (not blown but the owner wanted upgrade internals so only 1500 on the built motor)
-Ross pistons
-Eagle rods
-Cosworth Bearings
-ARP hardware
-AMS 35r turbo kit
-AMS IC and lower IC piping kit
-1000cc injectors running with Cobb Acess Port
-AMS fuel rail with upgrade lines on (2) Walbro 255lph FP
-AMS 3in exhaust
-HKS 272 cams
-Tein Flex coilovers with EDFC
-VIS CF trunk and stock trunk w/ EVO III CF wing
-Defi Boost, EGT, Oil pressure with controller
-Innovative WB
-Exendy twin disk cermetalic clutch
-Advan RG 17x9, his race rims (13lbs per)
-Enkei Borex 18x9, street rims
and many more mods that I can't think of.

So prior to his build, he ran a 11.7 @123 on 26psi. I'm hoping to reach low 11's with the current setup. He is tunning the car this week with a base map of 20-22psi @ ~450ish whp and race gas setup will be upwards of 28-30psi. I'm excited to pick it up next week and start relearning how to drive an awd.

I will still be around the org. as I still will have the DD max, I hope I won't regret making this decision...so wish me luck!

p.s. the funny thing is this car has the same turbo that I ran on the max, its like I never sold the turbo at all.

O sorry for the long read and this wasn't related to a maxima...

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Old May 7, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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thats sexy , good luck with it, im sure that thing is fast a friend of mine had one pushing about 6oowhp and everytime i got a ride in it i was forced back in the seat.
Old May 7, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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Old May 8, 2008 | 07:56 AM
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niiiiiiiiice! Enjoy the new toy and let us know how it goes at the track! (videos please :-D)
Old May 8, 2008 | 08:27 AM
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looks excellent but be carefull with that drivetrain.... pm sent

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Old May 8, 2008 | 10:26 AM
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what's done to the drivetrain. trans, transfer case, and rear diff?
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Thats what i sent him a pm about sense stock everything but the rear is like glass He's well aware and i think they are stock
Old May 8, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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enjoy what its like to have power and traction....how is the lag on the turbo?


and be easy on the rest of the drivetrain if its stock
Old May 8, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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hrm why would he go through rebuilding the motor without stroking it? esp on a 35r

Anyways grats on the purchase!
Old May 8, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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I'm not certain, I think tranny has been taken apart when he did the clutch, I would have to double check with him. He's a engineer at Edge products so he tunes and looks at this type of stuff all day.
I'm looking at upgrading the transfer case with a Sheperd helical t-case or even Quaife if I can afford it and if the trans isn't done, a sheperd rebuild. I know he changes his trans, t-case and rear diff fluid every other oil change. The car isn't driven often enough to but I will for sure check on these things. Thanks guys for the heads up.
Old May 8, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by chopstix2nrz
hrm why would he go through rebuilding the motor without stroking it? esp on a 35r

Anyways grats on the purchase!
I have no idea? I'm just working with whats already done...
Old May 8, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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Dude if you want the best trans/transfer case setup send it to TRE...
Old May 8, 2008 | 04:58 PM
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From personal experiance TRE has VERY poor turnaround time and NO communication whatsoever. Try emailing them about turnaround time on a trans once or even try calling i bet you get no answer on either

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Old May 8, 2008 | 09:09 PM
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There are some local guys that do dsm trans, called Jackstranssmissions. I never heard of any complaints about them, and have some of the best prices.
Old May 8, 2008 | 10:13 PM
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I've actually looking into TRE and Sheperd right now but I'm not quite ready to upgrade since the extra money went to the down payment. I've pm Neal and doing more research as I go along. I'm looking at TRE's t case and rear diff work, they looks like really good deals but I also heard the lack of communication from the evom forums.
Old May 8, 2008 | 11:25 PM
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From personal experiance i would go/went with buschur racing, daniel buschur does there "bushwacker" rebuild and the **** is bulletproof like shep for cheaper. excellent guys over there. and Neal man i wish that was common knowlage because i would have contacted you when TRE had my trans for months on end with no contact...
Old May 12, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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Thanks Neal for getting me in touch with Jon, I'll be doing the tcase upgrade thru TRE in about a month or so. I'm loving the car so far, haven't been hard on it but the sound from the turbo spool is insane!
Old May 21, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by chopstix2nrz
hrm why would he go through rebuilding the motor without stroking it? esp on a 35r

Anyways grats on the purchase!
Found out the reason why he didn't stroke it... from what he said, most of the fastest drag evos are still 2.0s along with the fact that he wanted to be able to maintain higher revs too. Granted 2.3 has its benefits, he stuck with the 2.0.

Just ran a 12.9@104 with a 1.9 60' uncorrected,12.6 @106 corrected last friday. Took me the third time to get there with no experience racing an awd.

Total street setup, conservative street tune on 20psi with heavy 18in wheels and tires.
Old May 21, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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thats good, i was thinkin about goin the same route keepin my maxes in the garage and buildin a chevy powered 300zx but i change my mind again, will be dropping the turbo in my 95 in this pic below doin something like NEAL's Old setup!i am sure he was happy with it till he went the 3.5 route...
Old May 26, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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Good sale man. Looks very clean in the pix. Be easy on her if your into dragging that center diff no likey. My shop i go to has an RS with a blown center diff and it was bought from a Mitsu dealer.
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 02:52 AM
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gl...nice pics of ur new car....
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 06:16 AM
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Nice! Ive always liked the EVOs and I hope it is my next car also. Im never selling the max though
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35r BB is probably the best turbo for an EVO. it minimizes the insane amount of lag the engine produces. Good move, hope you like it!
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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Thanks alot guys! Unfortunately, still haven't had it tuned. Looking at the ign timing right now and its running so conversativie that its @ 3-5 degrees advance timing in the mid range and hi 10's on af... good thing it sits in the garage majority of the time but hopefully a couple more weeks from now, it'll get tuned so I can see what it really runs.
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Nice car. The new evos make me like the old ones so much more. lol
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Originally Posted by shortyblu95
From personal experiance TRE has VERY poor turnaround time and NO communication whatsoever. Try emailing them about turnaround time on a trans once or even try calling i bet you get no answer on either
If i recall Neal works with tre so the turnaround cant be too bad.
Old Jun 15, 2008 | 02:59 PM
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heres a couple updated pics...

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u ditched he gold wheels and added the wing back?
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Good. Those gold rims were ewww. Car looks good
Old Jun 15, 2008 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jcy98maxse
Found out the reason why he didn't stroke it... from what he said, most of the fastest drag evos are still 2.0s along with the fact that he wanted to be able to maintain higher revs too. Granted 2.3 has its benefits, he stuck with the 2.0.

Just ran a 12.9@104 with a 1.9 60' uncorrected,12.6 @106 corrected last friday. Took me the third time to get there with no experience racing an awd.

Total street setup, conservative street tune on 20psi with heavy 18in wheels and tires.
Nice choice!

What octane are you going to run on the car? Hopefully you can run a higher octane than 91 or 93 because the car doesn't shine until after 25 psi. I'm currently running 91 + 50/50 meth/water mixture.

What do you rev the car out to? It doesn't look like the car had any springs/retainers done so be careful about revving it too high. I rev to 8k on a 2.3 stroker with Cosworth head.


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Thanks alot guys! Unfortunately, still haven't had it tuned. Looking at the ign timing right now and its running so conversativie that its @ 3-5 degrees advance timing in the mid range and hi 10's on af... good thing it sits in the garage majority of the time but hopefully a couple more weeks from now, it'll get tuned so I can see what it really runs.
3-5 degree timing at peak torque is normal and is recommended... well, as long as knock count doesn't spike.
Old Jun 16, 2008 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by liqidvenom
u ditched he gold wheels and added the wing back?
The car actually came with 2 sets of rims, the gold Advans w/ Kumho Victor Racers and these Eneki Borex w/ Bf-Gs. The advan are freaking light, they are only 13lbswhile the Enekis are a lot heavier.
The old pics that I posted had the cf trunk which was traded for the stock trunk and wing cause it was leaky.
I'm went wingless for like 5 mins and did not like the holes and glue residue on the trunk so I put it back on, the only way I'll go back is if I find a non leaky CF trunk

I'm so itching for the APR's rear dffuser. lol

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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Y2KevSE
Nice choice!

What octane are you going to run on the car? Hopefully you can run a higher octane than 91 or 93 because the car doesn't shine until after 25 psi. I'm currently running 91 + 50/50 meth/water mixture.

What do you rev the car out to? It doesn't look like the car had any springs/retainers done so be careful about revving it too high. I rev to 8k on a 2.3 stroker with Cosworth head.




3-5 degree timing at peak torque is normal and is recommended... well, as long as knock count doesn't spike.
Yup! The car don't see nothing but 91. Currently on 20psi on the 35r with it running pig rich and the timing that I mention. It'll be tuned in a couple weeks with a better street tune with the current boost level, then one at 26psi and one for 110 octane @ 28-29psi.

Rev limit is set at 8k right now with a 2.0 built bottom end and stock head, I'm planning sometime this winter to go with headwork, Cosworth valves/retainers, BC 280 cams and some sort of upgrade IM. I plan on reving that to 8.5k or 9k if I was making power up there. Still toying with the idea of getting a 37r or the new AMS GT850R... but turbo upgrade would the last thing to do on the list.

I might see anywhere from 1-3 counts of knock if any on the Accessport, majority of the time it stays at 0 under WOT.

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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jcy98maxse
Yup! The car don't see nothing but 91. Currently on 20psi on the 35r with it running pig rich and the timing that I mention. It'll be tuned in a couple weeks with a better street tune with the current boost level, then one at 26psi and one for 110 octane @ 28-29psi.

Rev limit is set at 8k right now with a built bottom end and stock head, I'm planning sometime this winter to go with headwork, Cosworth valves/retainers, BC 280 cams and some sort of upgrade IM. Still toying with the idea of getting a 37r or the new AMS GT850R... but turbo upgrade would the last thing to do on the list.

I might see anywhere from 1-3 counts of knock if any on the Accessport, majority of the time it stays at 0.
Good luck with the tunes! You'll definitely enjoy the car more with higher boost, trust me.

Try looking for something else besides BC 280. AMS tested a bunch of cams and the BC's didn't do so well. Here's the thread: http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=343818

Knock count looks good. Ever try playing with EcuFlash (it's free, all you need to do is buy the cable)? There are mods that you can do to the ECU (on top of Accessport).
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Originally Posted by Y2KevSE
Good luck with the tunes! You'll definitely enjoy the car more with higher boost, trust me.

Try looking for something else besides BC 280. AMS tested a bunch of cams and the BC's didn't do so well. Here's the thread: http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=343818

Knock count looks good. Ever try playing with EcuFlash (it's free, all you need to do is buy the cable)? There are mods that you can do to the ECU (on top of Accessport).
I actually have been lurking that thread too, I really like the GSC and the Kelford cams too. I'll def look into the ECUflash, the car is already wired for the AME EMS along with the map sensor so if I mx out the tunning capablities of the AP, thats the next step but since Cobb is local, I can always get it protuned.
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Nice that it's all wired up for the AEM. That too would be my next step since I'm VERY close to maxing the load value on the stock ECU and the Hz value on the stock MAS. You can check out my mods and dynos by clicking on my sig (Evo)... we have similar power mods. The graphs will give you an idea of how much power you might be making at different boost levels. Add 10%-15% for DynoJet numbers.

I noticed you don't have an ignition amplifier. If you don't, you'll have to tighten the gaps on the plugs or the sparks will blow out when you run high boost (25+ psi).

I went with Kelford 272 cams (before AMS posted their results) and they're very comparable to the GSC S2 cams. Be weary of going with more aggressive cams on the stock ECU because drivability will get crappy, however if you use the AEM then there shouldn't be an issue.

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Originally Posted by Y2KevSE
Nice that it's all wired up for the AEM. That too would be my next step since I'm VERY close to maxing the load value on the stock ECU and the Hz value on the stock MAS. You can check out my mods and dynos by clicking on my sig (Evo)... we have similar power mods. The graphs will give you an idea of how much power you might be making at different boost levels. Add 10%-15% for DynoJet numbers.

I noticed you don't have an ignition amplifier. If you don't, you'll have to tighten the gaps on the plugs or the sparks will blow out when you run high boost (25+ psi).

I went with Kelford 272 cams (before AMS posted their results) and they're very comparable to the GSC S2 cams. Be weary of going with more aggressive cams on the stock ECU because drivability will get crappy, however if you use the AEM then there shouldn't be an issue.
I'm at a .24 gap right now and I know there are people with even tighter gap so I will see how well it will hold up after the tune.

I think I will upgrade all the drivetrain this summer and fall even tho they haven't given me any issues yet so I won't be breaking them when I finish all the performance mods.
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