rising rev limits
Good day guys . How can I rise the rev limiter from 6500 to 7500 for my turbo 99 ?
I sow this thing in ebay.com RL-1 Rev Limit Controller for Greddy E-manage Blue The saler sayes that it can rise it but I dont know if it's work on my turbo 99 |
7500? Are you just asking for a blown motor or what?
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Unless you have a built motor with rods, rod bolts and bearings....dont do that. Especially on a turbo you asking for trouble.....BLOW that thing sky high!!!
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You need to add fuel past the factory fuel cut at 6500rpm. You can do this with the e-manage blue. You can find this info on this forum.
Originally Posted by maxam
(Post 8476720)
Good day guys . How can I rise the rev limiter from 6500 to 7500 for my turbo 99 ?
I sow this thing in ebay.com RL-1 Rev Limit Controller for Greddy E-manage Blue The saler sayes that it can rise it but I dont know if it's work on my turbo 99 |
I have e manage blue . But I dont know how to do it with blue . If you post the threads URL you will help me a lot .
Thank you so much . |
I have e manage blue . But I dont know how to do it with blue . If you post the threads URL you will help me a lot .
Thank you so much ., |
Originally Posted by ranmas2004
(Post 8479505)
Unless you have a built motor with rods, rod bolts and bearings....dont do that. Especially on a turbo you asking for trouble.....BLOW that thing sky high!!!
Of course HD valve springs and a 3.5 oil pump would be ideal.
Originally Posted by Quickywd01
(Post 8479740)
You need to add fuel past the factory fuel cut at 6500rpm. You can do this with the e-manage blue. You can find this info on this forum.
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Good luck with the rev limiter rising. I've seen a few dyno charts and the hickup at red line is pretty nasty.
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Originally Posted by Flava_24/7
(Post 8481353)
Nah, the 3.0 can handle it, As long as its tuned properly
Of course HD valve springs and a 3.5 oil pump would be ideal. The Ultimate can do it, but not smoothly. My engine is built up probrley I have rev up oil pump and JWT valve springs from a long time. But Im still searching for a way to rise up the RPM . |
maybe run a jwt turbo ecu, but that would only redline at 7200. I don't really see why'd you'd want to rev a boosted maxima all the way out to 7500 but whatever lol.
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you will only make useful power until 6800rpm on stock 3.0 cams. Even boost cant cover up the cam issues. just stay around 7000-7200rpm.
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raising limiter sometimes means boom
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Originally Posted by Flava_24/7
(Post 8481353)
Nah, the 3.0 can handle it
Though you might have a different outcome with boost.... |
http://www.vqpower.com/v2/articles.php?article_id=26
^^^ Dandy Max's Emanage Ultimate install write-up. It talks about raising rev-limits with modified injector delay maps. hope it helps. |
Originally Posted by Crusher103
(Post 8488137)
you will only make useful power until 6800rpm on stock 3.0 cams. Even boost cant cover up the cam issues. just stay around 7000-7200rpm.
I forgot to say that I have JWT cams also . but my problem is the turbo . I have turbonatics . it spools at 4500 RPM . so my power is limited between 4500 RPM to 6800 as a stock cut of . this is my dyno chart at 4psi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2-0uxU0uVE http://i48.tinypic.com/ac691h.jpg as you can see the HP is still going up until the cut of . so if I have my car tuned to 7300 or 7400 I will have the full advanteges of my turbo because it spools too late .so I will have more power . ;) |
Originally Posted by maxam
(Post 8489861)
I forgot to say that I have JWT cams also . but my problem is the turbo . I have turbonatics . it spools at 4500 RPM . so my power is limited between 4500 RPM to 6800 as a stock cut of .
this is my dyno chart at 4psi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2-0uxU0uVE http://i48.tinypic.com/ac691h.jpg as you can see the HP is still going up until the cut of . so if I have my car tuned to 7300 or 7400 I will have the full advanteges of my turbo because it spools too late .so I will have more power . ;) The VQ30 bottom end is stout, rod bolts do not have to be changed unlike the VQ35. We had somebody just for sh1ts and giggles revving to 8000rpm stock bottom end but i seriously would not recommend that. If all this has already been addressed your best bet for a smooth raised limiter is a JWT ECU. An EU will do it but its not a very fluid way of raising the limiter. Dynos have shown a massive drop off in power right where the stock limiter is than it climbs back up, nobody has been able to solve that problem except switching ECUs. |
Here is my full setup .
ARP studs Z370 head gaskets CP pistons JWT cams and springs . Turbonatics turbo . Rev up oil pump . Emange blue ( not yet installed ) . SAFC II . 370 cc injectors . 550 cc injectors ( comming soon ) . |
Originally Posted by maxam
(Post 8490057)
Here is my full setup .
ARP studs Z370 head gaskets CP pistons JWT cams and springs . Turbonatics turbo . Rev up oil pump . Emange blue ( not yet installed ) . SAFC II . 370 cc injectors . 550 cc injectors ( comming soon ) . I think with this setup I can rise my RPM up to 7500 safely . The last thing I would do is having JWT ECU . Because it will fit in my max . If I have to switch to JWT I have to get US maxima harness . And that is impossible to find it here in the middle east . |
unless something has changed/been updated/been discovered in the last few years, you cannot go beyond the stock rev limit with emanage blue.
if i recall correctly this is because you cannot control pulse width directly with EB, only by percentage up to either 50% or 100% (it's been a long time since I looked into it, but this is what I remember.) At the stock rev limit fuel cut, IPW goes so low that increasing it even by 50% or 100% does not come anywhere close to providing enough fuel to have useful RPM above the stock limit. |
Originally Posted by maxam
(Post 8490057)
Here is my full setup .
ARP studs Z370 head gaskets CP pistons JWT cams and springs . Turbonatics turbo . Rev up oil pump . Emange blue ( not yet installed ) . SAFC II . 370 cc injectors . 550 cc injectors ( comming soon ) .
Originally Posted by maxam
(Post 8490062)
I think with this setup I can rise my RPM up to 7500 safely .
The last thing I would do is having JWT ECU . Because it will fit in my max . If I have to switch to JWT I have to get US maxima harness . And that is impossible to find it here in the middle east . |
Originally Posted by Nealoc187
(Post 8490071)
unless something has changed/been updated/been discovered in the last few years, you cannot go beyond the stock rev limit with emanage blue.
if i recall correctly this is because you cannot control pulse width directly with EB, only by percentage up to either 50% or 100% (it's been a long time since I looked into it, but this is what I remember.) At the stock rev limit fuel cut, IPW goes so low that increasing it even by 50% or 100% does not come anywhere close to providing enough fuel to have useful RPM above the stock limit. |
how do you increase the rev limiter on a 4th gen with the EB? what is the procedure/setting that allows this?
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
(Post 8490076)
how do you increase the rev limiter on a 4th gen with the EB? what is the procedure/setting that allows this?
Edit: found it. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...7&postcount=67 |
ew yeah i don't like what I'm reading there. I wouldn't bother with that I don't think. just get an EU or standalone (especially on a built motor).
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What if I convert my blue to gold ?
Will that good ? I have all the extra harnesses ( injectors ,ignition and map sensor ) . |
Originally Posted by maxam
(Post 8490673)
What if I convert my blue to gold ?
Will that good ? I have all the extra harnesses ( injectors ,ignition and map sensor ) . |
Originally Posted by Crusher103
(Post 8490718)
Its just installing the 1.49 firmware, and seriously no, if you are thinking using an emanage blue/gold to raise the limiter, not a good idea, get an Emanage ultimate, you already spent all that money building the motor dont cheap out on tuning it.
OK thats for 4cylenders engine . how to do it on V6 engine ? I spent more than 7 years, buying and rebuiding so I lost all my money on it . so I cant buy the ultimate . I found a used one in ebay but I lost the piding . |
Originally Posted by maxam
(Post 8490751)
OK thats for 4cylenders engine . how to do it on V6 engine ?
I spent more than 7 years, buying and rebuiding so I lost all my money on it . so I cant buy the ultimate . I found a used one in ebay but I lost the piding . |
damn. I didn't find for 6 cylenders .
I will talk with my mechanic . I think he will find a way to do it . |
is e85 available by where you at? is this a daily? maybe you should just put good gas in it and crank up the boost with the limiter as is. plenty power to be made without that added risk.
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