Re: Help (wheels)
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Re: Help (wheels)
Hello there fellow Z drivers my wife drives a 2002 nissan maxima and i am thinking about buying a set of 19s for her car...now i have a few questions for you guys....first of i am getting a 19x8.5 (+36) volks TE 37 and 19x9.5 (+35) the stock offset is (+45) now can you tell me if this is ok. Thanks
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You want to put the same front and rear with on FWD cars.
Originally Posted by jay23
Hello there fellow Z drivers my wife drives a 2002 nissan maxima and i am thinking about buying a set of 19s for her car...now i have a few questions for you guys....first of i am getting a 19x8.5 (+36) volks TE 37 and 19x9.5 (+35) the stock offset is (+45) now can you tell me if this is ok. Thanks
Originally Posted by McDisneySoft
You want to put the same front and rear with on FWD cars.
What's wrong with putting bigger/wider wheels at the rears? My friend has 225/40/18 in the front and 255/35/18 at the rears. He said it'll give him better handling on the road and I totally believe in him.
~limsandy
Originally Posted by limsandy
What's wrong with putting bigger/wider wheels at the rears? My friend has 225/40/18 in the front and 255/35/18 at the rears. He said it'll give him better handling on the road and I totally believe in him.
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yeah whats wrong with staggering your car. As far as i am concern its not ricey its different...almost all of the import is following that one fitment type and i think its ricey....well when i am done with it you'll see and drool 
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Ricey? WTF? It's ricey if the exterior mod is 
I drove my friend's car once, with 255/35/18 all around and then I drove his car again with 225/40/18 in the front, 255/35/18 at the rears. The handling is much better and you have more control over the wheels. If you don't know what I'm taking about, go try it out yourself....
~limsandy
I drove my friend's car once, with 255/35/18 all around and then I drove his car again with 225/40/18 in the front, 255/35/18 at the rears. The handling is much better and you have more control over the wheels. If you don't know what I'm taking about, go try it out yourself....
~limsandy
Originally Posted by limsandy
Ricey? WTF? It's ricey if the exterior mod is ~limsandy
~limsandy....if you are doing it to look like you have a RWD car with a deep dish rear (like a few 5th gen members have done), that is completely
Originally Posted by asu174
If you're REALLY doing it for handling like slammed95 has done, that's one thing.....
....if you are doing it to look like you have a RWD car with a deep dish rear (like a few 5th gen members have done), that is completely
....if you are doing it to look like you have a RWD car with a deep dish rear (like a few 5th gen members have done), that is completely
Then in fact, you have a completely different taste than me. Because I plan to put exactly wider rims/tires in the rears than the fronts and my next set of wheels will have deep dish in the rear and polished lip. When and if I have installed them on my car, I will take pictures so that you can
all over it. 
~limsandy
slammed95,
your wheels are sick. They don't really look good, but they're light like feather. And it's made by Enkei, so it must be pretty strong, I assume?
edit: Can you post pictures of the wheels on your car?
~limsandy
your wheels are sick. They don't really look good, but they're light like feather. And it's made by Enkei, so it must be pretty strong, I assume?
edit: Can you post pictures of the wheels on your car?
~limsandy
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Staggering on a FWD car unless you're going bigger in front with drag slicks is ridiculous.
If you go bigger in back, you're creating MORE understeer - the main handling problem with fwd besides torque steer.
RWD cars stagger to get more power to the ground and reduce oversteer.
It's rice on fwd because you are sacrificing performance for a "look." At least clear taillights and stickers don't decrease performance.
If you go bigger in back, you're creating MORE understeer - the main handling problem with fwd besides torque steer.
RWD cars stagger to get more power to the ground and reduce oversteer.
It's rice on fwd because you are sacrificing performance for a "look." At least clear taillights and stickers don't decrease performance.
Interesting. But isn't that going to make your car ride like hell? Seems like you take the suspension mods to an extreme to compensate for the wider rear wheels/tires? Any particular reason to use the wider rears?
Originally Posted by slammed95
A staggered setup will create more understeer with a stock setup, or an originally neutral setup.
With a tight rear sway bar, high rate rear springs, stiff dampers, and a solid chassis, oversteer is very possible.
My brakes can also slow my car pretty damn fast, which will transfer a lot of weight to the front, and reduce grip in the rear.
If you think it's rice that somebody carefully studies and sets up their car to maximize performance, then you need to attend some racing events and check out the cars.
With a tight rear sway bar, high rate rear springs, stiff dampers, and a solid chassis, oversteer is very possible.
My brakes can also slow my car pretty damn fast, which will transfer a lot of weight to the front, and reduce grip in the rear.
If you think it's rice that somebody carefully studies and sets up their car to maximize performance, then you need to attend some racing events and check out the cars.
Cool. How did you set up your suspension. I have the ADDCO bar on 235-45-17s. The only way I could get the rear around is to be flying though a corner and maybe slamming on the brakes to unload the rears. But going though a corner steady state or accelerating, it was at best close to neutral(on the understeer side) The addco rear is the thickest you can get for the 3-gen. About 30-32psi on the rear tires.
Originally Posted by slammed95
I just mentioned that set-up as an example of how a FWD car could be made to oversteer. My car isn't set up like that, and it rides pretty darn smooth. The adjustments on my suspension are set to produce light oversteer at the limit when using 235 wide tires all around. With the 265's in the rear, the handling is very neutral at all speeds, with slight understeer at the limit to prevent the rear end from sliding out.
If I feel the front end pushing, then I know I'm going too fast. I hate the way the rear end snaps back or fishtails on a FWD when it starts to oversteer, so I made sure to reduce the chances of that happening.
If I feel the front end pushing, then I know I'm going too fast. I hate the way the rear end snaps back or fishtails on a FWD when it starts to oversteer, so I made sure to reduce the chances of that happening.
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Originally Posted by slammed95
A staggered setup will create more understeer with a stock setup, or an originally neutral setup.
Originally Posted by slammed95
With a tight rear sway bar, high rate rear springs, stiff dampers, and a solid chassis, oversteer is very possible.
My brakes can also slow my car pretty damn fast, which will transfer a lot of weight to the front, and reduce grip in the rear.
My brakes can also slow my car pretty damn fast, which will transfer a lot of weight to the front, and reduce grip in the rear.
Originally Posted by slammed95
If you think it's rice that somebody carefully studies and sets up their car to maximize performance, then you need to attend some racing events and check out the cars.
Rice is decreasing performance for the sake of looks, imho.
Originally Posted by slammed95
I have my front AGX's set at 3, rears at 6. Stillen sway bar set about 2/3 stiff. Front tires are 235/45/17 on 8" wide wheels at 33psi, rears are 265/40/17 on 9" wide wheels at 35psi.
The profile of the front tires is pretty squared, giving a better initial turn in and sharper response. The profile of the rear tires is a little more rounded to produce a more predictable breakaway as the sidewall rolls more.
The profile of the front tires is pretty squared, giving a better initial turn in and sharper response. The profile of the rear tires is a little more rounded to produce a more predictable breakaway as the sidewall rolls more.
I cant believe you know your car to such details. I'll definitely learn more from you and I'll PM you in the future for advice.
~limsandy
Wow, you have the rear shocks way stiff! You sure it doesn't ride harsh? Anyway, how abot setting the agx's down to 4 and going full stiff on the Stillen.
Originally Posted by slammed95
I have my front AGX's set at 3, rears at 6. Stillen sway bar set about 2/3 stiff. Front tires are 235/45/17 on 8" wide wheels at 33psi, rears are 265/40/17 on 9" wide wheels at 35psi.
The profile of the front tires is pretty squared, giving a better initial turn in and sharper response. The profile of the rear tires is a little more rounded to produce a more predictable breakaway as the sidewall rolls more.
The profile of the front tires is pretty squared, giving a better initial turn in and sharper response. The profile of the rear tires is a little more rounded to produce a more predictable breakaway as the sidewall rolls more.
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