Whats up guys, I got a great deal on some nice 18s for my maxima.........I'm runnin stock hub caps now lol...would i need any suspension done to my car? or can i just throw the 18s on without having a problem.....and will it like affect the way i drive? like if i floor it will it be slower or a wierder ride? i'm confused.....

 

well first off it will look like a 4x4 so a suspension is a must, and yes you will feel more sluggish at accel and your mph will be affected by 2mph or so, then again it might affect gas, but it will ride harder depending on your tiring selection

 

So what kind of recomendation for suspension would you recomend....the tires are Kumho tires......

 

I personally think 18s are overkill. Depending on what wheels you get, your MPG will suffer terribly and so will your acceleration. Within the first 300 miles (which is an exaggeratingly generous outlook), you will want those 15s back on. Whatever floats your...Maxima.

 

blah blah blah...it iwll not affect gas mileage that bad, but yes it will slow you down a bit. YOu can throw 18's on there just fine with out any suspension but as said your maxima i going to look like a huge truck.

 

Off the line will be a little more sluggish, your odometer will not be affected as long as your tire size is with in stock replacement diameter specs, 235/40/18 should be correct. Depending on your wheel width and offset will determine if you'll have any rubbing problems

PS you're going to get moved to the tire & wheel forum soon

 

Ok, so it won't affect his gas mileage, yet it will slow him down. It's all making sense now..

 

i said ,it will not effect it that bad...read before you post

 

geez, gas milage is not really affected and acceleration does decrease a bit

but its a beautiful trade-off

the only ones who would think its a bad idea are those running stock wheels

 

hahahahah

 

All right Guys....thanks lol.....I'm going with the stock 00-03 rims.....the 16s inch.....they are so hot....thanks a lot lol for changing my mind.http://www.wheelcollision.com/wccpix/62378.jpg

 

the stock 97-99 16 inches look way better...IMO

 

18' Altima SE-R wheels... those are what I want...

 

Thank you. Where the **** do these crazy misconceptions come from, anyway? MPG's go down, speedo is off? WTF? +1+2+3.......If the 18's are heavier, apples to apples they will be, they will add to unsprung weight. In theory, that will not be beneficial. Wheel is always more dense than tire. But can anyone honestly say "gee, my car seems slower with my 5'10" 133 lb. girlfriend riding in the car. Oh wait, it's ok, her sweet *** is riding on the springs, unlike my 18" heavy *** rims." We're all big boys here, and the Maxima is a big car. It will get over have had 18x8's slapped on it. it's a looks thing, and there's nothing wrong with it. Get over it.

 

i love those

 

Is this Frank Fontaine dude actually a woman with PMS? Or is he going through the change of life, WTF! Always ragging on somebody, lol.

 

i do nto usderstand what he is ragging on, i did not say it won;t effect it at all....i said it will not affects it huge amount. You will notice it, but ti will not be that majorly dramatic(unlike him) these fukcers need to read befroe they start crying

 

18's do look quite amazing with a drop, but if you leave the stock suspension your car will have a lift kit on it.

 

the differences are so minimal it doesn't matter. As far as gas mileage is concerned, i avg about 24 mpg highway with 18's. The speedo is just as accurate as the stock wheels, and the stock 16's are just as heavy as a decent set of 18's

Besides, if you were that worried about the .1 second it might cost you in a 1/4 you'd be running slicks on 13"volks or something like that. The practical applications of the handling benefits far outweigh any "power" loss you might experience

my car is still on stock suspension. I want to drop it eventually, but i'm not going to run out and spend $600 just so it doesn't look like a monster truck. I'm happy with the handling until i save the money

 

Aer yuo lysdexic?

 

what the hell is your problem? acually i am....

 

if you guys don't suggest 18s how do you think 17's would look/handle

 

there is nothing wrong with 18's. I have 17's and i am happy with them....but do you want more go, handling, looks...i think(do not know for sure) that 18 would handle better due to the sidewall of the tire not being so think, it does not allow the tire to flex as much a higher series tire. But you also deal with the weight issue. Remeber for every pound of rotaional mass it is like adding 8 pounds onto your car. you also gotta add loks into it. 18;s look better IMO, btu it is all up to you and what you are looking for.

 

I've got 18" velox rims and wouldn't trade them for anything. Yes the ride is a bit harder but they look freaking AWESOME!!! I could care less about a bit of extra weight and the slight loss from the line. I'm an 18" man!!!

 

Man, recardeeps222 said it best. Just get the damn 18's and stop worrying.

 

Even though my 18's weigh more, the tire grip allows for much better acceleration.

 

1 lb heavier on each rim = 7 lbs of weight added to your car. SO stock 4th gen SE rims weigh about 20 lbs each i believe, and saaaaay u put on 18 inch mille miglia evo 5's (who a lot of maximas have on their cars and considered on the heavy size for 18 inch rims) which weigh 27 lbs a rim...

therefore:
your new 18 inch rim weight - stock rim weight ... 27 - 20 = 7 lbs.
7 lbs extra on each rim would equal 49 lbs extra of dead weight in your (7 x 7)
and so u have 4 wheels...49 x 4 = 196 LBS OF EXTRA WEIGHT in you car at all times by switching to 18 inch rims....

that's like one of my friends riding in my car ... so think about it .... can you feel an acceleration difference when u pick up a friend and drive around ... hopefully not unless you have some fat friggin friends.

so this is my interpretation of the whole extra wheel weight thing. if i am wrong in my math calculations or not understanding this properly let me know. i just dont want anyone being tools and start more flaming on this thread if i am incorrect.

-Brendan

 

I'm not usually one to call people out on things, but dude your math ^^^ makes absolutely no sense. There are 4 wheels on a car, not 7. I thought that maybe you were compensating for tire weight or something like that, but tires on an 18" wheel are lighter than those on the stock wheels.

If each rim is 1 lb heavier, how does that equal 7 lbs.

even if you had 7 extra pounds on each wheel, 7*4 = 28, which is the total added weight for the whole car, i don't know where you came up with 196

I'm sorry man, but none of that makes any sense

 

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no. it does. u just dont understand. maybe it was the way i explained it....

listen:

1 lb heavier over your stock rim weight EQUALS 7 lbs of dead weight in your car...i found the this resoning on the "maxima bible" site HERE the 6th bullet down from the the top says this, i dont know the exact resoning behind it, but it's just what i found...

ok so do u understand that if u had aftermarket rims that weighed 27 lbs PER rim that would equal 28 lbs HEAVIER combined over the 4 wheels, but it's rotating mass, not JUST weight on your car. so each of those lbs would equal 7 lbs of DEAD WEIGHT IN YOUR CAR....soooo 28 x 7 .... equals 196.................................

maybe i am explaining it wrong, like i said this is how i understand rim weights affecting your acceleration...hope that's easier to undestand

-Brendan

 

ok, well i understand where you're coming from if you're basing it on the "bible", however just for the sake of reference, there is actually a lot more to it. The thing that really matters is distance from the center of the wheel. the more mass to the outside, the more rotational inertia. As far as comparing dead weight to rotational inertia, it's apples to oranges. They are two entirely different things, Inertia is its resistance to motion, while an extra passenger adds to the mass of the vehicle, not to that of the engine/tire system. Two entirely different things. It's like saying something has a weight in kilograms. Theres no such thing.

Either way i think we agree that 18's are better

 

zero cool is correct, that is what i was saying earlier....it will effect it to an extend...now it will not make your car slow as hell, but you will notice a differance.

 

Your math is right... I understand exactly what you all are saying..

but my question(s) are:

What does a stock 3rd gen rim weigh, 4th gen, etc???

To all those who have 18's... Noticed anything but minor changes on your car?

I still think I am going to get 18's for my black 3rd gen...

 

well i cant seem to find them on this helpful site about wheel weights HERE but it says the 86-89's are 20 lbs. ... so i figure aroudn there.

-Brendan

 

This turned out to be a very good and informative Thread. Definitely gonna Favorite this one for future reference, even though I'm gettin 19's.

 

Does anyone else feel like they are in gr11 Algebra!?! But really, I have 18's on my max. You wont know till you put them on!
Youll be an Afterskoolz guyz.

 

For you fellows running 18's, did you upgrade your brakes? I saw a warning about wheel/tire plus sizing saying that anything more than a 3% upsize could possibly result in brake failure. The 235/40/18's I'm planning on would increase by 3.5%, so this concerns me.

 

Doc, then get a tire that isnt going to increase it by so much.

 

But I think it may be the whole wheel/tire combo. Maybe not. Several fellas who have 18's have been telling me there is no issue, just slap them on and have fun. I think the rims I'm going with will be fairly lightweight in that they are stock Murano wheels.