to 19" or 20" that is the question.
#1
to 19" or 20" that is the question.
Hey guys,
Right now my max is sporting suspension by Cattman(springs and RSB) Excellent by the way.
My max is sporting a staggered set of wheels. 18 x 8 front and 18 x 9 rear with a 38mm offset. front have 2" lip and the rears have 3" lip. Black centers with TRUE chrome lip (not polished or machined). I have had them for 1.5 months and I want to upgrade to bigger wheels. (so therfore the wheels are for sale, contact me for pics and details)
Do any of you have 19" wheels on the 6th gen, if so where can I see the wheel and tire pkgs. I am considering a set of Nismo 19" forged wheels, but tires are big $$$. I was told that the 245/40/19 is a rare size so therfore expensive. $235 a tire. If i went with a 245/35/19 I would be better of(much cheaper). I want to see pics of the tires on the 6th gen. I am a fan of some side wall, keep a decent ride.
If I went with 20" i would have to go with a set of 245/35/20 any suggestions on the best tire for the $$.
So i guess what i am asking how much smaller is a 245/40/19 over a 245/35/19. I would like to see pics. Same with 20" tire size. 245/35/20 and 255/35/20.
Thanks
Jon
Right now my max is sporting suspension by Cattman(springs and RSB) Excellent by the way.
![lolrun](https://maxima.org/forums/images/smilies/lolrun.gif)
My max is sporting a staggered set of wheels. 18 x 8 front and 18 x 9 rear with a 38mm offset. front have 2" lip and the rears have 3" lip. Black centers with TRUE chrome lip (not polished or machined). I have had them for 1.5 months and I want to upgrade to bigger wheels. (so therfore the wheels are for sale, contact me for pics and details)
Do any of you have 19" wheels on the 6th gen, if so where can I see the wheel and tire pkgs. I am considering a set of Nismo 19" forged wheels, but tires are big $$$. I was told that the 245/40/19 is a rare size so therfore expensive. $235 a tire. If i went with a 245/35/19 I would be better of(much cheaper). I want to see pics of the tires on the 6th gen. I am a fan of some side wall, keep a decent ride.
If I went with 20" i would have to go with a set of 245/35/20 any suggestions on the best tire for the $$.
So i guess what i am asking how much smaller is a 245/40/19 over a 245/35/19. I would like to see pics. Same with 20" tire size. 245/35/20 and 255/35/20.
Thanks
Jon
#3
Originally Posted by VQMAX05
Hey guys,
So i guess what i am asking how much smaller is a 245/40/19 over a 245/35/19. I would like to see pics. Same with 20" tire size. 245/35/20 and 255/35/20.
Thanks
Jon
So i guess what i am asking how much smaller is a 245/40/19 over a 245/35/19. I would like to see pics. Same with 20" tire size. 245/35/20 and 255/35/20.
Thanks
Jon
2. 10mm difference in tire width. (245-35 vs. 255-35)
Ideal tire size on a 20" x 8.5" rim for a 6th gen : 245-35-20
www.edgeracing.com offers 245-35-20 Toyo Proxes 4 for $206.
#4
off topic, I would pm you but I'm not allowed to. Do you have pics of your car on those springs? I'm thinking of getting them, but I want to see how it looks like on the car. Your cardomain site has a pic of them with eibachs.
#6
Jon, I had 255/40/19 before I got my 20's. they fit perfect. I actually sold them to a 5.5 gen and has slight rubbing issues. 6th gen they work fine. Alot of pics on my cardomain. (After the pics of 20's) I havent updated it in awhile. Mike
BTW, check PM!
BTW, check PM!
#8
aite KC two things......
1) i'm a new 6th gen. owner. i want to put 20's on my ride, your saying that if i put them, i won't have to make any other modifications? did you find that when you put 20's on yours, there was a decrease in performance?
2) YOUR RIDE IS F$#!% amazing
1) i'm a new 6th gen. owner. i want to put 20's on my ride, your saying that if i put them, i won't have to make any other modifications? did you find that when you put 20's on yours, there was a decrease in performance?
2) YOUR RIDE IS F$#!% amazing
#9
The "decrease in performance" is subjective as to what you consider a "decrease." Your stopping power with the 20s will definitely be decreased because there's more rotational mass to stop and your ride quality will also be affected because of shorter sidewalls not to absorb much of the road abnormalities. However, upgrading your brake system will help with that and upgrading your suspension. Just don't expect to have the same ride quality as you did with stock when you change suspensions or have bigger wheels.
#10
wow Nismon00b, you really gave me a lot to think about
stopping power decrease??
that sounds kinda dangerous. i don't wanna have to rear end someone else's car if my brakes are not efficient.
when you say road abnormalities you mean things like speedbumps and potholes right?
if i were to change my suspension and brakes, do you think i'd get something similar to the ride quality i'd have with stock?
i was hoping to change the appearance of the car a little bit thinking it would not do anything drastic to the performance. in your and everyone else's opinion, is it worth it?
stopping power decrease??
that sounds kinda dangerous. i don't wanna have to rear end someone else's car if my brakes are not efficient.
when you say road abnormalities you mean things like speedbumps and potholes right?
if i were to change my suspension and brakes, do you think i'd get something similar to the ride quality i'd have with stock?
i was hoping to change the appearance of the car a little bit thinking it would not do anything drastic to the performance. in your and everyone else's opinion, is it worth it?
#11
By decrease in stopping power, I mean that it will take you longer to stop and will put more strain on your brake system to try and stop heavy 20" wheels. You will have to calculate and pay attention more to your braking distances.
Yes, I do mean speed bumps, potholes, among other things. With your 20s and with NY roads, you will have to watch out and avoid potholes or otherwise you will have a nasty case of bent wheels and bulges on your tires.
One thing to understand is that you can get CLOSE to stock, but it will never be similar in ride comfort when changing suspension.
You can change the overall appearance of the vehicle, just be prepared to sacrifice/compromise some of the comforts of stock to get to that desired goal (dropped, 20s..etc..)
Yes, I do mean speed bumps, potholes, among other things. With your 20s and with NY roads, you will have to watch out and avoid potholes or otherwise you will have a nasty case of bent wheels and bulges on your tires.
One thing to understand is that you can get CLOSE to stock, but it will never be similar in ride comfort when changing suspension.
You can change the overall appearance of the vehicle, just be prepared to sacrifice/compromise some of the comforts of stock to get to that desired goal (dropped, 20s..etc..)
#12
i guess my sacrifice is that i was willing to put money into it to make it the way i like but not at the expense of drastically decreasing the way the car performs.
your obviously learned about this subject while im not
your input is appreciated but let me ask you....have you had first hand experience when doing this to your maxima? do you still have it now or have you switched back to stock? do you feel it's worth it to change rims of a 6th get. because right now i'm on 17's. what can i maximize my maxima's tires to before i have to start altering suspension, brakes etc?
your obviously learned about this subject while im not
your input is appreciated but let me ask you....have you had first hand experience when doing this to your maxima? do you still have it now or have you switched back to stock? do you feel it's worth it to change rims of a 6th get. because right now i'm on 17's. what can i maximize my maxima's tires to before i have to start altering suspension, brakes etc?
#13
My first-hand experience on dropped vehicles is on a Honda Accord. A 2" drop and big wheels equaled to a jarring ride every day.
My maxima is not dropped. It's currently on its stock SE suspension with an RSB and FSTB. I'm concentrating more on the handling/power arena rather than the aesthetic appeal. I'm not in any hurry of modifying my suspension since I don't want to sacrifice ride quality nor do I want to spend the money...yet.
IMHO It's worth changing whatever you want in your car as long as it pleases you and you are willing to live with the results. You can go with 20s right now if you wanted to. The one thing you'll notice is the wheel gap when you switch to bigger wheels. To some, the wheelgap is tolerable and others .. it's not. YOu don't necessarily need to upgrade immediately with your brakes, but somewhere down the road, you will notice the added strain due to your heavy wheels. Switch to slotted/x-drilled rotors, performance brake pads, SS brake lines..so on and so on.
You have to weigh the pro/con of each modification you make and read a lot of the stickies and posts on this forum and you'll get ideas on what's good and what's not.
My maxima is not dropped. It's currently on its stock SE suspension with an RSB and FSTB. I'm concentrating more on the handling/power arena rather than the aesthetic appeal. I'm not in any hurry of modifying my suspension since I don't want to sacrifice ride quality nor do I want to spend the money...yet.
IMHO It's worth changing whatever you want in your car as long as it pleases you and you are willing to live with the results. You can go with 20s right now if you wanted to. The one thing you'll notice is the wheel gap when you switch to bigger wheels. To some, the wheelgap is tolerable and others .. it's not. YOu don't necessarily need to upgrade immediately with your brakes, but somewhere down the road, you will notice the added strain due to your heavy wheels. Switch to slotted/x-drilled rotors, performance brake pads, SS brake lines..so on and so on.
You have to weigh the pro/con of each modification you make and read a lot of the stickies and posts on this forum and you'll get ideas on what's good and what's not.
#14
thanks man, i'll take that into consideration
but here's a thought. if i don't go with 20"
let's say i go with 17 or 18, i won't have to do any of that stuff right
cause se come stock 18, sl comes 17
17s are what i have right now. maybe i'll just find some different 18" wheels and keep the stock tires
does taht work out
but here's a thought. if i don't go with 20"
let's say i go with 17 or 18, i won't have to do any of that stuff right
cause se come stock 18, sl comes 17
17s are what i have right now. maybe i'll just find some different 18" wheels and keep the stock tires
does taht work out
#15
17 or 18, no I would think you don't have to do any drastic suspension mods. Consider getting an FSTB and an RSB to help with your current suspension. Also consider buying lightweight wheels.
If you do plan on upsizing to 18, make sure you get the correct offsets, wheel width, and tire size
If you do plan on upsizing to 18, make sure you get the correct offsets, wheel width, and tire size
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#17
Originally Posted by mzx380
cool, i'll do some shopping so i can have it by late spring or early summer
the question i have now is...........
what tire brands are good?
the question i have now is...........
what tire brands are good?
Your tire of choice depends on how much you want to spend.
#18
Originally Posted by NisMoN00B
Toyo, Kumho, Falken, Michelin, Pirelli.
Your tire of choice depends on how much you want to spend.
Your tire of choice depends on how much you want to spend.
#19
Originally Posted by mzx380
well, i would like to get some high performance tires, but i figure my budget for that is no more than $700 for the whole set. do you think that's reasonable and that i can find some good tires for that price? if so, where?
www.tirerack.com
www.tires.com
Pick & Choose
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#21
allright nismo
i've decided on 20's. i like the way they look and will spend the money in order to get the ride as close to stock as possible
however, im in a bind and can't decide between black or chrome
what is it you think i can do and where is a good place to buy rims?
i've decided on 20's. i like the way they look and will spend the money in order to get the ride as close to stock as possible
however, im in a bind and can't decide between black or chrome
what is it you think i can do and where is a good place to buy rims?
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#22
Originally Posted by mzx380
allright nismo
i've decided on 20's. i like the way they look and will spend the money in order to get the ride as close to stock as possible
however, im in a bind and can't decide between black or chrome
i've decided on 20's. i like the way they look and will spend the money in order to get the ride as close to stock as possible
however, im in a bind and can't decide between black or chrome
Originally Posted by mzx380
what is it you think i can do and where is a good place to buy rims?
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#28
Originally Posted by pitchedup
I would go with 19s. Maybe 19x9s in the front and 19x10s in the back with a low offset to get some good fitment.
okay
do you know anyone that might have pictures of what 19's would look like on a 6th gen max?
#29
Originally Posted by pitchedup
I would go with 19s. Maybe 19x9s in the front and 19x10s in the back with a low offset to get some good fitment.
![bustedrun](https://maxima.org/forums/images/smilies/bustedrun.gif)
Some .org'ers have a staggered setup, so you might want to consult them about the proper offsets to get it right.
#30
Originally Posted by NisMoN00B
Staggered wheel setup, although it LOOKS nice, it doesn't benefit you. Tire rotation is practically non-existent, more understeer(?), and it's a FWD car, all a staggered setup is for looks. I just think that a staggered setup looks better on a RWD than a FWD. Then again, if you're not overly concerned about the costs with the setup, by all means go ahead. Just being practical, personally, I'd go with 20s and a drop. Who needs all that rear wheel lip when you can get some "blingage" chromes.
Some .org'ers have a staggered setup, so you might want to consult them about the proper offsets to get it right.
![bustedrun](https://maxima.org/forums/images/smilies/bustedrun.gif)
Some .org'ers have a staggered setup, so you might want to consult them about the proper offsets to get it right.
#31
In some cases it is, in some it isn't. It all depends on the manufacturer. In most wheels, the chromed wheel is always heavier than its other counterparts.
For Example, an ASA AR1 19x8.5 wheel is 26lbs silver powdercoated, in chrome it's 26.9lbs.
For Example, an ASA AR1 19x8.5 wheel is 26lbs silver powdercoated, in chrome it's 26.9lbs.
#33
Manufacturers that offer black w/chrome or polished lip : Kyowa Racing, TSW, Dub, Sport Max, Niche, Foose, Savini...etc. etc.
Go to www.bigwheels.net and search for the wheels that you want.
Go to www.bigwheels.net and search for the wheels that you want.
#34
damn, why the heck are there so many rims with machine lip and now they're saying polished lip too??
wuts the difference?
is there a drastic difference between the weights of those and chrome?
feel free to hit me over the head nismo
wuts the difference?
is there a drastic difference between the weights of those and chrome?
feel free to hit me over the head nismo
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#37
this is the set i am lookng at, they are the Zenetti FLOW Black..
![](http://www.customwheelsdirect.com/images/wheels/ZENETTI/FlowB.jpg)
I posted in another thread that i was going to get a set of 18" 's Black, just to replace my stock ones, but i have decided that it is better that i just buy these, and in the long run save some $$$.. I need to find the cheapest place to purchase these.. I am thinking it might be cheaper if i purchase the tires seperate from the rims though.. I have a place here where i live that is pretty cheap with mounting them and balancing.. what do you guys think?
thanks.............
![](http://www.customwheelsdirect.com/images/wheels/ZENETTI/FlowB.jpg)
I posted in another thread that i was going to get a set of 18" 's Black, just to replace my stock ones, but i have decided that it is better that i just buy these, and in the long run save some $$$.. I need to find the cheapest place to purchase these.. I am thinking it might be cheaper if i purchase the tires seperate from the rims though.. I have a place here where i live that is pretty cheap with mounting them and balancing.. what do you guys think?
thanks.............
#38
most places where you buy them will mount them on your vehicle for free so don't take that into consideration. if they are not willing to do that, don't even consider buying it from them
i'm also lookin into buying new wheels
you're better off buying new tires and wheels together as it will save you more money
if you want anymore info, keep posting it in this thread
good luck
i'm also lookin into buying new wheels
you're better off buying new tires and wheels together as it will save you more money
if you want anymore info, keep posting it in this thread
good luck