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Deckdout2 Jan 27, 2006 12:38 PM

Proxes 4's are my issues. You running 19's? Step inside.....
 
I've come to the conclusion that the reason why I bent my wheels were that the Proxes 4's played a significant part. I've got 1 Nitto NT 555 and 3 Proxes 4's on my Miglia's and noticed that the sidewall of the Proxes look too soft for a wheel this size. The sidewall seems to roll tucked to the ground, while the NT 555's are at perfect stance. Could this be the reason my rims didn't hold up to my driving and the harsh roads? Anyone with 19's please chime in, and let me know what type of tires you are riding on, size would be good also. I'm considering keeping my Privat's and giving them another chance with different tires. What do you guys think?

btw, currently running 245/35/19 w/38 psi

This can be moved to Tire section, but I wanted this thread to get a little more visibility first.

upstatemax Jan 27, 2006 12:51 PM

If you change to 235/40/19's you will gain a bit more sidewall and it really does not affect your speedo.

But yes, I would think soft sidewalls are killing your rims.

Edit: you might have a hell of time finding that size I guess, the only one I found on tirerack was $260 Potenza RE050A's.

s_hinerman Jan 27, 2006 12:56 PM

i have been running 19 evo5s with proxes 4 245/35/19 and have had no real issue except my brain of a wife hitting a curb.

Battle Max Jan 27, 2006 12:57 PM

Right now im running Falken 451's in a 245/35 19 it has a rim protection rib so the over all sidewall is pretty sturdy.

Why dont you buy the other 3 Nittos if you are happy with them?

Deckdout2 Jan 27, 2006 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by upstatemax
If you change to 235/40/19's you will gain a bit more sidewall and it really does not affect your speedo.

But yes, I would think soft sidewalls are killing your rims.

Edit: you might have a hell of time finding that size I guess, the only one I found on tirerack was $260 Potenza RE050A's.

DAMN! I'm already paying 180 a tire for these 4's. I'm probably going to end up switching to the NT555s and lord knows how much those are going to be. I wonder if the 40 series will fit without rubbing. I just dropped to s-techs Wednesday night, and it's pretty low. My offset is 40 so I might be alright.

Deckdout2 Jan 27, 2006 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by s_hinerman
i have been running 19 evo5s with proxes 4 245/35/19 and have had no real issue except my brain of a wife hitting a curb.

I can even see in your sig how the contact part is tucked in a little.

Deckdout2 Jan 27, 2006 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by Battle Max
Right now im running Falken 451's in a 245/35 19 it has a rim protection rib so the over all sidewall is pretty sturdy.

Why dont you buy the other 3 Nittos if you are happy with them?

I probably will, I've never had Nittos but have heard rave reviews on them. I've only had this one used Nitto for about a week.

irish44j Jan 27, 2006 01:20 PM

Ever thought that maybe it's the fact that you have 19's that caused the problem? Hell, I bent one of my Honda's 16's with 205/55/16 Pilot A/S on them, and those have a very stiff sidewall.

Lower sidewall always runs the risk of rim damage, no matter what tire.

frankd121 Jan 27, 2006 01:27 PM

Also the fact that you have to run fairly high pressures with the low profile sidewall compounds the problem. There's less room for absorbing the energy impacted onto the tire when you hit a bump.

soundmike Jan 27, 2006 01:29 PM

Wait, are you still on the Miglia's? If so, that's your problem - not the tires. Mille's are known to be made of very soft metal.

Deckdout2 Jan 27, 2006 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by irish44j
Ever thought that maybe it's the fact that you have 19's that caused the problem? Hell, I bent one of my Honda's 16's with 205/55/16 Pilot A/S on them, and those have a very stiff sidewall.

Lower sidewall always runs the risk of rim damage, no matter what tire.

That's a definate, but I'm just trying to give more protection to the wheels and take the brunt of impacts off of them some. I'd really rather keep them, and if I'm going to do that, I might as well trying to get some stiffer rubber.

Deckdout2 Jan 27, 2006 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by frankd121
Also the fact that you have to run fairly high pressures with the low profile sidewall compounds the problem. There's less room for absorbing the energy impacted onto the tire when you hit a bump.

I stay around 36 - 38 and check them regularly.

Deckdout2 Jan 27, 2006 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by soundmike
Wait, are you still on the Miglia's? If so, that's your problem - not the tires. Mille's are known to be made of very soft metal.

No, no issues with the Millie's, just hate giving up these Privats. I'm going to probably let the Millies go.

Battle Max Jan 27, 2006 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Deckdout2
I stay around 36 - 38 and check them regularly.

Are the toyo's re enforced tires? if they are 38psi is the perfect psi to run.

Deckdout2 Jan 27, 2006 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Battle Max
Are the toyo's re enforced tires? if they are 38psi is the perfect psi to run.

I'm not sure to be honest with you. What's that do for it? Is it somewhat like the RunFlat material used?

00SEMAX19 Jan 27, 2006 04:19 PM

The reinforced tires have stronger sidewalls, I've been running the nitto 555's for a while now with no problems. I've hit potholes very hard without damage to the tire or wheel. The 555's are a reinforced tire also. The only time I have damaged my wheels or tires was because of wrecking my car. When I totaled my 00 max, I bent 2 of my rims and popped 1 tire, but that was plowing over a curb sideways at about 60mph. The 555's should run you about 180.00-200.00 a tire.

Deckdout2 Jan 27, 2006 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by 00SEMAX19
The reinforced tires have stronger sidewalls, I've been running the nitto 555's for a while now with no problems. I've hit potholes very hard without damage to the tire or wheel. The 555's are a reinforced tire also. The only time I have damaged my wheels or tires was because of wrecking my car. When I totaled my 00 max, I bent 2 of my rims and popped 1 tire, but that was plowing over a curb sideways at about 60mph. The 555's should run you about 180.00-200.00 a tire.

Thanks man, that secures my train of thought. I had a feeling that the sidewalls of the 555's heldup pretty good. I'm glad to hear you input, and will be making that purchase. Price is about the same so I don't feel too bad.

Anyone want some almost new Proxes 4's? :chuckle:

edit: on your cardomain it says you're running 235/45/19. is this correct? also do you have any rubbing issues?

irish44j Jan 27, 2006 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by Deckdout2
Thanks man, that secures my train of thought. I had a feeling that the sidewalls of the 555's heldup pretty good. I'm glad to hear you input, and will be making that purchase. Price is about the same so I don't feel too bad.

Anyone want some almost new Proxes 4's? :chuckle:

edit: on your cardomain it says you're running 235/45/19. is this correct? also do you have any rubbing issues?

if they were 18s.....

Deckdout2 Jan 27, 2006 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by irish44j
if they were 18s.....

i'm sure they'll fit......:hide:

Onemax Jan 28, 2006 09:35 AM

I'm on 245/35/19 proxes 4 and have never had a problem with them. Sidewall looks pretty sturdy to me compared to my friends VW Corrado who has 40 series Dunlop's. At times it looks like his tires are 30 series because of the soft sidewalls.

00SEMAX19 Jan 28, 2006 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by Deckdout2
Thanks man, that secures my train of thought. I had a feeling that the sidewalls of the 555's heldup pretty good. I'm glad to hear you input, and will be making that purchase. Price is about the same so I don't feel too bad.

Anyone want some almost new Proxes 4's? :chuckle:

edit: on your cardomain it says you're running 235/45/19. is this correct? also do you have any rubbing issues?

Oops! I'll have to fix that, No, I'm running 2353519. No rubbing issues at all

eyecon7 Jan 28, 2006 12:31 PM

im running Evo 5 on pirelli's on s-techs

Deckdout2 Jan 28, 2006 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by 00SEMAX19
Oops! I'll have to fix that, No, I'm running 2353519. No rubbing issues at all

Thanks for clearing that up.

Deckdout2 Jan 28, 2006 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by Onemax
I'm on 245/35/19 proxes 4 and have never had a problem with them. Sidewall looks pretty sturdy to me compared to my friends VW Corrado who has 40 series Dunlop's. At times it looks like his tires are 30 series because of the soft sidewalls.

How are the roads in Germany?

Onemax Jan 29, 2006 05:47 AM

Not to bad. Never been to NC so can't really compare.
Germany still has coblestone roads in parts, but I'm creeping over them.
At high speeds on the autobahn, pavements really smooth.
Innercity is not as bad as say NY, but I've taken some pretty good hits
from some bumps.

KCMC582 Jan 29, 2006 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by soundmike
Wait, are you still on the Miglia's? If so, that's your problem - not the tires. Mille's are known to be made of very soft metal.

i dunno if this is true or not, i had 18" EV-S's 18 or so months ago, and i slammed into some potholes, and those wheels held strong, tires too. I was running Kumho Ectsa Supras, and those wheels really took a beating and never showed a sign of a bend or bubbled tire.

After about 6 months of my 19" Hiros on RE750s, id say they are good tires too. Rim gaurd and also have really wacked some potholes and everything is okay. Im starting to believe its more of how you hit the pothole, not so much actually hitting it, but i could be wrong. A lot of times i see a pothole but im going too fast or i have nowhere to go, so i just hold the wheel tight and hit it dead on. I believe that its when we swerve and just clip the hole, or catch it when our wheel is at an angle, that it causes damage.

.02

Deckdout2 Jan 29, 2006 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by KCMC582
i dunno if this is true or not, i had 18" EV-S's 18 or so months ago, and i slammed into some potholes, and those wheels held strong, tires too. I was running Kumho Ectsa Supras, and those wheels really took a beating and never showed a sign of a bend or bubbled tire.

After about 6 months of my 19" Hiros on RE750s, id say they are good tires too. Rim gaurd and also have really wacked some potholes and everything is okay. Im starting to believe its more of how you hit the pothole, not so much actually hitting it, but i could be wrong. A lot of times i see a pothole but im going too fast or i have nowhere to go, so i just hold the wheel tight and hit it dead on. I believe that its when we swerve and just clip the hole, or catch it when our wheel is at an angle, that it causes damage.

.02

That's a good point KC, my damages have been caught hitting things at a bad angle, and I guess it tags it just right.

ChinoSanXXL Jan 29, 2006 10:33 PM

215/35 on Maya DTM's
 
I have an 03 Maxima SE running 19x8.5" Maya/Trafficstar Wheels (DAZZ Imports them from http://www.river-side.co.jp/ in Japan. I am running 215/35 Toyo Proxes 4's. My car is fitted with Cattman/Progress Coilovers. My car is extremely low. I have had to have each rim repaired at least once. The Proxes 4 has the rim protector feature....but when tire sidewall is not more than 1.25 - 1.50 high.....the side wall has to be very stiff. BTW...I usually run tires at about 40 -42 psi.....

Onemax Jan 30, 2006 03:06 AM


Originally Posted by ChinoSanXXL
I have an 03 Maxima SE running 19x8.5" Maya/Trafficstar Wheels (DAZZ Imports them from http://www.river-side.co.jp/ in Japan. I am running 215/35 Toyo Proxes 4's. My car is fitted with Cattman/Progress Coilovers. My car is extremely low. I have had to have each rim repaired at least once. The Proxes 4 has the rim protector feature....but when tire sidewall is not more than 1.25 - 1.50 high.....the side wall has to be very stiff. BTW...I usually run tires at about 40 -42 psi.....

I love those wheels. Got any pics with the on the max?

chris'smax Jan 30, 2006 05:06 AM

Just get some 18's. My car rides so much better w/ the meatier tires. The 19's look better, but not good enough for me to dred driving my car somewhere

mysticalpun Feb 17, 2006 09:15 PM

I have a 2000 Max and I run a 235/35 19 Nitto555 on my Max and I havent run into any problems, and I run between 38-40 psi.

NiZMo1o1 Feb 17, 2006 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by mysticalpun
I have a 2000 Max and I run a 235/35 19 Nitto555 on my Max and I havent run into any problems, and I run between 38-40 psi.


thanks Ive been running on Falken Torques and 245-35-19s

Few months ago they was doing road work on my daily route to and from work and I couldnt advoid this one night where the uneven paved the road and bent the front rim.

Ive been debating to go with a 235 series tire and Nitto's .
The tires I had were Nakyeema(sp?) anyways these tires are made from korea and they are garbage. the sidewalls on the outter start cracking ..anyways I called around looking for Nittos 555 in 235-35-19s..

Anyone has a good hook up on the internet for these tires?

rkyat Feb 17, 2006 11:17 PM

hmm maybe thats why my last set of rims got bent 3 times. i was running 235/35/19 toyo Proxes 4's.... and im still running em. I guess ill just leave em on for now. Can't afford another set of 19" tires.

00SEMAX19 Feb 18, 2006 02:20 AM

I can probly do the 555's for about 180.00 plus shipping. I'll have to check my cost on tuesday. I can sell any tire 10% above cost, but sometimes internet priceing is hard to beat.

Deckdout2 Feb 18, 2006 09:24 AM

Thanks for the confirmation guys. Nitto's looks like they are the way to go for me. I'm usually a spirited driver anyways, so I'm hoping the 555s are able to keep up with my pace. SR20DEN, sloppymax, blu, all praise these tires as being a good combo to go with. I might as well try them out, I have nothing to lose.

boner27 Feb 26, 2006 01:23 AM

nitto 555'S yep.

sloppymax Feb 26, 2006 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by boner27
nitto 555'S yep.

your knowlege is nothing short of astonishing.

ChinoSanXXL Feb 8, 2009 03:09 AM


Originally Posted by Onemax (Post 3874232)
I love those wheels. Got any pics with the on the max?

I do not have any pics. I have since traded that car in for a 2009 Maxima SV. I plan to fit this car with VIP Modular VR-08's. 8.5" front, 9.5" rear. Both with extreme offsets. Full VIP style. I will post pics when complete.

choiiiiiiiiiii Feb 8, 2009 12:18 PM

have you been living in a cave and just realized that he asked you this question? you're three years late in answering his question.

ChinoSanXXL Feb 8, 2009 07:34 PM

Something like that. I really don't login to the Forums that much. In fact, I forgot I ever even left the original post. LoL. I'll try to come out of hibernation on a more frequent basis.


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