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Old May 2, 2008 | 11:30 PM
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Staggered Offset To Little On My Coilovers?

I'm debating to either go with 18x8.5 front 18x9.5 rear Or 19x8.5 front 19x9.5 rear on my cattman coilovers. I was going to go with a +40 on the rear but I'm afraid it will stick out to much for me to tuck. Being that I have a 4th gen, would this be ok or would I need a +42? These are the wheels I'm going with http://www.hubcap-tire-wheel.com/ima...cing-r281b.jpg
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i would love to see the answer for this cause im thinking about 19X8.5 fronts and 19X9.5 rear 3.25" lip +35 offset on my 5th gen.......... but to answer your question theres a guy running 18X9.5 all around on his 4th gen either +35 or +38 offset, so yeah it should fit, i had 20X8.5 +35 on my 4th gen lowered on eibachs and it was fine
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hes running it but they will not tuck. i don't think a 9.5 40 will either, and 2mm isn't gonna help.

if you want to tuck i would go for something in an 8.5/9 low/mid 30s offset.

better than all that would be slammed and flush.18s arent that big in relation to 4g wheel wells. it takes a lot to tuck 18s. a 9.5 35mm with a rolled lip should work well.
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hes running it but they will not tuck. i don't think a 9.5 40 will either, and 2mm isn't gonna help.

if you want to tuck i would go for something in an 8.5/9 low/mid 30s offset.

better than all that would be slammed and flush.18s arent that big in relation to 4g wheel wells. it takes a lot to tuck 18s. a 9.5 35mm with a rolled lip should work well.
I think I may go with 19's.You don't think a +42 would do? The Higher the offset the flusher the wheel would sit right?
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no... low offset pushes the wheel out.

a 9.5 +42mm should be just short of flush, but probably not enough to tuck.
Old May 3, 2008 | 10:11 AM
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the rear would be flush but i dont think you could tuck, unless you roll the fenders as stated cause i may be in the same predicament
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Originally Posted by BLACKonBLACK98
no... low offset pushes the wheel out.

a 9.5 +42mm should be just short of flush, but probably not enough to tuck.
Yea thats what I meant, meaning the higher the offset the more the wheel sits in the wheel well. What about 44mm or a 45mm? What would be just right to tuck?
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
the rear would be flush but i dont think you could tuck, unless you roll the fenders as stated cause i may be in the same predicament
Yeah I think I'm going to roll the fenders. That should help significantly
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you might make it with a +45. i am waiting on my 9.5 +45 to show up but i have fender mods (rolled, raidused, and soon to be smoothed out which will narrow it a little) and will add a small spacer to be flush (if needed).
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As soon as you get those you gotta post pics man
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i post pics of everything in my build thread, although i doubt they will be what you are looking for. its not a mount and drive situation.
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I'm running 9.5's with +40 offset, you will need to pull the fenders slightly, and a nice roll to the fenderwells.

And stretched tires are going to be a must in this situation, unless you want to do a LOT of fender work.

It's just about flush.



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You should be fine with +40 and rolled fenders to tuck...maybe a little higher to be safe...I am dead flush with the fender with +35...
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judging by the pics i from lous i would think 45 would be needed to tuck. remeber we're talking mm here.
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prolly gonna need more than that. looks like the wheel is sticking out about 5-8mm in that shot. to be able to clear without really working the fenders, you'll need a +50 or so at that width.. and good luck finding that.

And make sure the required offset is the same for both sides. the scott-russel linkage on 4/5 gens is better than a panhard bar, but you still get some side-side misalignment as the car gets lower. that means you may have to wind up with a +40 on one side of the car and a +50 on the other if you're going really low. (so you'd buy a pair of +50 wheels and use a spacer on the side that's tucking more.
even with my 3 gen with IRS, I've run into that. don't' know exactly, but I run a 17x8+22 on one side and a 17x8+27 on the other.

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Old May 3, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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prolly gonna need more than that. looks like the wheel is sticking out about 5-8mm in that shot. to be able to clear without really working the fenders, you'll need a +50 or so at that width.. and good luck finding that.

And make sure the required offset is the same for both sides. the scott-russel linkage on 4/5 gens is better than a panhard bar, but you still get some side-side misalignment as the car gets lower. that means you may have to wind up with a +40 on one side of the car and a +50 on the other if you're going really low. (so you'd buy a pair of +50 wheels and use a spacer on the side that's tucking more.
even with my 3 gen with IRS, I've run into that. don't' know exactly, but I run a 17x8+22 on one side and a 17x8+27 on the other.
Please bear in mind the angle of the shot, it's almost a perfect flush.

I would go +45 to +48 just to be safe.
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prolly gonna need more than that. looks like the wheel is sticking out about 5-8mm in that shot. to be able to clear without really working the fenders, you'll need a +50 or so at that width.. and good luck finding that.

And make sure the required offset is the same for both sides. the scott-russel linkage on 4/5 gens is better than a panhard bar, but you still get some side-side misalignment as the car gets lower. that means you may have to wind up with a +40 on one side of the car and a +50 on the other if you're going really low. (so you'd buy a pair of +50 wheels and use a spacer on the side that's tucking more.
even with my 3 gen with IRS, I've run into that. don't' know exactly, but I run a 17x8+22 on one side and a 17x8+27 on the other.
Very good point Matt!!!

Mine is definitely misaligned, but its not very severe at only a couple mm...only dropped 1.5 inches though...

9.5 +50 would be very hard to find indeed...only a few cars come to mind with offsets like those...

If you have the tools/knowledge to do it, your best bet would be to get 9.5 +40-45 and do a roll and pull...
Old May 3, 2008 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Fast1one
Very good point Matt!!!

Mine is definitely misaligned, but its not very severe at only a couple mm...only dropped 1.5 inches though...

9.5 +50 would be very hard to find indeed...only a few cars come to mind with offsets like those...

If you have the tools/knowledge to do it, your best bet would be to get 9.5 +40-45 and do a roll and pull...
Speaking of rolling and pulling...

I will be posting a walkthrough (tutorial) on mine within the month (when I get off my butt and do it!). I will be doing it on a 20" wheel, though. The process/width/offset should be the same, however.
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Originally Posted by Fast1one
Very good point Matt!!!

Mine is definitely misaligned, but its not very severe at only a couple mm...only dropped 1.5 inches though...

9.5 +50 would be very hard to find indeed...only a few cars come to mind with offsets like those...

If you have the tools/knowledge to do it, your best bet would be to get 9.5 +40-45 and do a roll and pull...
How would a +45mm 19x9.5 rear be affected with a BBK? Would there be any issues of clearance?
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i post pics of everything in my build thread, although i doubt they will be what you are looking for. its not a mount and drive situation.
Whats the link to your build thread?
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easiest way is to check out my cardomain page (linked in sig).
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Originally Posted by PharoNDmist
How would a +45mm 19x9.5 rear be affected with a BBK? Would there be any issues of clearance?
You want to add a BBK for the rear? You really don't need it for your average weekend car...

In any case, brake clearence is mostly dependent on spoke design, NOT offset...

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Speaking of rolling and pulling...

I will be posting a walkthrough (tutorial) on mine within the month (when I get off my butt and do it!). I will be doing it on a 20" wheel, though. The process/width/offset should be the same, however.
Sweet! Should be very beneficial...especially since most people here on the org are so afraid of the idea...
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...especially since most people here on the org are so afraid of the idea...
whos scared? i laugh at roll and pulls...
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Originally Posted by Fast1one
Sweet! Should be very beneficial...especially since most people here on the org are so afraid of the idea...
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Originally Posted by BLACKonBLACK98
whos scared? i laugh at roll and pulls...
Originally Posted by Fr33way™
Notice I said MOST

Seriously though...most org members are too ***** **** to fit the car on the wheels rather than the wheels on the car With the exception of a few members...
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So is it safe to say 19x9.5 rear with a +45mm offset would be good to go with. I don't mind rolling or pulling my fenders either for lower offset if I need to.
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i'm really wondering if you will be low enough to tuck or should just go for a nice flush fitment. for a 4g to tuck 19s you have to be very low.
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19x8.5 / 19x9.5 40mm offset all the way around and I tucked. I'm just saying.
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5G have more room.
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Originally Posted by BLACKonBLACK98
i'm really wondering if you will be low enough to tuck or should just go for a nice flush fitment. for a 4g to tuck 19s you have to be very low.
I'm on coilovers, I should be able to lower 3inches and more, but I would be satisfied with a flush fitment.

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Old May 7, 2008 | 09:22 AM
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well for flush my reccomendation is 8.5/9.5 +35mm. coilovers (especially single tap) will probably not get you so low that i would go tuck. some people consider tucking tires tucked but i say you have to be covering a couple inches of wheel. thats not gonna happen.

i would say roll a flush 18 or 19, roll your fenders and run whatever stretch you might need for clearance.
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just though id mention i have some 19x8.5/9.5 +35mm mrr hr2 i will be selling as soon as my new wheels show up.



bought for out of the box flushness.
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Would +45mm be overkill on the rears for 19/9.5?
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well for flush my reccomendation is 8.5/9.5 +35mm. coilovers (especially single tap) will probably not get you so low that i would go tuck. some people consider tucking tires tucked but i say you have to be covering a couple inches of wheel. thats not gonna happen.

i would say roll a flush 18 or 19, roll your fenders and run whatever stretch you might need for clearance.
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