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Old 08-25-2008, 09:16 AM
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Wheel Spacer question

What size spacers are safe to run with the stock wheels studs on a 4th gen? Please let me know your experience with different thickness spacers. Also where is the best place to purchase spacers.

The reason I am asking is because I have a set of wheels that I bought under the impression that they were +35 when in fact they are +43. So now I am debating if there is a safe way I can run them on my car.
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hubcentric 5mm or less? I think at +43, you're better off getting 10-15mm spacers+longer studs.
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Originally Posted by IHAVEA2KMAXIMA
hubcentric 5mm or less? I think at +43, you're better off getting 10-15mm spacers+longer studs.

I guess I do not understand what you are asking. I don't know the center bore of the wheels but I am guessing I would probably need a centering ring. Also the wheels are 9"s wide so I don't know if I want to space them out that far but, I am possibly interested in pushing them out 5-10mm. They would be drag race only and only in the front. If I go as much as 15 mm I am guessing I would need some fender processing.
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Any pictures of the current setup right now?
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Originally Posted by IHAVEA2KMAXIMA
Any pictures of the current setup right now?
what do you want pictures of? The wheel is 17x9 with a +43 offset.
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you need extended studs on any spacer. the higher quality brands include them. buy hubcentric 66.1 spacers and centering rings aren't needed.
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Originally Posted by BLACKonBLACK98
you need extended studs on any spacer.
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Originally Posted by BLACKonBLACK98
you need extended studs on any spacer. the higher quality brands include them. buy hubcentric 66.1 spacers and centering rings aren't needed.
Do you know of a decent place to get them? Or should I just google?
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http://forums.maxima.org/group-deals...ach-makes.html
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I got my Eibach spacers at www.ultrarev.com
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Originally Posted by z32drifter
I got my Eibach spacers at www.ultrarev.com

What size wheels/tires do you have and what size spacers are you running up front? How much is your car lowered? Have you done any fender processing?
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i pretty much always buy out of the sponsors/gd section. i believe i got my h&r spacers from importrp.
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Originally Posted by BLACKonBLACK98
i pretty much always buy out of the sponsors/gd section. i believe i got my h&r spacers from importrp.
sounds good. can you tell me about the fitment you are running...pretty much the same thing I asked the guy above ^^
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i heard the difference in width between the front and rear wheels on a 4th gen is 10mm..

is that correct?

so all i would need is a set of two (2) 10mm wheel spacers, and my back wheels would sit out as much as my fronts?


how do extended lugs work?

is it actually a new set of lugs you bolt onto the OEM ones? or do you remove the OEM ones and mount longer ones?


also, i dont seem to be able to find 10mm spacers for the 4th gen. there is some confusion in the GD section about whether the 350z ones will fit on the 4th gen (bc the 350z has a 10mm spacer)
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^^ I have actually heard and seen two types. There are spacers that just go between the rim and the rotor and then bolts the same way from the rim, OR spacers with studs, that bolts unto the rotor first then those bolt unto the rim. I would some for my back wheels.
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yea i used to have a set of the 5mms that just slip in between the wheel and rotor, but i decided i wanted a more pronounced extension.


and by the way darron after 2 grand and 6 months my car IS FINALLY FIXED



you know what the problem was???....

kenny used WAY too much RTV on the spacerkit.
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Originally Posted by cardana24
sounds good. can you tell me about the fitment you are running...pretty much the same thing I asked the guy above ^^
my specs won't help too much due to the amount of lowering; haven't measured it but i would say 6" at the very, very least. 19x8.5 +38 in the front with a 25mm spacer.

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how do extended lugs work?

is it actually a new set of lugs you bolt onto the OEM ones? or do you remove the OEM ones and mount longer ones?
there are 2 types of spacers:



these are the extanded lug type. the lugs (not shown but included in some sets) replace your oem lugs.



these are the adapter type. they bolt on to your existing lugs and have an offset set of lugs to bolt your wheels onto. these are generally 25mm+ sizes.

also, i dont seem to be able to find 10mm spacers for the 4th gen. there is some confusion in the GD section about whether the 350z ones will fit on the 4th gen (bc the 350z has a 10mm spacer)
there should be no confusion. any 5x114.3, 66.1 hubcentric spacer should work. h&r and ichiba have maxima specific applications in a wider variety of sizes than eibach.

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no spacer is safe to run with stock studs. i've ran a 5mm and 7mm up front before with stock studs and never had any problems, but i always felt uneasy due to the fact that there wasnt as much threading the lugnut had on that stud. i've also used a 15mm and 25mm H&R spacers in the rears but those came with extended studs. the 15mm came with extended studs that needed to replace the oe studs. the 25mm had pre existing studs pressed in but mounted to the oe studs. either one works fine. just make sure the studs are 100% pressed in before you drive around.

for obtaining spacers, you can either:
-PM AuTo_MaX_95 for H&R spacers.
-www.ichibausa.com
-www.optauto.com

350z hub size is 73.1 so it would NOT be hubcentric on our cars. it would fit, but the maxima hub size is 66.1. do made sure you keep that in mind. i think they make hub ring adapters where you can fit a larger bore to a smaller bore wheel. not sure if it will work with spacers as well.
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Originally Posted by Mr****s95SE
350z hub size is 73.1 so it would NOT be hubcentric on our cars.
you sure about that? everything i've ever read said 66.1.
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Originally Posted by BLACKonBLACK98
you sure about that? everything i've ever read said 66.1.
hmm. i must have read wrong then. last i saw, i was checking out wheels and 350z specific wheels specified a 73.1 hub bore.
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Originally Posted by cardana24
What size wheels/tires do you have and what size spacers are you running up front? How much is your car lowered? Have you done any fender processing?
I'm not running spacers on the Maxima, they are on my Z32. What size tire are you wanting to run?? The 9 +35 you were shooting for should work fine with 255/40s. The shots in my sig are 17x9 +34 with 255/40 race tires, no issues (I'm on S-techs) They do not stay under the fender with these offsets. I would test fit with tires before looking at spacers. You should clear the struts fine, I fitted a 17x10 +35 with a 275 race tire and did not hit the strut.


Your 9 +43 should have an extra 5mm of space on the inside, should also bring the tire under the fender (21mm less on the outside) then think of a spacer for the rear (just for looks) 10mm max.

Here is a 9 +34 with a 275/40


crappy pic 9 +34 with 255/40

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Thanks for the good info. I test fitted the set up I have with 275/40 drag radials (which are coming off) and they hit the struts. I am worried that the +43 offset is too high to run a decent sized tire, and also the reason I was going for a +35 is for BBK clearance. I am going to be putting J30 calipers on soon and I want to make sure my wheel set up can clear that too..
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how hard is it to replace your OEM lugs?
is it something you can do yourself, or should it be done by a professional (seeing as how its a pretty big safety issue)?


also, is there any sort of negative aspect to putting a 25mm spacer on your back two wheels?
does it wear out the bearings quicker (because they have more stress than they are used to) or does it cause any other part to fail quicker than it would as stock?


basically, i just want my rear two wheels to sit evenly with my front two. from what ive read via the search feature, that difference on 4th gens is 10mm.
is that correct?
seems like its more, but i dont want to go dropping 150 bux on an item that wont do what i expect from it
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Originally Posted by cardana24
... also the reason I was going for a +35 is for BBK clearance. I am going to be putting J30 calipers on soon and I want to make sure my wheel set up can clear that too..
one of the advantages of the j30/g50 caliper setup is that they don't require the offset clearance of say a z32 setup or am bbk. i temporarly mounted an oem altima 17x7.5 +45 over my j30 setup.

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Originally Posted by ROCKART
how hard is it to replace your OEM lugs?
is it something you can do yourself, or should it be done by a professional (seeing as how its a pretty big safety issue)?
It is not too hard a process, but it requires a "press" piece for the lugs. Basically, you remove wheel rotor etc, then just hammer the old stud out, put thle new one in and "press" it in with the tool which just uses the threads on the new stud to pull it through the hub. Repeat 4 times and voila. Check to make sure the stud is all the way in, but really seeing as how you're going to use it, if a stud fails or falls off due to "installation error," something went horribly wrong. There is not much you can do wrong on this installation.

also, is there any sort of negative aspect to putting a 25mm spacer on your back two wheels?
does it wear out the bearings quicker
Yes.

basically, i just want my rear two wheels to sit evenly with my front two. from what ive read via the search feature, that difference on 4th gens is 10mm.
is that correct?
You already said that.

It depends on how much front camber you're running etc. But 10mm is a good general estimate. The difference is mostly due to the narrower track in the rear, but it also involves the fender-to-fender width.
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^^ post 21.... we should just sticky Z32drifters pics you know.
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Originally Posted by QNO_A32
^^ post 21.... we should just sticky Z32drifters pics you know.

yep pulling the studs through is easy. if you dont have the tool you could use a wrench or a nut but its not recomended i guess. just make sure the stud is square and hold on to thathub
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