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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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How Do I Advance My Timing?

i'VE GOT AN 01 AND WANT TO ADVANCE MY TIMING ?HOW? can you all help me? THANKS
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 09:32 AM
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1) go to Nissan dealer
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4) tell him to use Consult 2 to advance timing to 17 degrees.
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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what he said...paid $40 to get mine done
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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OK, the tech at Nissan said it will not work because the ecu will re-set itself. Is he a dumbass and I just need another Nissan stealership, or does he know something?
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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Or just type everything in caps, including your nick. Your car will eventually advance its timing to 17 degrees.
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 03:04 PM
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Or just type everything in caps, including your nick. Your car will eventually advance its timing to 17 degrees.
???WHAT???
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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Tell him to try it anyway ..make him a bet...and if it resets you pay him, if not, dont.
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Pull your crown out two clicks and turn it till the hands move forward...
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OK, the tech at Nissan said it will not work because the ecu will re-set itself. Is he a dumbass and I just need another Nissan stealership, or does he know something?
He is correct, but only for 4th gens. 5th gens ECU will hold the change until changed back using a CONSULT II. Most Nissan techs don't know much, and you need to educate them. We actually brought our own instructions on how to do it using the CONSULT....the tech that did ours had no idea how to do it until we showed him
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 07:00 AM
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What exactly will advancing the timing do for the car?
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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What exactly will advancing the timing do for the car?
Gives you more low-end grunt. The only major drawback is that you'll need to stick to strickly premium gas.
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 09:12 AM
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I had the timing advance done on my 2000 and again on my 03. When the local dealership did it on my 2000, they told me the same thing, that the ECU would not hold it in memory and I proved them wrong by having them do it on my car. The first time they did it for free and it took about 5 minutes.

I went back with my 2003, hoping they would do it free, but they did charge me $37.50, which was a 1/2 hour of service time. It does give you a jump off the line, more low end power but you will want to run premium fuel or your car may develop a "pinging" issue.
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I just got my timing advanced at Maxus.
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
He is correct, but only for 4th gens. 5th gens ECU will hold the change until changed back using a CONSULT II. Most Nissan techs don't know much, and you need to educate them. We actually brought our own instructions on how to do it using the CONSULT....the tech that did ours had no idea how to do it until we showed him
Do you happen to have the 2000 timing advance instrucions for the consult II available?
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Hey I would like the instuctions for a 01 if anyone has, so i can get it done, again a stealership told me they couldnt,
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1. donate
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by NEED2BFAST
???WHAT???

hahahaha yep..lost me there too
Old Jun 8, 2006 | 06:40 AM
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irish44j and blackbirdvq get the credit for this, I,m just telling you what they told me: hook-up consult 2 to your car, before you do anything, check for stored codes in the ECU, if there is nothing, reset it and then go to ENGINE, then work support mode, there is a timing adjustment mode in there. once you advance it, click SAVE and exit out of timing mode. Then do idle learn procedure in work support mode. adjust idle to about 700rpms if you are a manual 650for an automatic. timing advance for our cars is: 17deg on the 00, 18deg on the 01 (IIRC), and 20 on the 02-03. It will "stick" and won't change back, that only happens on the 4th gens. Do not hold me responsible if you F-up your car. All this info was kindly given to me, or I found it in different threads. GOOD LUCK!!!
Old Jun 8, 2006 | 08:08 AM
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Hey guys just making sure!!! What's the timing advance for 5.5gen maximas, I heard it was still 17!!? Is that right?
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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i pretty sure that with the 3.0s you could advance the timing if you have the greddy emanage. I heard you could also raise the rev limit too.

with the 3.5s you need the consult-II
Old Jun 9, 2006 | 08:22 AM
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From What I Have Researched, The Only Way To Advance Timing Is Thru Consult 2. I'm Headed To Nissan Now And I'm Going To Ask Them To Raise The Rev Limiter And Bypass The Governer When They Advance The Timing. I'll Let You Know How It Turns Out.
Old Jun 9, 2006 | 09:03 AM
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Maybe you can throw in some questions about intakes and seafoam while you're at it.
Old Jun 9, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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O.K. Nissan advanced the timing and reset the idle. They could not bump-up the rev limiter or eliminate or alter that damn governor. The tech also re-set the learning mode, which as he explained, since the car learned it's fuel/air curve by my wife driving it, should make a huge difference. I only was able to drive about 5mi from Nissan, but yeah it made a huge difference!!!
Old Jun 9, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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this is only 2 degrees which is nothing...I had it done and noticed a big difference in throttle response more than anything but it's been proven that it only makes a difference at partial throttle (that's to say less than WOT)...since the ecu uses it's own IG timing map once you go WOT...whereas the advance you are doing with the consult II is simply adjusting the non WOT maps...
Old Jun 9, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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does anyone own Consult II? I think motorolla makes it using TI chips.. Or Nissan is the only place you can find one???
Old Jun 9, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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6spd_Hayes did mine also at Maxus using a program called Cipher. I noticed a definent improvement in throttle response. He changed it from 15 to 17 and took about 2 minutes. He said the software and cable cost $400.
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
He is correct, but only for 4th gens. 5th gens ECU will hold the change until changed back using a CONSULT II. Most Nissan techs don't know much, and you need to educate them. We actually brought our own instructions on how to do it using the CONSULT....the tech that did ours had no idea how to do it until we showed him
Are there any bad side effects to running the car at these settings( 17 deg advance @ 650 rpm idle), other than having to tank up using premium?
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 08:01 AM
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Is this a good thing to do if you're going to be supercharged, or is this for N/A max's only?
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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Is this a good thing to do if you're going to be supercharged, or is this for N/A max's only?
Boost and timing usually dont mix well, if anything u would need to retard timing as boost rises IIRC. My timing advance cost me $0 at the dealership.
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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guys....2 degrees of advance is not much at all...so don't worry about doing it...if you think about it, there are guys on here running 8-10 degrees of advance with smt-6 and when they get the emanage ultimate working, I am sure they will be pushing even more...not to mention this would be timing advance under WOT....unlike the consult II advance which only effects the non-WOT maps...
Old Jun 12, 2006 | 03:01 AM
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ok so let me get this straight 17 for 5 gen so what for 5.5 gen someone said 20 but isnt that a little high?
Old Jun 12, 2006 | 03:13 AM
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ok so let me get this straight 17 for 5 gen so what for 5.5 gen someone said 20 but isnt that a little high?
I went to 17 on my 5.5.
Old Jun 21, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
He is correct, but only for 4th gens. 5th gens ECU will hold the change until changed back using a CONSULT II. Most Nissan techs don't know much, and you need to educate them. We actually brought our own instructions on how to do it using the CONSULT....the tech that did ours had no idea how to do it until we showed him
Will removing the battery connectors reset the ecu to its base timing? I had mine advanced using Consult II and recently disconnected my posts to clean these out.

IMO it will not since the settings have already been saved. Just need to confirm.

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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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Will removing the battery connectors reset the ecu to its base timing? I had mine advanced using Consult II and recently disconnected my posts to clean these out.

IMO it will not since the settings have already been saved. Just need to confirm.

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disconnect as many times as you like. it will not revert back to stock. you would have to reuse the consult 2 to set it back.
Old Jun 21, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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disconnect as many times as you like. it will not revert back to stock. you would have to reuse the consult 2 to set it back.

As soon as you find someone to advance it for you... FTL.
Old Jun 21, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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As soon as you find someone to advance it for you... FTL.
try my method. use yellow pages to find local nissan/infiniti specific shops. i had one about 3 miles from where i live that purchased a consult 2 through a dealer and was more than happy to let me use it. i think i gave them 25 bucks and they let me pull it into their bay and just play around with it. might not work in every case but worth a try.
Old Jun 21, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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has any one gone back and checked what there timing was set at after lets say a week of normal driving (multiple ignition cycles)? this is for those that have had it done on a 5.5
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try my method. use yellow pages to find local nissan/infiniti specific shops. i had one about 3 miles from where i live that purchased a consult 2 through a dealer and was more than happy to let me use it. i think i gave them 25 bucks and they let me pull it into their bay and just play around with it. might not work in every case but worth a try.
Where did you buy the consult 2 and how much did they want for it?



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