guys remember bone stock nothing at all done...

 

thanks.. so what do run on an avg? stock

 

14.6 bone stock around 75-80 degrees 400ft elev track.

 

I'd say the average is 14.9-15.1 for an average of all drivers.

 

My girls ran 15.1 @ 91mph bone stock. However, some dumb gas station attendant put about 4 gallons of 87 in it, so we had to put some octane booster in it. It was also about 90* and very humid out. This was with no changes in tire pressure and the spare & jack removed.

 

The track I've geen going to has had both Alty 3.5's, I35's and Max auto's running appx 15.1's. 460ft elevation.

With Eibachs, RSB, FSTB upgrades, I've hit 14.908 w/2.34 60' (66 degrees) and 14.924 w/2.20 60' (40 degrees)....

Horrible traction

 

is traction a huge issue on a auto maxima?

 

In my girls it wasn't, but we were at Norwalk and that track is sticky as hell. I think I pulled a 2.25 60' with brake-tq'ing to like 1800. With better weather it probably would have ran 14.7's easy.

 

Err.. yes. If I floor my Max from a standstill, I spin the tires real bad and get crappy times. Going part way on the gas and then flooring once I'm moving helps a lot.

 

last time I went the track was real sticky and I hit a 2.200 60' time (once). traction was not an issue. The time before that though I could not get below 2.4 seconds for the 60' (track was not sticky). Get a feel for the track, and then being stock you could pull around 14.9.
When I went the first time there was a kid in a 2002 SE auto that was getting 14.9xx as a best and consistantly running 15.0xx. He also had new tires (not potenza's) so he was getting better traction that I

 

There was a dude on altima.net who got a best of 14.42 stock in his v6 auto alty

so i think a max prolly can do that, if not better with ur 15hp advantage
more of an extreme case tho

 

Go link?

Are you sure that was "fully stock" and not "stock with just an intake" or something?

BTW, the Max only has a 15HP advantage on paper. They both dyno the same.

 

I believe an auto in cool weather can hit a 14.4 bone stock. I want too return mine too stock and run it in 40 degree weather too see what it will do. A 14.6 in 80 degree weather makes me think 14.4's are possible in my car stock.

 

If you ran a 14.6 in 80 degree weather then it would definitely have a 14.4 in it in cooler weather as long as you can still hookup on the launch.

 

so if I ran on pilot sport's would I still be considered bone stock

 

Pilot sports... hmm... that'd be nice I was having traction issues the first time I went to the drags, since the track was colder. Last time tho i could floor it immediatly and not even spin the tires (hence the 2.2 60' times) but in colder weather with sticky tires, 14.5 or so is definatly attainable stock, maybe better!

 

not sure if my car has more low end than usual but I hit quite a few 2.1's on the stock potenzas when I was completly stock except H&R's. I have never been able too gun it off the line either except on slicks which produce 2.0 60's

 

I guess that would be "stock", not "bone stock"

 

Wish I could hit the tracks again - pretty sure I could hit 2.1's... last time i was gettin 2.20x so that's close You lower your pressure in the front to get good 60' times? I think I got slightly better times when I kept my regular 32 PSI...

 

I have never lowered the tire pressure for street tires. My best 60' on the stock potenzas was 2.13 wheel hopping on a 40 degree night . I still have the slip hanging around somewhere. My only mod at that time was the injen intake.

 

The day I bought my Max, I was running 14.50's-14.60's all night. My best was 14.53@94mph. Started at 17 miles - truly stone stock. With a K&N filter and a ghetto cat-back, I ran a 14.31@97.11.

 

^^^

those r some good times
you ran your car HARD w/ out breaking it in?

any specific techinque your using?
any tire changes or gutting?

i see a high 13second pass with maybe a ypipe and pulley

 

looks like someone else got a wednesday car besides me

 

I thought I was doin good at 14.66! Very impressive...course I havent run in anything under 80% humidity and 75 degrees out, so maybe that has somethin to do with it! Hafta hit up the track in 40 degree weather... That must be nice. Also, you two "wednesday cars" - been draggin a lot? Experience definatly makes a difference as I found out my 2nd time to the track. Someday I'll be in the low 14s tho

 

I just started last year and my first every trip too the track I nailed off a 14.6 @ 93 bone stock. Last Sunday I managed a 14.2 @ 97 with 2.18 60' in 75 degree weather, not sure about the humidity but ti rained right before and some during the event. Mods for that run were GAB,Y,E, and on my 18" wheels with full interior.

 

This past weekend, I could not even dip into the 14's. Best was 15.0@92 IDBL. Track temps started in the high 70's-low 80's with 70%+ humidity. As the night progressed, temperature dropped 10 deg but humidity rose to 90%. Track was in sad shape too and I could not get any traction with my RE92's @ 41k miles...

Pretty depressing

 

What's up bud, it's Cullen(white 96 max) from the nico meet.
I thought your times were decent but by your frustration on sat. i knew you ran better last time.

Audtatious is right, the track was horrid but i was running on 215/60 hr 16 junkyard tires so i could not really complain about traction lol. Looking forward to the next meet

 

Yeah, I was really frustrated. With the I/E I expected to pull more on the topend than I did. In fact, I was slower on the topend than the stock system

 

Something just doesn't seem right with your car b/c with your mods in those temps sould be at least 94. I know your times wont be the best b/c of traction but your trap speeds should be affected that much.

I hit up the track one time and I pull no worse then 2.29 every time I run but nothing better than a 2.4 was coming out that day. I still managed too trap 96 with removed filter and UDP.

 

blubyu2k2 - you remove interior stuff to dip into low 14's? It sounds like ya got a factory freak I know I could hit 14.5xx with my current setup, just need a lil more practice. Also - when I get to around the 1000' mark my engine "cuts out" for a brief moment on 60% of my runs... you have this ever?? Its strange and it affects my trap speed. I managed to hit 95.8 mph w/o the "cut out" and only 94.5 or so when it does cut out. Just wondering what this might be and if you have it (guessing not based on your trap speeds)

 

I hit a 14.2 @ 96 on my 18's last sunday in 75 degree weather with high humidity b/c of rain. My mods were GAB, UDP, Y pipe, and exhaust. I ran with full interior seats, spare, jack and everything present while making the runs. My top end was suffering bad b/c of the larger wheels and terrible heat soak. My 1/8 mile times were 9.1-9.2 @ 78mph that day.

I am going back tomorrow and letting my car cool totally before making a pass. I want a 14.0 or better and I know its within reach if the car is cooled down.

I plan too run stripped interior and a few more tricks once winter weather passes through and tip off a 13.5 or maybe better on slicks

 

Wish I could see ya run the 1/4... not sure how I can dip down into the lower 14s since I was doin consistant 14.6xx last time at the track. Took out my seat too Oh well, maybe a few more mods would do the trick!

 

pm me about what you mean on engine cuts out....If you mean rpms lag for a split second at around 4500 I think I have a fix for you

 

Blu, My 14.9 came with a GAB style setup since I had removed my air filter "holder" to allow more air in. This resulted in a 93mph trap.

Since I am now spinning tires even worse than before, yet still getting a 2.27 60' (not that bad considering), I am assuming I should be able to lower my 1/4 time while raising my trap speed by getting an appropriate launch. Of course, this won't happen with the RE92's.

I have noticed the tranny, in "3", is kinda slow at shifting into 3rd gear and is possibly shifting too soon. Anyone else having this problem? I should have disconnected the sensor for the tranny for firmer shifts, but I was only able to get 3 runs in due to the large number of peeps there.

 

I hold my tranny in 2nd till redline (sometimes goes past redling to shift to 3rd.. oops!) but otherwise, havent had a problem shiftin into 3rd. Only get a little lag in 3rd

 

Matt does have a Wednesday car - it's sick quick.

My only perf mod in my Auto is an intake and the best run I've had is a 14.7 (Full interior). Last night I was 14.8 to 15.1 (bad night). I had .58 r/t's and 2.21 60' - just couldn't get it down the track quicker.
Trapped around 93 I think.

 

I ran 14.8x's absolutely bone stock with my car full of all kinds of regular work week stuff (drove straight from work to the track). Still had 3/4 tank of gas as well. When I actually prepped the car, I ran 14.66 (no spare/jack, 1/2 tank gas). The potential to run mid 14's is there in stock trim (with weight savings applied). This is also with stock 17" GLE wheels and crappy Turanza tires.

 

Wish I could get to a track again once the cooler weather comes around. Might be able to with some guys down here at school, but I dunno... I want 14.5xx now! haha never satisfied with previous times

 

ga2000

You seemed to be too obsessed with knowing (or getting) your 04 Max auto to run faster than the 02/03 Max's.

Don't worry so much about that.
On paper the 04's are a bit slower.
They weigh 200 pounds more have bigger/heavier wheels and only marginal claimed power increases.

You did get a 14.66 with your car, that's about where the 02/03's are at, some getting into the 14.5's.

Go get your car dynoed.
Track times really don't prove anything. They are just as much about the driver's ability as the car's ability.

So, what it comes down to is this:

Get your car dynoed on at least 2 different occasions on two different days.
Then you can see if it's putting down any measurable and meaningful power than the 02/03's

Then you can see what it's true power to weight is.
If it doesn't better the power to weight of what the 02/03 cars are putting down, you need to accept the fact the 04's are a bit slower with equal drivers in identical conditions.

I don't think Nissan was attempting to make the 04's faster than the 02/03's.
If they were, they wouldn't of made the 04's so fat.
They would have also tuned it for say...270+ hp
and 265+ Tq
But we all know with the G35 Sedan rated at 260/260 the Max won't upstage it in the power department.

Oh, and to give you an idea of how much fudging I think is going on with the power claims of all the cars carrying the 3.5 liter Vq.

A couple guys tested their G35 Coupe and 350z at the Dyno Shop and got the following:

G35 Coupe 6MT
231.9 @ 6200 Hp
222.9 @ 4660 Tq

350Z 6MT
229.5 @ 6320 Hp
213.3 @ 4870 Tq

They were both stock. And as you can see the in this case, the G35 Coupe put down more power than the 350Z

I'd say in REALITY, all the 3.5 VQ cars are actually within 15-20 hp and 10-15 lbs-ft of torque of one another. All the times and power to weight numbers are too close to really have a 40+ hp difference between the Altima and 350Z