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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 01:30 PM
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Mazda Millenia wheels (15X6)

Which year are the 9-10 pound millenia wheels that would fit on my max (95 5-speed)? And for how much/where could I get 'em?

Also, would 22X15X8 M/T slicks fit on them? (Yeah, 8" might be a bit wide for 6" wide rims...)
Old Aug 31, 2004 | 06:34 PM
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I can't remeber the year, but the ones you want are the 9 poke kind. I paid about $100 for two of them off ebay but they are kinda hard to find.

I think you may have a hard time getting that 8" wide slick to fit. I don't think it's possible.
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At least one guy has tried unsuccessfully to mount MT 22x15x8s on millenia wheels. Jime is his name and hes one of the most hardcore drag racers on this board so believe me, he tried his hardest but couldnt get it to work. I know we talked about gearing before so I don't know if you are locking yourself into the 22x15x8 MTs to get your desired gearing, but if not, M&H Racemaster makes a 23.5x15x7.5" slick which will fit on 6" millenia wheels, and of course the 26x15x6" slick will fit on the 6" wheel. That's what I ran before but i wouldn't suggest that slick for a stock or near stock 4th gen it's probably much too tall.

The year those wheels come off of is the 95-96 millenia (they came on the base model but i dont know if they were available on the millenia S), they are the 9 spoke models and weigh 11.5lbs. the 12 spoke models are available on the millenia S of those years and were also pretty light at 12.5lbs.
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Why doesn't anyone use them for daily driving on all 4s? They don't look that bad (personally, I don't care that they're 15", I'm more all go, no show - part of the reason I bought a maxima is that it's a sleeper - the other is that it's ****ing fast for a FWD, and reliable).

They fit for sure and I can get them brand new for 70.81$ canadian each.

As for the tires, I'm looking at 23.0X15.0X7.3 M&H slicks. They're approved for 6.0" rims so I'm sure they fit and are only 131 US$ each.

As for street tires, I'm getting either 205 50 R15 (23.13" tall) or 195 50 R15 (22.74" tall) tires. Which would be better? I assume 205 would get more traction since they're wider, but 195 would get better gearing and only 10mm (about 0.4") thinner.

Nealoc187:

BTW, I tried 2 smaller spare tires from other cars in front to see how the acceleration improved. It did, alot. Unfortunately, there was alot of wheel spin (which is normal since they were both REALLY skinny and lightweight spare tires), so I tried something just to test a theory. I took two 20-pound compact metal cubes and tied them above each wheel in the engine bay. 40 pound obviously should slow me down, but it reduced wheel spin greatly.

What do you think? Removing 40 pounds of rotating mass and adding 40 pounds of static weight to reduce spin?
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Why doesn't anyone use them for daily driving on all 4s? They don't look that bad (personally, I don't care that they're 15", I'm more all go, no show - part of the reason I bought a maxima is that it's a sleeper - the other is that it's ****ing fast for a FWD, and reliable).

They fit for sure and I can get them brand new for 70.81$ canadian each.

As for the tires, I'm looking at 23.0X15.0X7.3 M&H slicks. They're approved for 6.0" rims so I'm sure they fit and are only 131 US$ each.

As for street tires, I'm getting either 205 50 R15 (23.13" tall) or 195 50 R15 (22.74" tall) tires. Which would be better? I assume 205 would get more traction since they're wider, but 195 would get better gearing and only 10mm (about 0.4") thinner.

Nealoc187:

BTW, I tried 2 smaller spare tires from other cars in front to see how the acceleration improved. It did, alot. Unfortunately, there was alot of wheel spin (which is normal since they were both REALLY skinny and lightweight spare tires), so I tried something just to test a theory. I took two 20-pound compact metal cubes and tied them above each wheel in the engine bay. 40 pound obviously should slow me down, but it reduced wheel spin greatly.

What do you think? Removing 40 pounds of rotating mass and adding 40 pounds of static weight to reduce spin?

Mike replied to another post, I thought it was yours but perhaps it was to someone else saying that they wont fit on all 4 corners and that's the truth, they wont. This combined with the fact that they really are unbelieveably ugly and not the proper offset for the car is why no one uses them for daily driving.

It is a common misconception that lighter wheels mean more wheelspin, that is absolutely not true. The reason you were spinning your tires was because they are spare tires which are crap compound and very skinny and have the contact patch of a motorcycle tire, not because they are light. Adding 40lbs of dead weight to your car to drag race?

As for your street tires I don't think it really matters, you really are splitting hairs and the difference will be unnoticeable in your 1/4 mile times.
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wait a min he was using doughnut tires? hahaha thats awsome why the heck would anyone do that thats funny stuff
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Where can you get those M&H Slicks for 131 bucks? Can you fill me in, I'm looking for a pair.

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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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yea fill nick in man i wanna watch him run a low low low 14 sec pass on the 28th hey it was fun racing him until he shifted into second and smoked the s*it outta me btw man when i raced you your car sounded supercharged it was whistling alot louder than anyone elses that i heard it was weird i was like wtf it was awsome...like deep as heck causea the intake but yet made the whistling noise really really loud like i could hear it with my windows shut like it was my car, though obviously youre not s/c it sounded mean as hel* -ryan
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Yeah I could really use some ASAP, I'm hoping to *maybe* hit a 13.9 with some slicks on and maybe a little weight reduction. I am hoping to get a 1.8 60' with slicks versus my best 60' of 2.2 on winter tires. That will hopefully bring my 14.4 to a 14.0, and with a little weight reduction I am hoping to sneek into the 13's.

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damn right 13.9 here u come and 15.5 here i come lol
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Originally Posted by 95CustomMaxima
Yeah I could really use some ASAP, I'm hoping to *maybe* hit a 13.9 with some slicks on and maybe a little weight reduction. I am hoping to get a 1.8 60' with slicks versus my best 60' of 2.2 on winter tires. That will hopefully bring my 14.4 to a 14.0, and with a little weight reduction I am hoping to sneek into the 13's.

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If my car is running right, me and you may have some good runs agianst each other. I just need to pull a 2.0x on my drag radials. Last time out I was just trying to get a good look at my trap speed so I wasn't launching real hard and was able to pull 2.15's on the DR's.
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>>Mike replied to another post, I thought it was yours but perhaps it was to someone else saying that they wont fit on all 4 corners and that's the truth, they wont.<<

So they fit in front but not in the rear? Wtf?

What light, yet strong and relatively cheap wheels would you recommend for daily driving and drag?
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Originally Posted by JClaw
>>Mike replied to another post, I thought it was yours but perhaps it was to someone else saying that they wont fit on all 4 corners and that's the truth, they wont.<<

So they fit in front but not in the rear? Wtf?

What light, yet strong and relatively cheap wheels would you recommend for daily driving and drag?
They don't fit on the rear. It's because of the center bore if I remember correctly. I tired putting Neal's Millenia rims on the rear of my car and millenia rims on the front. It's is something that is fixable with some time and a dremel tool though. I believe Jime modified them to fit.

But once again, they look really goofy and I in no way would want to run them on a daily basis and I am not one that is into show more than go. I run 15's myself, but those millenia rims just look to GD goofy.
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Mike, I will look forward to that. Anychance you wanna let me use your D/R's for a run or 2? I really would like to see what I can pull with these mods right now.

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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 95CustomMaxima
Mike, I will look forward to that. Anychance you wanna let me use your D/R's for a run or 2? I really would like to see what I can pull with these mods right now.

-Nick

If I get enough runs in and hit the times I am looking for then I don't mind letting you use them. I am not going to drive out there on them again, like i did last time, so I will have to take them off anyhow.
Old Sep 13, 2004 | 05:56 PM
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Still stands, mike: what light, yet strong and relatively cheap wheels would you recommend for daily driving + strip instead of millenia wheels?

And for the hell of it - search thing doesn't work - I remember an old thread where someone posted pictures of millenia wheels but can't find 'em... anyone got some pics? Not that I don't trust your judgement, but I just want to make sure they really look like **** before I dump the idea altogether (since I could get 'em new real cheap and that I have access to a garage and welding/cutting tools etc. so fixing it to work might not be that big a deal. I mean we tore out the entire frame out of a '73 firebird and got a custom 2X3 one back in as well as extending the stock wheel wells 4" still using the stock remains).
Old Sep 13, 2004 | 06:06 PM
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Are these the 11-pound ones?

http://www.800wheels.com/limages/MA70.jpg

Right? Anyone got a pic of what it looks like on their car? (front only, I assume)
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yes and i dont have any pics
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Right. Is there even a centercap?
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Originally Posted by JClaw
Are these the 11-pound ones?

http://www.800wheels.com/limages/MA70.jpg

Right? Anyone got a pic of what it looks like on their car? (front only, I assume)
Those look like the right ones. Are they OE? Some companies make OE replicas, so there might be a chance they would look the same but no weigh the same. Something to think about if they are not comming off an actual Millenia.

I will look around and see if I can find a pic of my car with them on. You know how inset the stock wheels are on a Maxima...well these will make maxima rims look flush.

I would look into some 15" kosei K1's off TireRack. Cheap, light, strong.
Old Sep 13, 2004 | 06:31 PM
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I'm not getting them from there. Getting them from where we buy the tires/wheels for the garage. Been buying there for 6 years, should be fine. 70canadian each, new, no tax. I'll get only one first to see how it fits and all, and at worse I'll lose 70 bucks.
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JClaw- Where can you get those slicks for $131?

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Originally Posted by 95CustomMaxima
JClaw- Where can you get those slicks for $131?

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You could get DR's for about $220 shipped from TireRack
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That's 131.60 US$ EACH.

https://www.mandhtires.com/

I'm talking about the 7.3/23.0-15 size specifically. My original tires are 20/65/R15 (That's exactly 25.58 in inches). Our final drive ratio is 3.823, so with 23.0" tires you'd have the equivalent of a 4.25 ratio instead. The problem is, you're gonna have to shift into 4th, but I don't know how far you'll get into 4th by the end of the 1/4 mile...

But 131 seems pretty cheap. M/Ts are 159.
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I know I can get D/R's for 220 shipped on tirerack, I was looking at G-Force's. I have now decided I want slicks for better 60' time. Any thoughts?

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Slicks are def better than DRs and at 262 a pair, I'm getting some for next year (really ****ty winters here and the drag season ends late September, early-mid October).
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Are those slicks (23.0/7.3/15) gonna be too short for me you think?

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If you aren't afraid to shift into fourth. I really don't know if the extra acceleration is gonna compensate for the time you lose shifting...
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Well I already have to shift into 4th..I am just wondering how much shorter my gearing will be..Very noticable or not.

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Originally Posted by 95CustomMaxima
Are those slicks (23.0/7.3/15) gonna be too short for me you think?

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if you already have to shift into 4th and are not planning on MEVI and JWT ECU then yes i'd go with that size. if you are planning on getting mevi and jwt ecu then things get more complicated.
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What size would you recommend I get then if I want to eventually go to MEVI and JWT?

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probably the 6x26" size so you don't have to shift into 4th.
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Right? Anyone got a pic of what it looks like on their car? (front only, I assume)


that guy ****ed me off. he was right in the way for every picture.
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Kosei K1 front, Millenia's Rear

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Are there any centercaps for the millenia wheels?

BTW, Jime, are you the guy who tried to fit Millenia wheels in the rear? How hard was it?
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Pretty easy you can see they are on in the pic. Just a little dremelling to fit over the hub.

I haven't seen any center caps either, I bought 4 wheels initially and none came with caps but they must be available and would look much better. I did try and put 22x8x15 M/T slicks but they would not seat with over 100 psi. So I put a set of D/R's on them for a while but traction is very limited compared to slicks if you are putting down any serious power.
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Jime I have a question for you,
I sent you a pm and you havent replied. My question is about the o2simulator you have. I got one wired it up to my rear o2sensor and it still doesnt work. I wired it like this: o2sensor has 3 wires as does the o2simulator. I wired red to red, black to black and white to white. I figured red was positive, black negative, and white signal. I cut the white wire and hooked th o2simulators signal wire to it. I still throw and engine light. I am just wondering if you know which wire is which...Ground, Power, and signal or if you know how to wire it.

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Jime I have a question for you,
I sent you a pm and you havent replied. My question is about the o2simulator you have. I got one wired it up to my rear o2sensor and it still doesnt work. I wired it like this: o2sensor has 3 wires as does the o2simulator. I wired red to red, black to black and white to white. I figured red was positive, black negative, and white signal. I cut the white wire and hooked th o2simulators signal wire to it. I still throw and engine light. I am just wondering if you know which wire is which...Ground, Power, and signal or if you know how to wire it.

Thanks,

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First did you connect between the connector and o2 sensor or before the connector because the wiring is different colors on each side of the connector? I connected to the ecu side of the connector and used the FSM for the colors which will be different for the 4th Gen. My o2's have 4 wires also. I couldn't determine the pinout either for the o2 sensor because its not listed in the FSM and thats why I connected on the other side of the connector.
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I connected it between the o2 sensor and the harness. I noticed the colors were different after the harness, like purple and such. I though you had it wired to your 4th gen before too. Do you happen to know what colors where the ones you spliced into in the ecu?

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I got center caps with mine

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